Start now or wait?

[Lily]

To make the conversation going, I'd probably write her back asking what would be particularly interesting for her in the profile so that she decided to contact you, in case she initiated the contact.

And also, what type of men does she consider 'interesting'', and, even more so, what men are decent men for her? Since she mentioned trying to get to know someone decent, one can tell that so far she only stumbled upon the undecent ones 

[TheBullRDR]

I like it.  Thanks for the tip!

[notforone]

Well friends, I believe it has begun.  in having realistic expectations, I do not expect that a 25yr old woman that is easily in the top three best looking women I have ever seen should ever break her neck trying to talk to me.  This is exactly (yeah right) what has happened.  I will write a few letters just to get her cut and paste responses and keep everyone posted.  This has to be a bunch of B.S.    I attached a picture of her.  Let the games begin!

Her figure is good but not a 10. Her face you will never be able to tell from the pictures. Most of them are slim, this is not difficult to find. Getting a naturally sweet and vibrant face and beautiful eyes is much tougher. Go to sites where private emailers post their pictures or the fsu social media. If you look closely, you will see that most are average looking girls. You've got to get her on Skype without makeup. If she looks decent on a computer camera, then it's a go. Last thing you want is wasting time and money, getting your hopes up and then going there and she looks like crap.

[TheBullRDR]

Her figure is good but not a 10. Her face you will never be able to tell from the pictures. Most of them are slim, this is not difficult to find. Getting a naturally sweet and vibrant face and beautiful eyes is much tougher. Go to sites where private emailers post their pictures or the fsu social media. If you look closely, you will see that most are average looking girls. You've got to get her on Skype without makeup. If she looks decent on a computer camera, then it's a go. Last thing you want is wasting time and money, getting your hopes up and then going there and she looks like crap.

There are more pictures...close ups.  She doesn't look like crap.  Which is what sent red flags flying right away in my brain.  I guess we'll see

I'm confused, hopefully you'll enlighten me. Even if you are attending full time classes for your degree you will still have vacations, holidays and down time from school. Why can't you travel during these times? Proper planning at the right times normally will allow you 10-14 days for a visit. Working a travel schedule between semesters or well timed holiday breaks can be much easier than dealing with a work schedule. Why the hesitation to travel? You'll always have reasons to wait. You'll fare much better to find reasons, ways and means to go.

The biggest answer is money.  I'm living off of my savings to pay room, board, and tuition.  Not alot to go around until I get back to work, which is what I do on those breaks.

[Isthmus]

The Bill, if you don't have the money for travel and generally don't have your life settled don't even bother going down this path because you will merely be wasting your time and that of others. It is time consuming and you must be able to finance regular travel. I am sorting out my fourth travel arrangement for this year right now. This time for her to visit me in my home country.

Any women willing to chat for extended periods of time and are not fussed about meeting soon are the flipside of 'Keyboard Romeos' ... there are 'Keyboard Juliets' out there too you know 

I was sidetracked for many months last year by such a time waster, was disappointing because we had actually met in person and had a great rapport/chemistry but if a women steps back from concrete plans more than once. Cut things then and there and move on (going a bit off topic but just wanted to share an experience that may help someone else).

[TheBullRDR]

Thanks for the tip.  I'm pretty sorted out.  I own everything free an clear. just have to have this degree to keep getting promoted.  My job is waiting for me when I graduate, which isn't too far off in the future.  Just can't right now because of school and living on savings.  Soon a I graduate I move back into my home, go to work and all things are as they were before I took his little detour.

[Hammer2722]

I believe at this point the OP should stick to his first priority which is finishing school. You obviously will not have any funds or time to begin this endeavor so just wait till you are back in the working world......

[Isthmus]

In that case, just concentrate on finishing your studies. You can also read and research the places you want to travel to. Some Russian language study might be a good idea until you are ready to do it properly after your studies are over.

[AC]

I believe at this point the OP should stick to his first priority which is finishing school. You obviously will not have any funds or time to begin this endeavor so just wait till you are back in the working world......

