Communication

[AnObserver]

Good morning ladies and gentlemen,

I'm here to discuss some letter-writing and skype communication issues.

First and foremost, how long does it normally take to ask for/ give an e-mail address and/ or skype?

Is it appropriate to provide this information in the first letter or it's better to switch to a letter-wring mode first and try to get as much information as possible at this stage?

Should I beware of those women who want to get my e-mail without even getting to know me first?

Second, what if a woman can understand and write in English but her spoken English isn't so great?
How do we communicate via skype then? Should she nod or what?   
Has anyone tried to use the professional interpreting services?

[Lily]

Good morning ladies and gentlemen,

I'm here to discuss some letter-writing and skype communication issues.

First and foremost, how long does it normally take to ask for/ give an e-mail address and/ or skype?

Is it appropriate to provide this information in the first letter or it's better to switch to a letter-wring mode first and try to get as much information as possible at this stage?

In my opinion, it makes sense to switch from the dating site to more independent and individual means of communication as soon as there is a feeling for a potential development. In other words, when you start to feel that this is the woman with whom you definitely want more intensive contact, try to get her out of the site. Lots of communication throught the dating site facilities are just like trying the waters. Some shoot a large number of emails in the hope to find someone that stands out. Then I'd go for that outstanding person, there may be one, three or five of them, and continue with them through email or other means.
 

Should I beware of those women who want to get my e-mail without even getting to know me first?

Personally, I don't see a reason why would she do this. My take would be that I wouldn't move to the emails unless I see some potential in this new contact. Even more so with skype or phone.
 
However, I probably wouldn't be the best advisor when it comes to scam protection. I am just a normal woman, not a scammer   
 

Second, what if a woman can understand and write in English but her spoken English isn't so great?
 

A very usual thing when the language is learned by books only without exposure to the native speakers. Happens in the FSU most of time. Well, in this case the communication goes slowly..communicate in writing...give her the time to read and to react...
 
 

[steveboy]

Any women who asks for your e-mail immediately is a scammer. That is fact. Very few women want to even waste time communicating via e-mails. Why should they we live in the 21st Century.

[ML]

Be smart with emails addresses for any purpose.

You  can go to gmail, hotmail, juno, yahoo and many other such places and get all the email addresses you need.

Use a main email address only for close friends and family.

Use another only for your established business communication.

Use another when you order items on-line.

Use another when you sign up for on-line chat groups.

Use another for each Dating Site you register with.

Use another to give to all gals/guys who first ask for it on Dating Sites.

Use another after you get to know the gal/guy better and want to continue serious communication.

You can even manage this better buy registering your own URL Domain (only $5-25 per year) and get 25-100 or even unlimited email addresses.

http://web.appstorm.net/roundups/email-roundups/the-best-places-to-host-your-email-with-your-own-domain/

http://www.godaddy.com/domains/search-dus1.aspx?gclid=CKOeyfTJ-rgCFYai4AodhiAAHw&isc=gofdd014&ef_id=UefySQAAAQMxWXpl:20130813135720:s

[Faux Pas]

Any women who asks for your e-mail immediately is a scammer. That is fact. Very few women want to even waste time communicating via e-mails. Why should they we live in the 21st Century.

I'm going to call bullshit on this. Some women (and men) don't like pussyfooting around. Getting away from the agency or website asap should be a priority IMHO. Email address is harmless. As ML stated, if you are uncomfortable with using your personal one, set up another.

Observer, IMO, as soon as you get an email from a women that you like, find intriguing or interesting, volunteer to phone her or Skype. The sooner the personal contact, the better. There is no set and fast rules as to when. Likewise if she asks you (hopefully for the same reasons) do not hesitate. It's semantics.

[Patagonie]

Any women who asks for your e-mail immediately is a scammer. That is fact. Very few women want to even waste time communicating via e-mails. Why should they we live in the 21st Century.

Yeah
The firs job of every scammer is to extract you from the site they fished you.
They want you to join the massive files they have, so they can proceed automic and massive treatment. Only few would be milked, so to milk one they need to fish 1000. More they fish better money.
So they cannot loose time to write to two, three or six hundreds site and follow who is who and what had been written.
This why you absolutely should stay on the site the first few messages. If a girl cannot answer you (and if she is new on the site, and even more she is not active the days after) odds that it is a scammer are really high.

[Faux Pas]

Yeah
The firs job of every scammer is to extract you from the site they fished you.
They want you to join the massive files they have, so they can proceed automic and massive treatment. Only few would be milked, so to milk one they need to fish 1000. More they fish better money.
So they cannot loose time to write to two, three or six hundreds site and follow who is who and what had been written.
This why you absolutely should stay on the site the first few messages. If a girl cannot answer you (and if she is new on the site, and even more she is not active the days after) odds that it is a scammer are really high.

