Are FSUW materialistic?

[Chicagoguy]

I have been to Russia a number of times and my experience is, with the exception of one I identified immediately, none were extravagant in any way. They were all more careful with my money than I was. And now this extends to my wife of 5 years.  But a few were really up to it when I suggested ballets or other performances. They were not from Moscow so this was a real treat for them [ and me also ].

[GQBlues]

My experience almost literally transcends most nationalities. Being materialistic is neither a gender or cultural trait. Means and environment play a huge role in a person to acquire such trait.

If you have a typical person with the pocketbook and bank account of a typical Swiss, and surround him/her materials of comfort and luxury, regardless of their nationality, they will likely indulge. Granted, some may take longer than others, but they will sooner or later.

There's no correct side to start peeling a banana. 

[Slumba]

I think there are some FSUW that are *very* materialistic.  However they will let you know this quite quickly.

There are many FSUW that I met, that will still carefully evaluate you as a person first, regardless of the money you have or appear to have; and the money will be a distant second in their consideration of you.

[Gator]

A last consideration is that a crocodile skin is generally much more expensive than an alligator's, possibly to Gator's chagrin I imagine who will not be able to sell his own skin dearly .

Sorry, I must defend my own skin.  Something is wrong somewhere???   The Gleni site you referenced in Italian is available in English. 

http://www.gleni.it/difference-crocodile-alligator-caiman-leather.html

The English site says the opposite of what you reported.   Namely, crocodile leather (except the prized saltwater croc)  has  integumentary sensory organ pores, alligator leather shows the umbilical scar, etc.

Such is verified by all other sites I found:

http://www.davidstmoritz.com/AboutAlligator.cfm

http://www.alligatorfur.com/alligator/croc.htm

http://farbodbarsum.blogspot.com/2012/03/what-is-difference-between-alligator.html

http://ezinearticles.com/?The-Superiority-of-Alligator-vs-Crocodile-Leather&id=1114415

http://www.markstatonco.com/about-our-skins.html


Regarding quality, one can not go wrong with either alligator or crocodile.  Both  are luxury quality.  One observation:

Generally, alligator leather is viewed as the nicer and more luxurious leather, with more symmetrical scale patterns and a softer hide. Alligator has a smoother and more "three-dimensional" feel than crocodile skin, and alligator hides typically command the highest prices. It is one of the most highly sought raw materials by the manufacturers of luxury items.

In researching this, I read that the cost of a premium croc skin for a handbag is about $1000.  Considering that the Prada bag's price is 21,000 euros, the markup has me speechless for one of the few times in my life. 

[jone]

In researching this, I read that the cost of a premium croc skin for a handbag is about $1000.  Considering that the Prada bag's price is 21,000 euros, the markup has me speechless for one of the few times in my life. 

All evidence to the contrary.

[noelscot]

An exchange of views was begun on this question in the "Advice" thread. It seems to me that it's an interesting question and it might be helpful to have its own thread. I've been asked this question more than once. I've pasted a few posts here:

I've come to know only a small number of FSUW well enough to make a judgment, so I realize that what I've seen might well be not representative of the entire population.  I think one FSUW I dated was definitely materialistic. Her life revolved around expensive stuff she bought or wanted to buy. But none of the others appeared to be materialistic.

Here's the deal. Guys who are high-rollers are the most paranoid about being parted with their money, and it surfaces in all their social interactions with women of a lesser economic tier. FSUW desire nice things and a good life, like all people, which is not morally objectionable (unless one is an ascetic).

[Dewed]

I have absolutely no first hand knowledge of FSUW.. but, I must admit I find it somewhat irksome that such a question is even posted.  You can not connect a personalty trait like materialism to a nationality. To do so is called prejudice.

People are people, no matter what country they come from and yes, some are materialistic regardless of where they come from and some aren't. Their geographic location or nationality is irrelevant. I'm sure how they were raised and their innate morals is a much bigger factor in determining whether they are materialistic. Obviously not every FSUW was raised in the same environment or holds the same moral standards as ALL others.

Never believe such blatantly stereotypical statements, because no "X" is "ALWAYS" "Y"   ever.

[SANDRO43]

Sorry, I must defend my own skin.  Something is wrong somewhere???

