President Trump - Dealing with the Russians

[onlyFSU4me]

Magic powder? C'mon BC there is no magic powder. But relations were significantly better with Russia before Obama and Hillary's reset button. There was no ISIS and the ME was considerably more stable than today. Do you realize how close we are on the brink currently? I hope so because I don't think most people do. Does Trump have magic powder? No, nobody does but, we've seen what Hillary has. She has done nothing but stick a match to the powder keg of world peace. Is he going to be worse? I don't think he can but, it's possible

 No, I don't think he'll be worse. There is no way  that he would help Russia become such a big military threat like Clinton has in the last few years.


http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-clinton-foundation-state-and-kremlin-connections-1469997195


 From the article...
Even if it could be proven that these tens of millions of dollars in Clinton Foundation donations by Skolkovo’s key partners played no role in the Clinton State Department’s missing or ignoring obvious red flags about the Russian enterprise, the perception would still be problematic. (Neither the Clinton campaign nor the Clinton Foundation responded to requests for comment.) What is known is that the State Department recruited and facilitated the commitment of billions of American dollars in the creation of a Russian “Silicon Valley” whose technological innovations include Russian hypersonic cruise-missile engines, radar surveillance equipment, and vehicles capable of delivering airborne Russian troops.
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[/color]You're debating with Bo right now about whether Trump has business interests in Russia. Fact is that Hillary definaetly has, and big ones![/size]

[onlyFSU4me]

Another source...


http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2016/08/01/hillary-clinton-sure-has-a-lot-of-ties-to-the-russians-n2200650





And people are worried about Trump being in bed with Russia? Looks like Clinton wrote the book on it.   

[BillyB]

Clinton will probably have a harsher stance with RU than Trump,

Clinton handed Russia the reset button and for many years she read the same intelligence Romney read when he said they're our greatest geopolitical foe. She and Obama doesn't understand Russia and the fact they need to portray strength to get results. Now Russia continues to fool Obama numerous times by agreeing to a ceasefire they never planned on abiding by. Obama didn't learn his lesson when Russia didn't abide by the Minsk agreements.

Clinton had Russians donating to the Clinton Foundation. She signed off on the sale of 20% of America's Uranium to Russia. Julian Assange has shown his source tapped into almost everybody's emails yet he isn't going to release Hillary's. Russia is his source and Russia wants Hillary to win because she caved in to blackmail. If Assange fails to deliver on his promise, watch how Hillary let Russia run free should she be elected.

Who watched the VP debates? Pence was presidential and Kaine acted like Trump. Kaine was unhinged and flustered occasionally and interrupted Pence alot. Too bad Pence wasn't the presidential nominee.

Why did Kaine get two glasses of water for this debate and Pence only one? While Pence wore an American flag pin, what kind of pin did Kaine wear?

[Anotherkiwi]

I can't speak for Trump. For myself, I have clearly qualified it as my opinion.

Where?  Certainly not in the post which I quoted above.

Seems obvious enough.

Which?  That Obama and Clinton really did create ISIS, or that it's simply your opinion that they did?

[BC]

Who watched the VP debates? Pence was presidential and Kaine acted like Trump. Kaine was unhinged and flustered occasionally and interrupted Pence alot. Too bad Pence wasn't the presidential nominee.

Why did Kaine get two glasses of water for this debate and Pence only one? While Pence wore an American flag pin, what kind of pin did Kaine wear?

I watched.  Kaine had the upper hand, but believe much of this was because Pence had to defend Trump and not himself making him seem a bit 'soft' aside from his personal nature.  Kaine vs Kasich would have been even more interesting..

As stated in another thread I think these two would have been worthier Prez candidates than Clinton Trump.

[Gator]

I watched.  Kaine had the upper hand, but believe much of this was because Pence had to defend Trump and not himself making him seem a bit 'soft' aside from his personal nature.  Kaine vs Kasich would have been even more interesting..

As stated in another thread I think these two would have been worthier Prez candidates than Clinton Trump.

