Dnepropetrovsk and Krivoi Rog using Cindy

[snowm]

Hello to all,
I've been reading for some time the posts in this forum, and decided to come "out of the closet" and share my (limited) experience and ask for some advice.
I'm a 33 year old who's writing some some girls in the Dnepropetrovsk and Krivoy Rog using Cindy Agency, and whom i intend to visit next fall.

There are 2 girls in which I'm more interested one S. a 23 year old from Krivoy Rog and A. a 19 year old from Dnptsk the other girls are a back up in case i don't hit well with S. or A.
S. sounds to me as good person with which i have somethings in common, she's polite, thoughtful, and good looking I'd rater a 7 in that department. A. on the other hand is sort of my fantasy woman (well girl..) she's apparently has almost all the characteristics i like in a woman plus she's physically a 9 to my personal taste, but i guess a 19 year old is a 19 year old so I'm sort of keeping the torch down on A. (don't know if that will be possible when i meet her ).

I've read Michelangelo and groovlstk trip reports to that part of the world and they are great reading!

Now I'd like ask the people who've used Cindy, what the real deal? I've heard people used it and liked it other say it's a scam ?
In some of the letters i get sort of felling somethings been edited, example i asked at one time what the full name of one of the girls she replied my full name is "first name". Why would someone hide their full name?? i guess it's a harmless enough question.

Also I'd like to ask the guys who've been there (Dnptsk and KR) if they met some the girls I'm writing to and if they did what's their opinion of them (PM me please).


SnowM

P.S. please forgive me English mistakes as this is not my native language 

[groovlstk]

In some of the letters i get sort of felling somethings been edited, example i asked at one time what the full name of one of the girls she replied my full name is "first name". Why would someone hide their full name?? i guess it's a harmless enough question.

Snowm, before the girl's letter was sent to you, someone at Cindy simply went in and removed her surname but didn't take enough care to cover his or her tracks. Cindy often removes personal information like telephone #s, addresses, anything in the girls' emails to you that can potentially cut them out of the loop. I wish they'd be more upfront about this. There's a recent post in Scammers and Suspect Agencies by a guy that got scammed by Cindy and, without a single response to the accusations, the silence is deafening.



 

[Jumper]

Ive been to Dneper and have met girls thru cindy agency.

but i'll say i'm not much on corrsponding first and base nothing on it,., 5 min face to face tells you gfar m,ore, just my opinion.
so to that end i never corresponded with anyone , just meetings.

others have certainly used correspondence to lay some framework ,
and it works for them.


when just meeting women thru Cindy i think you would be very pleased with their service and sincerity of the women they have listed in general.
 (yes you can find insincere women anywhere,but i have to say far  more i met thru cindy were seriuos about marriage and sincere women.)



on the correspondence thing, i just dont think you will find any agency that wont cut out contact info, or other shenanigans, its the only way they make a living.you have to keep in mind 95% of guys writing never travel.


this doesnt justify shady practices!!!!!!
but it should open your eyes to the fact you arnt going to find any agencys in the FSU  that are 100% above board in the coerrespodence area,,in my opinion.find even one, and i'll likely show you easy examples of where they have been shady.
 Thats one of the reasons i just dont base anything at all,  on correspondence,too often its not *direct*
andeven when it IS direct-
 it inheirently puts expectations on both parties before you meet, and there just isnt any reason to do that.(just my take)


 
my advice, just go meet some girls,,
of course meet the two you have been writing,
but dont put any more weight to that meeting ,
than any other random one..
go with no expectations but to meet some nice women,
 and have a good time..
and then you just may meet somone special.
I think going that route ,with those expectations, you couldnt pick a better agency in Ukraine.The owners are good peoople and will take care of you.


 There are plenty of agencies out there operating with girls they pay to date you, and other silliness you dont even want to get into.
You need to realize just how crazy this business can be, and have a means of comparision.

My advice is just go!
keep your head on straight,  and have a good time,
 just dont put much stock in correspondence before hand.
 6 months of writing letters can be over in the first 10 seconds of meeting someone,  on either side!
and in 5 minutes of just meeting people face to face you generally have a pretty good idea if you would want to see them again.

[ConnerVT]

my advice, just go meet some girls,,
of course meet the two you have been writing,
but dont put any more weight to that meeting ,
than any other random one..
go with no expectations but to meet some nice women,
 and have a good time..
and then you just may meet somone special.

I think that was on the third 'Tablet of Stone' that failed to find it's way off the mountain.   

I can't agree more with what you wrote, AJ.  It mirrors my experience exactly.  Some of the women I had been writing (long ago, of course) I felt I would have a wonderful connection with.  Some just fell flat, others were a bit crazy.  My wife and I exchanged 2 short emails before we met.  Interestingly enough, after our first meeting, I was comparing each of the other women I met with her.