You're right, I mixed up the last 2 references - amended accordingly . Your skin is safe .

[ML]

  You can not connect a personalty trait like materialism to a nationality. To do so is called prejudice.

Never believe such blatantly stereotypical statements, because no "X" is "ALWAYS" "Y"   ever.

You are wrong.  There are definitely traits that are predominant to peoples in some countries of the world, particularly when compared to another country.

Predominant does not mean there are not exceptions.

Are the people in Finland somewhat reticent regarding warm relations compared to Italians?

Are the people in Israel somewhat more humorous than are the people in Iran?

Are the people in Japan somewhat more 'stand-offish' to strangers compared to the Irish?

Do those in Switzerland tend to be more punctual than those in Brazil?

Do those in Korea tend to want to speak Korean language more than do those who live in Spain?

FSUW are much more materialistic than are Mennonite women.

[SANDRO43]

Do those in Korea tend to want to speak Korean language more than do those who live in Spain?

Isn't that surprising ?

[Doll]

FSUW are much more materialistic than are Mennonite women.

Apples to apples , dear- "FSU" mean MANY nationalities, "Menonites" I guess means just a Christian group.

[Doll]

I agree to you, ML, overall- there are certain typical traits that every nation has.

[SANDRO43]

I agree to you, ML, overall- there are certain typical traits that every nation has.

It's called prevailing culture, not that all will adhere with and some will even rebel against it .

[noelscot]

You are wrong.  There are definitely traits that are predominant to peoples in some countries of the world, particularly when compared to another country.

Predominant does not mean there are not exceptions.

Are the people in Finland somewhat reticent regarding warm relations compared to Italians?

Are the people in Israel somewhat more humorous than are the people in Iran?

Are the people in Japan somewhat more 'stand-offish' to strangers compared to the Irish?

Do those in Switzerland tend to be more punctual than those in Brazil?

Do those in Korea tend to want to speak Korean language more than do those who live in Spain?

FSUW are much more materialistic than are Mennonite women.

Is materialistim a bad trait in a woman?  That's the implication of this thread.

[alex330]

FSUW are much more materialistic than are Mennonite women.

I would agree. They are also more materialistic than hippie chics from the West Coast, farm raised girls from the Mid West, and granola women from the Rockies.

[Slumba]

FSUW are much more materialistic than are Mennonite women.

How many Mennonite women do you know? I grew up Mennonite, so, am curious.

[ML]

How many Mennonite women do you know? I grew up Mennonite, so, am curious.

I drove past one once.  Offered her money, and she refused.

[Doll]

I drove past one once.  Offered her money, and she refused.

[Slumba]

I drove past one once.  Offered her money, and she refused.

The women I knew from the church were more materialistic than they appeared.  The best looking one, and most wild, was the preacher's daughter.

She married literally, one of the dumbest guys I have ever met. She was 20 years old, he was 24 I think.  But they purchased the farm from his parents (her own family had no real savings as preaching doesn't pay that well), she quickly had 5 kids and now 20+ years later their youngest is about to leave the house.  The farm is easily worth $3 million plus, free and clear with no mortgage and plenty of bennies from the Canadian government.

So you didn't offer enough, unless you had a stack of 500Euro notes in a briefcase 

The girls that did "poorly" and got looked down upon, only married pig farmers (not dairy) - those farms are now only worth about $850K.

[alex330]

The best looking one, and most wild, was the preacher's daughter.

Why is this always the case?

[I/O]

Is materialistim a bad trait in a woman?  That's the implication of this thread.

I actually don't think it is provided it doesn't become obsessive. Wanting and keeping up with the Jones isn't all bad.

[jone]

Ain't no one that can keep up with the Jone(s), I/O

[Southpaw1982]

My wife has Coach, Michael Kors, and Gucci handbags. Could Louis Vuitton be next? Like most people, she likes quality products but she doesn't want to overpay and will shop outlet stores getting 60% and more off high dollar items.


I'm editing to add: I want and enjoy my wife looking good so what she buys doesn't bother me as long as she's a smart shopper.

I am like that too. I think it is stupid to overpay for stuff, especially if you know what it takes to make that dollar.