Exactly.  Spending any time at all writing to FSU ladies is a distraction.  We can see that from the fact that a woman who likely would not give him the time of day here in the USA is suddenly interested in him.  He hasn't yet come to grips though that such a woman expects the man to be 100% commited and sorted.  Anything less IMO is a complete waste of time. 

[Faux Pas]

The biggest answer is money.  I'm living off of my savings to pay room, board, and tuition.  Not alot to go around until I get back to work, which is what I do on those breaks.

Money is an essential ingredient in this endeavor. There's advice here that you should wait and get your degree before writing any ladies. That's probably good advice. I'd add that you need to save up money for this endeavor, too. If you are seriously looking for a woman to marry, you should understand that the travel to meet and visit initially is just the tip of the iceberg as far as expenses go. If money is an issue, I would advise to wait until it isn't. FWIW

[Muzh]

Her figure is good but not a 10. Her face you will never be able to tell from the pictures. Most of them are slim, this is not difficult to find. Getting a naturally sweet and vibrant face and beautiful eyes is much tougher. Go to sites where private emailers post their pictures or the fsu social media. If you look closely, you will see that most are average looking girls. You've got to get her on Skype without makeup. If she looks decent on a computer camera, then it's a go. Last thing you want is wasting time and money, getting your hopes up and then going there and she looks like crap.

Oh, I'm pretty sure you turn down women like this at your local watering hole all the time. Right?

[notforone]

Oh, I'm pretty sure you turn down women like this at your local watering hole all the time. Right?

The thread is not about me, but since you ask: I do quite well in the 35-45 age range.

But you're missing the point. I am not going to make a long trip to a shitty country, commit time and funds, to meet the same type of woman I can meet in my "local watering hole".

She must be better looking and younger than the typical AW I can meet here. That's it, otherwise not interested. Anything else is for the suckers.

It works the same way for the ladies. They can get plenty from the local dudes. They're looking for eligible men. If you don't offer them what they're looking for, they'll drop you like a hot potato. Nothing wrong with this. This is how the world works.

Back to the OP: I did not realize you're a student. I have to agree with the others. Focus on your degree. It's not like they'll stop making girls in Ukraine. When you're ready, you'll have better chances, too.

[Muzh]

Yep, heard that same line many times here.


To the OP, tread with caution. You may have too much on your plate. Only YOU knows how to handle it.


Again, good luck.


P.S. The lady is hot. Please don't post any more pictures of her. You'll never know.

[notforone]

Yep, we just have different standards.
It goes like this: a broad that looks smoking hot to one man looks just above average to another. Bottom line is to find an fsu woman that's better than the woman you can have in your country. Sounds you've accomplished this, so hats off to you 

[Doubleshot4UK]

The thread is not about me, but since you ask: I do quite well in the 35-45 age range.

But you're missing the point. I am not going to make a long trip to a shitty country, commit time and funds, to meet the same type of woman I can meet in my "local watering hole".

She must be better looking and younger than the typical AW I can meet here. That's it, otherwise not interested. Anything else is for the suckers.

It works the same way for the ladies. They can get plenty from the local dudes. They're looking for eligible men. If you don't offer them what they're looking for, they'll drop you like a hot potato. Nothing wrong with this. This is how the world works.

Back to the OP: I did not realize you're a student. I have to agree with the others. Focus on your degree. It's not like they'll stop making girls in Ukraine. When you're ready, you'll have better chances, too.

 

There are many who are missing this point or have too much time or "starved" for sex.

[BillyB]

Oh I wont waste their time.  I'm am being up front about not being able to travel right away. 

That's fair to the ladies. You let them decide if they want to communicate with you knowing things can drag out. I would recommend a guy not writing ladies until he's financially secure and can visit a lady within a couple of months. There are a few ladies that will wait for you to finish your education. It will be hard to find them but the most important thing you'll be getting by writing women now is social skills. Many guys are lacking the ability to communicate with women so the experience now may help you later.


I noticed you posted a few pics of women out of your league. If you're a 10 in personality, character, or intelligence, you can get a 10 in looks. If you're not a 10 in any category, ask yourself why, fix the issues and get there.