Hello Everyone

[Rednell]

YeahWell < My online name for many years not that means anything. Real Name: Eric

Thought I would start off with saying RWD is a really awesome Forum and community! Glad I found this place.
Searching through, and reading posts here and there since February, lot of really intelligent people here that have a lot of experience, great information, and apparently lot of great humor and personality's

I met a girl in January from Samara RU "Very Beautiful Pictures"after many emails and what I wanted to believe was a beautiful intelligent sweet woman I was talking with via E-mail and on Phone as well, went sour after she rushed into the; my darling I want to come to you and I have visa and passport but I don't have enough for a plane ticket. Now originally I had mentioned few weeks before to her that I wanted to take my first visit to Russia in June of this year, that's all it took for the previous mentioned to occur. She always called me, when I asked for her phone number she said her phone was broke and she had to call from local post office. when I did finally get her address a friend of mine that has business in Moscow did some looking into her and said she is a no good, and let it go! that was my first experience with a woman from Russia.

Round the same time was contacted on separate dating site by another woman in Nizhny Novgorod, Oblast, Russia think I am spelling that right? at any rate it has started heating up more via Email, with this woman seems a bit different although she says; I can give you all the information you ask for but she is afraid to give me her Address and Phone number which I have casually asked for, after she indicated she would like to go to next step from E-mail. I guess my question is where do I go from here?

If she is afraid to give me her info., (Phone number and address) after she talks about how I make her laugh and that she wants to be with me, and she is so glad that we have found each other, etc. statements like that yet wont provide crucial information.

Any Dialog suggestions, or thoughts or perspectives would be great.

[Faux Pas]

Hi Rednell and welcome to RWD!

First, where are you finding these women? The second seems as flaky as the first from your limited info. Your next step from email is Skype and telephone. Do not accept any excuses as to why they cannot communicate with either. She doesn't live in a hut in Botswanna. She has a phone and if she is part of the 90% of the female population in Russia she has access to internet and Skype. If she was scared of you, she wouldn't be communicating by email now.

Read up here guy. There's lots for you to learn.

 

[Spoon]

Hi Rednell, 

Agree with Faux Pas, if she is reluctant to give you her phone number (especially if you offer yours also) then it would be an 'orange flag'. She may have legitimate reasons, but if she is seriously looking, then she should be prepared to step it up to the next level (being phone calls/skype)

What website are you searching through if you don't mind me asking? IMO one week is plenty enough time for emailing each other (the initial 'feeling out' stage) I knew my (now) Wife was serious when I said I wanted to call her and asked for her phone number and she wrote back "Yes, it is time" and gave me her number. This is how a serious Woman acts.

Enjoy the forum, a wealth of experience and information here

[Muzh]

   Rednell Eric.
 
Not much to add.
 
Just keep sharing with us what you can and most probably we'll point you in the right direction.
 
Good luck.

[Daveman]

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If she is afraid to give me her info., (Phone number and address) after she talks about how I make her laugh and that she wants to be with me, and she is so glad that we have found each other, etc. statements like that yet wont provide crucial information.

Any Dialog suggestions, or thoughts or perspectives would be great.

The answer to this is simple. She's not for real either.  FP is telling you straight.


People may come up with several excuses for her but I don't buy into any of those.  She clearly indicates that she is into you -- your gut instinct is saying what to you?


"BEEP BEEP WARNING.. SOMETHING AIN'T RIGHT"... You already have your answer.   Why try to rationalize away what you already know?

[ECOCKS]

What would you think if you were dating an AW and she told you those things but still made you pick her up and drop her off at the public bus station?

Move on.

You're just getting your feet wet in this venture.

Read the Commandments, scan some of the sections/threads and get a feel for what sort of things your spidey sense needs to be tuned up for as you pursue this venture.

Best of luck!

[CDW]

Rednell

Goodbye to these ladies (or men) ... Glad that you did not send them money 

If I were you, yes, goodbye to them.  If they do not want to give you their home addresses (after knowing them for a while), then it is pointless to continue.   If you asked them in your 1st e-mail, that's different.

Good luck in finding the right lady

[Shadow]

You have to turn it around. The number of real and sincere RW that will actually contact you are very low. Better you chose who you want to talk to, and it will go much easier as long as you do not try to catch things out of your league.

[newjason]

Hi Rednell.

These guys are right. 
What woman is on a dating/marriage site, who will not give out her contact info?
The answer is : No woman.
In fact, you should be aware that a lot of these correspondences  that you think are from the person n the photos, are not that same person. 
It is quite possible you are exchanging romantic conversations with a man.
You talked to her on the phone,  ok.  But that one could be a girl hired by the man who was emailing you.  Now, that may or may not be true. You don't know for sure.

My point is this..

You don't know anything at all about who you are talking with until you are sitting in the same room , face to face.  Even then , A lot of the women you are seeking do not speak English well enough to hold a hour long conversation.

We in the west are raised to believe that everyone is honest and truthful, and to give people the benefit of the doubt. Innocent until proven guilty...
There is nothing wrong with that way of thinking, IN the REAL world.
However, this is not the real world, this is cyberspace.  It is Virtual -- meaning  Not real.
So, in the real world,  you trust , until otherwise proven that you can not.
In the NOT  real world, you should assume that nothing here is real until you can prove otherwise.

People who not distinguish between the Virtual and Real world are going to have their fantasies taken away at  some point. 
There is not place on the internet where you will find all the winners of a truth telling contest. Everyone  lies.

Now, you have some information, some opinions, some advice from people who want nothing from you.
Take it for what its worth. 
I just hope you are able to learn something here, as a lot of us have and still do learn every day.

I think you already know in your heart the answers to your questions.
Listen to your gut feelings.
That's why they are there.


Oh, and welcome ....