Newbie with some questions i'm sure you've heard before.

[catzenmouse]

bwadderant,

 Welcome to RWD and Congradulations on your success! I have to  agree with your take on AW. The last one that I had a long term  relationship with spent most of it trying to fix me. I would counter  with why did you want me to begin with if I needed so much fixing?  Usually I would get something about her seeing my "potential". No  matter how it turns out for Elena and I in the future I know positively  that I will NEVER go back to AW again. Why lower your standards when  you have tasted the best?

Ken

[bwaaderant]

Thanks for the welcome, Ken!  These forums have been a great help to me, unfortunately I only discovered this one yesterday.  Someone from another forum sent me the link.

Yes, it pains me to watch American women seeming to ask for the troubled relationships they get.  Or not honoring the relationships they are currently in.  What ever happened to honor, trust, and loyalty?  I don't mean to say that Russian women are perfect in everyway, they are, after all, only human.  But they don't, yet, have the entitlement attitude that American women seem to carry around.

A case in point:  Back in the beginning of November my fiancee was attacked in her stairwell.  The man knocked her down, kicked her in the head and face, and took her purse.  Apparently he would have done far more, but her mother heard the commotion and opened the door to the apartment.  It turned out that a number of other women had been similarly attacked in the area, all were beaten very badly, and two of them died.  What were my fiancee's first words when she regained conciousness?  It wasn't "he hurt me" or "he took my purse", no,  she called my name, over and over.  For the next couple of hours until I was contacted, her biggest worry was not about herself, it was about me.  She was worried that I would be worried, which I was, and more concerned about my welfare than her own. 

To me that spoke volumes and highlighted the differences in attitudes and outlooks between AW's and RW's.

 

 

 

 

[Ste]

To answer the original Q the reason why Russian an FSU women look for a Western man is:

1. For economic reasons

2. other reasons

And mostly the male/female ratio anywhere is 1:1 or thereabouts, all this bollocks about Russia being full of women with no men cos there aren't enough men, is err, bollocks, unless ur looking at 80 yo babushkas, still suffering cos of WW2.

Whatever floats yer boat!

Ste

[BillyB]

 why would a girl put themselves on the website? I'm sure there are men in Russia that are just as good as myself..... why offer yourself to a man you've never met especially one that may be 12 yrs older? Why? Why? Why? I can only come to the conclusion that it is for the money or the potentially better lifestyle it could lead to- as i don't plan on sending her a dime.-jason

Jason,

What's wrong with a woman that wants a better lifestyle? People have mentioned economics as a motivation these women have as if it's some bad thing. Money is not the root of all evil. Women who don't care about advancing their life, have no goals or aspirations, don't care about putting food in their kids mouth or if their kids have a good education, and don't care if their man has any ambitions are trailer trash probably content with living in the slums with a bum. Is that the woman you want?

What you need to worry about is a woman's motives and methods of achieving that better lifestyle. Does she want to use you as a greencard mule? Does she want to use you as a stepping stone into a better life and eventually on to a better man. Is she willing to do her part or does she want something for nothing.

Some women are willing to get an education, get jobs or if they are homemakers, they do their part at home and do it well. If their man lost his job, they'll step up to the plate and work themselves to keep their family strong instead of moving on to a man with more money.  I have great admiration for people who want a better life and will achieve it honorably instead of leeching off another person. If marriage is the way some women will get a better life, some will find it beneath themselves to marry unless they love the man. Figure out the motives of those you want to associate with.

You also ask "why offer yourself to a man you've never met especially one that may be 12 yrs older?" Why ask Why? If she has no problem with your age and you don't then don't let it bother you. I'm 36 and my fiancee is 23 and she filled out her profile the way she wanted without an agency telling her to boost up the age category. I am at the tail end of her max age requirements.  Also, she's good looking, had two marriage proposals from local guys, has two invitations from foreign men to visit them(she thinks it's crazy to visit men in their own country), she makes money about four times the average wage of an Uzbek and she has a visa in her passport to go to Germany. She doesn't need me but she wants me. Why does she want me? I told her I work construction, I'm a normal guy living a normal life, I sent her pictures of myself in my dirty work clothes. I have purposely given myself a handicap and many women won't respond to a guy like me but it has also benefited me in getting rid of materialistic women. All I have left to win a woman over is my personality, my character, and my conduct which happens to suit my fiancee just fine. I have confidence in myself that I didn't need to brag to win a woman over with money or my social status since I am a business owner like you.

I'm not going to tell you to enjoy your younger years as most men would because you could bypass the few gems out that get snatched up pretty quick. But most men here are here because we didn't get it right the first time. We didn't have the brains, the knowledge of distinguishing the gems from the garbage, or we didn't have our act together, or we didn't ask for advice and we were too stubborn to absorb it when receiving it in our younger years. We didn't know what we wanted in life or what we should attain in a woman to match ourselves and we ended up with girls who probably didn't know what they wanted out of life, man and marriage so divorce is the end result. Get your act together and find a woman who's got her act together. Don't settle for less.

[Turboguy]

Well, perhaps I could consider wanting a better lifestyle a bad thing if it involved divorcing a construction worker who made "$ 100,000 a year and drove a new buick and treated her like a princess to go with a brain surgeon that made $ 750,000 and drove a boxter and treated her like he owned her.

The real case is for a lot of the gals the husbands they can find there often can't provide a good living for the women.   A better life style is just having what we consider basic necessities.   Yes there are new Russians who make more than the brain surgeon I talked about in the last paragraph but a lot of the Russian men don't make a lot and want to use as much of what they make to enjoy their life with and are not as concerned about the living standards of their wife and family.   The women sorta hafta look out for themselves, married or single.   Makes for a strong woman when they have to be self suffiecient.

[enigma_julie]

Bruno,

Thanks for the info. I believe I got it fixed. I needed to remove Elena's profile a while ago any ways... So - yeah, if you see any other problems, any info would be appreciated.

Julia

[jasonbr]

you guys are all right... i can't get any girls to take me seriously. One girl that was my age called me a boy.... great.   Maybe i should send out fucking resume's! At least the AW can see me pull up in a bimmer.. christ.

On the internet your age is your bimmer.

[enigma_julie]

Oops. sorry. My previous message was meant to be a PM :huh: Still learning how to use this forum...

Jason,

Well, it might be a bit difficult, you are right, but try to write to girls who are younger then you are. May be 18 - 19? I am sure most of them would be interested in more or less casual relationships and not marriage.  The main problem is that the girls who have some experience in this process tend to look for guys who are at least 30 because they want marriage and stability. The girls who are younger would be happy to get to know a young, self secure guy like yourself. Especially if you are good looking too

Julia

[jasonbr]

18 or 19 is too young

[enigma_julie]

too young for what?

[mischief]

[user=892]enigma_julie[/user] wrote:

too young for what?

LOL ... good question!;)

[Maxx]

[user=892]enigma_julie[/user] wrote:

too young for what?

Not too young for mischief!

[Louie]

Hey bwaaderant, I know how you feel, what happened to me was, the last 3 dates I was on with AW, went like this, and I'm not joking here either,  date #1 after about 35 minutes in our date, things seem to be going well, when she says to me, "you know ALL the good guys are taken" I was just a little taken back and after that date ended didn't consider another. Date#2, after about an hour she says to me, "you know all the good ones are taken" no second date with her, Date #3 after about 10 minutes she says to me "you know all the good guys are taken" I threw a 20 on the bar to pay for the drinks, and walk out in mid sentence with her still yappin away, that was the last AW I ever dated. as I was in my car I sat there for about 5 minutes just dumbfounded at what i was encountering.