Persistence or nuisance?

[xiphoid]

I talked with my two women friends concerning my situation with a Ukrainian lady I like very much and they advised me that persistence is the key – my friends are Russian and the other Ukrainian. They say that the men are much more persistent if not more aggressive than their western counterparts. Yet I wonder. At what point does persistence become nuisance? I'm trying to move things along a bit faster with a lady I've been corresponding with – off and on – for nearly a year. We tried to meet last May but some things happened while I was there in Kyiv and we could not meet – not her fault. We continue writing but the letters have become dull. I’ve offed phone calls and another meeting in October but did not get anywhere. She travels on business a lot – medical related. I’m not sure where her head is at now but I do know I have one foot out the door - I'm pursuing other possibilities now. From past experience when the lady loses interest she simply disappears rather than a slow fade. Anyway all else aside, what is the real deal concerning persistence and FSU ladies? Stalking just is not my style.

[mhr7]

Each situation is different but in my situation, persistence did pay off. I think you need some progress on the romantic front. Do you flirt with her? Does she flirt back? Does she show sexual interest of any sort? If not then you're just friends.

If she didn't show interest in you coming to see her and isn't excited about communicating with you, move on. As has been said a million times here, when an FSU girl likes you and wants you, there'll be no doubt.

On the other hand,there is value in playing hard to get. Stop initiating communication and act disinterested and see if she takes more of the initiative. I don't think women want a man who is too eager to always please them. They want a man who wants them but doesn't need them.

My thoughts.

[BC]

an old quote comes to mind..

"If something's meant to be, there's nothing you can do to screw it up; if something isn't meant to be, there's nothing you can do to make it work."

[CaptB]

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[xiphoid]

Test?

[BillyB]

The two lady friends giving you advice doesn't know the woman you're pursuing. Nobody has a good read why the lady you're pursuing isn't thrilled with you. Their advice isn't necessarily wrong. They are right that Western men are not as aggressive pursuing women as FSU men are and that is a turn off for many ladies. Ladies need to know you're into them as much as you want them to be into you.

I have my own ideas on how hard to pursue women and most like it. Not timid but not stalker either. You may pursue women fine or make adjustments. You or people who know you may be able to help you figure it out. Could be you're just the lady's backup plan if it doesn't work out with her #1. Keep options open to bring other women into your life. The lady you're pursuing may never come around even if you make adjustments to pursue harder.