Pence's nature is mild mannered.  He was himself.  I commented more in the other thread.  FP asked you a zinger. 

[2tallbill]

I watched.  Kaine had the upper hand, but believe much of this was because Pence had to defend Trump and not himself making him seem a bit 'soft' aside from his personal nature.  Kaine vs Kasich would have been even more interesting..

As stated in another thread I think these two would have been worthier Prez candidates than Clinton Trump.

68% of those who watched the VP debate thought Pence won.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-live-updates-trailguide-who-won-the-vice-presidential-debate-1475704460-htmlstory.html

(CNN)Mike Pence scored a narrow win over Tim Kaine in the vice presidential debate Tuesday night, according to a CNN/ORC instant poll, with 48% of voters who watched the debate saying Pence did the better job while 42% think Kaine had the best night.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/05/politics/mike-pence-tim-kaine-vp-debate-poll/index.html

[BillyB]

As stated in another thread I think these two would have been worthier Prez candidates than Clinton Trump.

Very true. I still can believe we have to choose between Hillary and Trump.

[JayH]

Did the American people really know they were putting such a “well-connected” guy in the White House?

Throughout Donald Trump’s presidential campaign he expressed glowing admiration for Russian leader Vladimir Putin. Many of Trump’s adoring comments were utterly gratuitous. After his Electoral College victory, Trump continued praising the former head of the KGB while dismissing the findings of all 17 American national security agencies that Putin directed Russian government interference to help Trump in the 2016 American presidential election.

As veteran investigative economist and journalist Jim Henry shows below, a robust public record helps explain the fealty of Trump and his family to this murderous autocrat and the network of Russian oligarchs. Putin and his billionaire friends have plundered the wealth of their own people. They have also run numerous schemes to defraud governments and investors in the United States and Europe. From public records, using his renowned analytical skills, Henry shows what the mainstream news media in the United States have failed to report in any meaningful way: For three decades Donald Trump has profited from his connections to the Russian oligarchs, whose own fortunes depend on their continued fealty to Putin.


The Curious World of Donald Trump’s Private Russian Connections

The Big Picture: Kleptocracy and Capital Flight

A few of Donald Trump’s connections to oligarchs and assorted thugs have already received sporadic press attention—for example, former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort’s reported relationship with exiled Ukrainian oligarch Dmytro Firtash. But no one has pulled the connections together, used them to identify still more relationships, and developed an image of the overall patterns.
Nor has anyone related these cases to one of the most central facts about modern Russia: its emergence since the 1990s as a world-class kleptocracy, second only to China as a source of illicit capital and criminal loot, with more than $1.3 trillion of net offshore “flight wealth” as of 2016.1
This tidal wave of illicit capital is hardly just Putin’s doing. It is in fact a symptom of one of the most epic failures in modern political economy—one for which the West bears a great deal of responsibility. This is the failure, in the wake of the Soviet Union’s collapse in the late 1980s, to ensure that Russia acquires the kind of strong, middle-class-centric economic and political base that is required for democratic capitalism, the rule of law, and stable, peaceful relationships with its neighbors.
CapFlight-1Instead, from 1992 to the Russian debt crisis of August 1998, the West in general—and the U.S. Treasury, USAID, the State Department, the IMF/World Bank, the EBRD, and many leading economists in particular—actively promoted and, indeed, helped to finance one of the most massive transfers of public wealth into private hands that the world has ever seen.
For example, Russia’s 1992 “voucher privatization” program permitted a tiny elite of former state-owned company managers and party apparatchiks to acquire control over a vast number of public enterprises, often with the help of outright mobsters. A majority of Gazprom, the state energy company that controlled a third of the world’s gas reserves, was sold for $230 million; Russia’s entire national electric grid was privatized for $630 million; ZIL, Russia’s largest auto company, went for about $4 million; ports, ships, oil, iron and steel, aluminum, much of the high-tech arms and airlines industries, the world’s largest diamond mines, and most of Russia’s banking system also went for a song.

http://www.the-american-interest.com/2016/12/19/the-curious-world-of-donald-trumps-private-russian-connections/