The Finer Points of French Grammar and Stubborn Men

[Boethius]

Being French "in your heart" does not mean you are québécois.

 
You did tell me once that it was not Moose Jaw or Swan Lake (been there). 

Work related?  Swan Lake has a hazardous waste disposal.

[Misha]

Work related?  Swan Lake has a hazardous waste disposal.

That is Swan HILLS: http://www.shtc.ca/

[Boethius]

Yes, true.  My bad.

[SANDRO43]

This is a good explanation as to the differences:

Interesting, it sounds somewhat similar to the differences between Afrikaans and modern Dutch.

There's a passing reference (3'00") to a lost work called "Milan de l'art française" or "Milanais de l'art française" (IINM). Any idea what is was about? Curious title, if correct - I could find no results for it in a Google search.

 

[SANDRO43]

Swan Lake has a hazardous waste disposal.

Is that why the Swan died ?

[Misha]

Interesting, it sounds somewhat similar to the differences between Afrikaans and modern Dutch.

There's a passing reference (3'00") to a lost work called "Milan de l'art française" or "Milanais de l'art française" (IINM). Any idea what is was about? Curious title, if correct - I could find no results for it in a Google search.

He said: "Mille ans de langue française" in reference to this book:
http://www.amazon.ca/Mille-ans-langue-française-Histoire/dp/2262022704/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1333751512&sr=1-1-fkmr1

[Boethius]

Is that why the Swan died ?

Don't show me that hack, Sandro.  Do you know Nureyev once dropped her, calling her a cow?
 
Here is the best swan you will ever see.
 


 

 

 

 

 

[SANDRO43]

He said: "Mille ans de langue française" in reference to this book:

Ah, "Mille ans or Mille années" - but then it's not "une grosse ouvrage qui est perdue" or did I mishear that, too?

[SANDRO43]

Don't show me that hack, Sandro. Do you know Nureyev once dropped her, calling her a cow?

Sorry, it was the first dead fowl cow I could find .

[Misha]

Being French "in your heart" does not mean you are québécois.

  My grand-parents, with the exception of those who were Acadian were from Québec and we all speak the same language. I haven't the foggiest what exactly you are trying to imply, likely that real French-speakers are from Québec, but for all practical purposes the language spoken in Québec is my language. So, please be precise, what are YOU trying to imply in your insinuation that I am not Québécois enough to discuss the French language spoken in Canada 

[Misha]

Ah, "Mille ans or Mille années" - but then it's not "une grosse ouvrage qui est perdue" or did I mishear that, too?

You misheard that too, he said "qui est paru" or that has appeared meaning published... Note that "ouvrage" is masculine, so it would be "un gros ouvrage qui est paru" 


See: [size=78%]http://www.le-dictionnaire.com/definition.php?mot=ouvrage[/size]

[Boethius]

please be precise, what are YOU trying to imply in your insinuation that I am not Québécois enough to discuss the French language spoken in Canada.

I never made that insinuation, not even close to it, nor did I comment, directly or indirectly in any manner whatsoever, on your ability to discuss the French language spoken in Canada or elsewhere.

[SANDRO43]

You misheard that too, he said "qui est paru" or that has appeared meaning published... Note that "ouvrage" is masculine, so it would be "un gros ouvrage qui est paru" 

Alright, my French ear is decidedly off - not enough exposure, I guess.

[Misha]

I never made that insinuation, not even close to it, nor did I comment, directly or indirectly in any manner whatsoever, on your ability to discuss the French language spoken in Canada or elsewhere.

Pray tell, then, what exactly is moot in your statement:

Moot in any event, as Misha is not québécois.

[Kokopelli]

i think this link about your question should solve the issue :
http://www.landrystuff.com/creole.htm
And about french from Quebec i think there are more skilled people to answer here. 

Thanks, Patagonie.
Us dumb Americans. 



"To the informed Cajun, the term is considered a demeaning, racial slur like other racist words used against other people and some have been known to correct well-meaning outsiders who use the epithet and "enlighten" those who use it with less than well-meaning intentions!"
 
Enlighten? I love the euphemism. 

[Kokopelli]

What exactly is the difference that you imagine seeing?!? The article you cite highlights that the differences between standard French in Quebec and standard French in France are minimal    English-speakers (and some Italian-speakers) like to imagine that the French spoken in Quebec is so different, but in reality it is much closer to the French standard than the language spoken in many regions of France as is highlighted is this very funny film: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bienvenue_chez_les_Ch'tis. In the film, Picard is being spoken, related to French but largely incomprehensible....

It's hard for me to determine a difference, that is why I said maybe. My French is limited to a cassette series I had 25 years ago. Since I hardly ever used it you can guess my proficiency.
Keep your stick on the ice. 

[Patagonie]

He said: "Mille ans de langue française" in reference to this book:
http://www.amazon.ca/Mille-ans-langue-française-Histoire/dp/2262022704/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1333751512&sr=1-1-fkmr1

you cant thank Misha for the decryption ! 

[SANDRO43]

you cant thank Misha for the decryption ! 

I thought I did but, on looking back, I realise I didn't . Belatedly, merci beaucoup Misha.

[Misha]

I thought I did but, on looking back, I realise I didn't . Belatedly, merci beaucoup Misha.

De rien cher Sandro 

[Patagonie]

Thanks, Patagonie.
Us dumb Americans. 



"To the informed Cajun, the term is considered a demeaning, racial slur like other racist words used against other people and some have been known to correct well-meaning outsiders who use the epithet and "enlighten" those who use it with less than well-meaning intentions!"
 
Enlighten? I love the euphemism. 

We said in french connasse (feminine form) and connard (masculine form)

[Darth_Budda]

France french is different than Canadian french right?

only thing i remember from school is how to say

i do not speak french.

i speak English.

[Misha]

France french is different than Canadian french right?

The grammar is the same, 99% of the vocabulary is the same, but the accent is different and there are expressions and some words that differ. It would be like comparing Australian English and American English...

[Darth_Budda]

Is french widely spoken out side of Quebec?

Most of the Canadians I know are from Montreal and prefer to speak English..
We do get some mainly french speaking Canadians in upstate NY from time to time,
A lot less since 9/11, They have really closed the border up...

When i was a kid their were several places were you could cross with out a customs agent.. We even had some Canadians going to Americans schools because they were closer to the American schools. Their used to even be a bar, half in Canada half in the US... LoL

[Misha]

There are roughly a million French-speakers outside of Quebec, but most speak English as well.