Pat, if the man is destined or allows himself to be scammed it isn't going to make a bit of difference how quick he asks for or gives his email address. Many scammers will run from the thought of a telephone or Skype communication

[steveboy]

I know for FACT every women who opens the conversation with something like " Hello I really like you, maybe we could continue our conversation by e-mail?" IS a scammer, Im deleting women doing this on a daily basis. Its not just scammers who are collecting e-mails a big majority are other dating sites trying to steal your members, they are at it:)

[Faux Pas]

I know for FACT every women who opens the conversation with something like " Hello I really like you, maybe we could continue our conversation by e-mail?" IS a scammer, Im deleting women doing this on a daily basis. Its not just scammers who are collecting e-mails a big majority are other dating sites trying to steal your members, they are at it:)

Of course your experience with scammers far out weighs mine but, you do seem intent on being loose with the FACTs. Not every woman who immediately asks for an email address is a scammer. Many of those websites use filters that hinder trading information or, they did back in my day. I wanted an email as soon as I could get it and then separate the wheat from the chafe later. Many women seemed to be the same way as well.

[steveboy]

How many years ago was that? Just asking:)I mean few women actually want to communicate via e-mail same with guys. A few mails in a site to see if there is any attraction then straight onto Skype is the norm now? Why waste time with idol banter, you can be speaking live by cam within a few in-site mails:)
Well I never wanted to spend time writing boring mails about nothing over a few weeks. but Im not normal anyway

[Patagonie]

Of course your experience with scammers far out weighs mine but, you do seem intent on being loose with the FACTs. Not every woman who immediately asks for an email address is a scammer. Many of those websites use filters that hinder trading information or, they did back in my day. I wanted an email as soon as I could get it and then separate the wheat from the chafe later. Many women seemed to be the same way as well.

You seem to not understand that scammers want exactly you going to their emails where you will loose a lot of time.
The best is to sort them before, just answer on the site WHERE they contact you. A genuine woman would have no problem to answer on the site. A scammer will NEVER answer on the site.
Steve is also right : i never really noticed but i had  received random emails which in fact tried to redirect me to an other site (which i of course never used it).
Now the scam is here achieving an outsanding level : for one ad (to sell something a little expansive : let say a computer), i have EACH time between five and ten SMS (they cannot write you on your email as it is hidden) asking me to write to myscamadress@gmail.com.

[Faux Pas]

How many years ago was that? Just asking:)I mean few women actually want to communicate via e-mail same with guys. A few mails in a site to see if there is any attraction then straight onto Skype is the norm now? Why waste time with idol banter, you can be speaking live by cam within a few in-site mails:)
Well I never wanted to spend time writing boring mails about nothing over a few weeks. but Im not normal anyway

Six years maybe 7. Except for one time, born from discussion on this board about HRB, I went on that site to see about the cam requests. I haven't been on a dating site since meeting my wife. So yes, I am well out of tune with the more current etiquette. This was a bit early for Skype, we spoke on the phone as soon as possible. Then, scammers could just as easily be filtered out from the email box as well. Scammers have a way of revealing themselves to those willing to look.

You seem to not understand that scammers want exactly you going to their emails where you will loose a lot of time.
The best is to sort them before, just answer on the site WHERE they contact you. A genuine woman would have no problem to answer on the site. A scammer will NEVER answer on the site.
Steve is also right : i never really noticed but i had  received random emails which in fact tried to redirect me to an other site (which i of course never used it).
Now the scam is here achieving an outsanding level : for one ad (to sell something a little expansive : let say a computer), i have EACH time between five and ten SMS (they cannot write you on your email as it is hidden) asking me to write to myscamadress@gmail.com.

This does equate with any woman immediately asking for your email is a scammer. I have been contacted by scammers on American dating sites and you are correct asking immediately for my email and they were scammers. It was that contact that was actually the catalyst to me looking East to begin with. My point that you do not seem to understand is; a scammer is going to reveal themselves soon enough. As soon as they do, drop them. It's not complicated. Some women want direct contact as soon as possible, like I did. I was good for 2-3 emails then if I didn't have a phone number, end of communique, kapish?

[die_cast]

First and foremost, how long does it normally take to ask for/ give an e-mail address and/ or skype?

Is it appropriate to provide this information in the first letter or it's better to switch to a letter-wring mode first and try to get as much information as possible at this stage?

Don't ask about lady's email and Skype in your first (introduction) letter, it looks cheap, like you are just collecting ladies's emails.

Second, what if a woman can understand and write in English but her spoken English isn't so great?
How do we communicate via skype then? Should she nod or what?   

You can have video Skype and chat by typing at the same time. Most girls need more practice with spoken English, nothing wrong with it, be patient.