Do divorced men have less moral standing to talk about marriage?

[Slumba]

From Boethius:

You are divorced.  So exactly how are you, as a heterosexual, a better example to present for the institution of marriage than a gay couple together for 10, or 20, or 40 years?

So, since many of the RWD'ers have a failed marriage behind them, it is an interesting question to ask of RWD...

Does the mere fact of being divorced, in and of itself, mean you have less moral standing to comment about marriage?

(edit: I had thought the thread this comment is from was locked, but it wasn't - corrected)

[Muzh]

From Boethius on a now-locked thread:

So, since many of the RWD'ers have a failed marriage behind them, it is an interesting question to ask of RWD...

Does the mere fact of being divorced, in and of itself, mean you have less moral standing to comment about marriage?

You are divorced, aren't you?


What say you?

[Shadow]

That would depend on the reason of being divorced 

The point Boethius made was that to stay together takes more effort as to separate. Nobody is perfect, and sharing a life people need to have mutual understanding, respect, and the will to sacrifice themselves for the other.
Those who manage to make a choice and keep it running deserve respect, regardless of their orientation or legal status. Those who did not manage may not have been at fault, maybe they just mad a bad choice or decision.  However for them to look down on a successful coulbe because of orientation seems odd.

[Slumba]

You are divorced, aren't you?


What say you?

I think that there is objective truth, so, even if someone you can't stand, tells you that 2 + 2 = 4, you have to acknowledge they are right.

Bluntly, it is not always a consideration, but as we have seen in e.g. the recently publicized case of the ice breaker ship that got stuck in the ice - certain fact are uncomfortable and to point them out is almost "hateful". 

For instance, a hatefact about the ice breaker  that got stuck, with the second ice breaker ship that came to help, also getting stuck:  it was carrying a team of researchers who believe in global warming, and they wanted to measure the ice thickness in order to further their belief.

[LiveFromUkraine]

From Boethius:

So, since many of the RWD'ers have a failed marriage behind them, it is an interesting question to ask of RWD...

Does the mere fact of being divorced, in and of itself, mean you have less moral standing to comment about marriage?

(edit: I had thought the thread this comment is from was locked, but it wasn't - corrected)

I think you are misinterpreting what Bo was saying judging by your quote.


She compared a divorced man to a gay couple that was together for 10, 20 years.  A couple together for that long could teach the divorce man a thing or two.   Now, it all depends on lifestyle because I had known some gay guys and monogamy wasn't a strong part of their relationships. 


So it all depends, in a way, but she does have a point when it comes to making a relationship last.


You have to remember all of this is simply opinions.  Some people think marriage of 10 years or more is a success.  Others think death do us part is the only success.


In the end, it doesn't matter since you're the one having to live with your mistakes and successes.


I feel like I should quote someone now.

"don't worry be happy"  ~bob marley