Some people swear by correspondence.  I'm not one of them.  You have to meet people.  Keep your expectations simple.  Insist on total honesty, especially from yourself.  Usually time on the ground is short, so there is little time for playing games, worrying about the impression you make, or guessing what the other person is thinking.  One side effect is that the confidence you will radiate from not worrying what others think of you is a very attractive trait.

[snowm]

Thanks for all the feedback! 

I've been corresponding for about 3 months only, just choose my favourites on the feedback i get from them and on my preferences to their personality and looks.
But you're absolutely right, writing is one thing meeting in person is another, I'm taking the whole process without hurries, if i make a hole in one fine, I'll continue contact, spend more time with her, visit more and see how it develops. if not I'll just keep looking.

I'll keep posting as things develop!

SnowM

[Turboguy]

Snow,
You might want to think about using a different agency just as a back up plan.  I am not saying to stop using Cindy, but use a second agency and write a few from the same general area.  Prefferably one that does not charge by the letter or monitor the messages are remove contact info. 

I have heard good and bad about Cindy agency and have never used them myself.   I do know with some agencys there is a good chance the gals the guys write do either don't really exist or don't even know they are writing to you.  I have a friend who worked for an agency and part of their job was to correspond with 20 guys a day using different identies.

You might want to try something like Elenas, or free personals.ru, or Merry Dating, or AFA.  There are a bunch to choose from.

[Captmonk1]

on the correspondence thing, i just dont think you will find any agency that wont cut out contact info, or other shenanigans, its the only way they make a living.you have to keep in mind 95% of guys writing never travel.

AJ,

I am no expert on the FSU agencies but what about the ones that just sell the girls address, phone numbers and E-mails?  I used aprettywoman.com and they seemed on the up and up as far as the information that was provided about the girls.  This is the only way I personally would have ever gone. It puts all the work on to the guy rather than the agency.

Brad

[Michelangelo]

Also I'd like to ask the guys who've been there (Dnptsk and KR) if they met some the girls I'm writing to and if they did what's their opinion of them (PM me please).

Hey Snow...send me a PM with the numbers of the girls you are interested in and I'll tell you if I know them.  My experience with Cindy was good--I met the girls I was writing to and when I ran the table and needed more, the office staff helped me find more dates.

It's true when you write a girl they will call the girl and "read" your letter to them.  They dictate a letter back to you, and the agency might "embellish" it to make you more interested in the girl!

Bottom line--You have to go and meet lots of girls.  Once you meet them you can get their personal email and cell and bypass the agency.

Second bottom line-- I met my fiancee via the Cindy Agency...  so, it can work!

[Jumper]

captmonk1-Brad-

absolutely !!
if you can get direct contact info from some agency , thats reliable,
 that would be a great deal.
I guess i'm just really jaded in that my wifes contact info years later is still in one of the bigger catalogs,,(to buy direct) (anastasia)

and it took us about 11 months to get her profile pulled off AFA..
  She had never signed with either agency..or recieved any letters thru 
either..so just wonder how many men pay for contact info that isnt good?
a lot of it is old and out of date,if not a direct scam.

The agency you mentioned may be much better ,
than those two big conglomerants!


I guess i'm just not much on correspondence, lol
 as even after i met my wife, we traded some short emails,  but the vast majority of our early communication was via phone..with mortgage sized phone bills lol

[Michelangelo]

I guess I'm just really jaded in that my wife's contact info years later is still in one of the bigger catalogs,,(to buy direct) (Anastasia)
so just wonder how many men pay for contact info that isn't good?

What? 
AJ!
That's your wife I have been writing to at Anastasia? 
Did you know she writes me almost every day? 
I've already spent hundreds of dollars on email fees and thousands on gifts to her! 
She didn't tell me she was married!!!
LOL

[wendaaaal]

I used Cindy in Krivoy Rog two summers ago. They did a great job with airport meeting, apartment, interpreter, and setting up meetings. I met four girls in K.R. over a five day trip. After previous unsuccessful letter writing campaigns, I had lost all faith in letter writing, but won't bash those that do. I wrote no more than 3 short letters to any of the girls. The "You seem interesting, I'm traveling to your city soon, why don't we meet?" sort of letters. On meeting, all the girls did know of my letters, so I just left it at that. Met a real gem of a girl who I returned to see on a subsequent trip. We exchanged info on the first trip and were "self sufficient" after that. Good luck on your visit! Wendell in Austin

[Jumper]

Micheal!
LOL do not get me started on Anastasia!

 I did an informal Study of the accuracy of anastasias contact info once upon a time (in country) they had a less than 50% "real person" in my lil study, and of the ones that were *real people* , a good 15 to 25% had relocated, been married already or whatever..
yes yes they always gave me new free contact info to replace the "bad ones"
and this just hel;ped broaden the studies scope LOL
as it kept on at about the same % of *bad info/good info*   pace untill i
just tired of it.
in my experience with anastasia count on about 3 out of 10 contact infos being worth a dang, but hey guys have found thier wives using them.. so anything works if your lucky or determined i guess?