Polexit?

[Trenchcoat]

It's looking like Poland and the EU are becoming more at loggerheads of recent:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10136223/amp/EU-pushed-Poland-POLEXIT-Nation-ordered-pay-1million-day-judicial-row.html

With Poland now being fined a million Euros a day will they now choose to leave the EU too now that they are no longer getting money but having to give it?

It's looking like they are unlikely to budge regards to matters of the Judiciary & Sovereignty. The EU also doesn't approve of Poland erecting a border fence to keep out illegal immigrants. Could Poland's government be winding all this up into an excuse to leave the EU? If so might it rejoin countries like Ukraine & Belarus in being somewhere WM go to date in future years?

As I know it has some religious and possibly mentality differences to Ukraine & Belarus but it may still become a more better area to date if outside the EU so could be an interesting one.

[BC]

Trench,

you seem to be looking for prey, not a wife.

[Trenchcoat]

Trench,

you seem to be looking for prey, not a wife.

Bit of both is always good

[BC]

Face it, Trench, you are not a good hunter.  A good hunter is not born but instead listens, learns, and practices over and over until adequate skills are acquired. Unfortunately, from what I have gleaned from your posts, you like to talk more than listen, much less learn or, god forbid, practice.

[Trenchcoat]

Face it, Trench, you are not a good hunter.  A good hunter is not born but instead listens, learns, and practices over and over until adequate skills are acquired. Unfortunately, from what I have gleaned from your posts, you like to talk more than listen, much less learn or, god forbid, practice.

Let's get back to the topic of the post shall we, which wasn't me, it was another country that might soon have its own Remoaners

[BC]

Let's get back to the topic of the post shall we, which wasn't me, it was another country that might soon have its own Remoaners

So what is your point for posting this new topic?  Schadenfreude again?

Otherwise, it has little, if anything to do with the focus of RWD.  My replies make the topic a bit more germane and less spam-like.

[Trenchcoat]

So what is your point for posting this new topic?  Schadenfreude again?

Otherwise, it has little, if anything to do with the focus of RWD.  My replies make the topic a bit more germane and less spam-like.

It has plenty to do with RWD, remember the time when the Eastern Bloc countries were not in the EU? They were then all a good hunting ground for WM. WM could chose between any number of East European countries. I should have checked it out back then but sadly missed out. I remember a TV program on one of the Baltic States. It featured a rampant sex scene at the time out there. Western guys getting laid daily. I was around early twenties at the time so a bit early in the day for me to be looking out there. Still it shows how the EU squares everything up till it becomes another boring unexciting EU state where plenty of EU rules exist to prevent anything remotely exciting happening.

Situation is that WM are now mostly limited down to Ukraine, Belarus and if they want to pay for a visa Russia. They could go further afield to Georgia or the stans but few fancy that. Just think though if some of those countries broke away from the EU - happy days would be here again Far more countries to choose from rather than the threat of losing the odd couple of easily assessable countries remaining to further EU encroachment.

So Poland may break away while possibly Hungary are not to happy with the EU either. Could be interesting times.

[BC]

Trench,

Quit blaming your inability to form a meaningful relationship on a lack of destitute women desperate enough to even consider one with you.

Such thinking is simply sick, akin to visiting a brothel, then patting yourself on the back for being such a great guy or lover.

I highly suggest you seek help from a qualified mental health professional.

[ML]

Trench,

Quit blaming your inability to form a meaningful relationship on a lack of destitute women desperate enough to even consider one with you.

Such thinking is simply sick, akin to visiting a brothel, then patting yourself on the back for being such a great guy or lover.

I highly suggest you seek help from a qualified mental health professional.

BC, if you can put away TC's personal situation for a moment and any reference to men you think are like him, . . . is there some validity to his analysis in general ?

[BC]

ML,

I'd put such talk in the Trench pipe dream category.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-58863680

[Trenchcoat]

ML,

I'd put such talk in the Trench pipe dream category.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-58863680

Ah, Polish Remoaners already out in force then

If you look at the date of this report it goes back to earlier in this month to 11th October. The Polish Government has continued its confrontation with the EU since that date so they didn't take no notice of the Polish Remoaners protesting.

While there are many Poles in favour of staying in the EU the current Government isn't pro-EU it seems and of course enough Poles voted for them originally. There's nothing to say that hat the government alone can't enact the leaving process with the EU without a referendum

[2tallbill]

Everything I've read is that Poland doesn't want to leave the EU
but they don't want to give up their sovereignty either. It's a
tough choice. I imagine the Poles will work this out somehow.

The UK exited the EU and their economy and the UK people have been
far better and far happier as a result. It's was a nearly unanimous decision
and there have been nearly zero disadvantages or difficulties along the way.

strŭv za kukata

 

[ML]

It's was a nearly unanimous decision

UK voted to leave the EU by 51.9% to 48.1%
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics/eu_referendum/results



http://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/unanimous-decision

When a group of people are unanimous, they all agree about something or all vote for the same thing.

[Chelseaboy]

Do read the news, Trenchcoat ?  ( a funny name)

http://www.politico.eu/article/polexit-poland-veto-kaczynski-morawiecki-polexit-brexit-eu/


The EU is overwhelmingly popular among Poles

May be they watch the Brits queuing for gas for their automobiles and are wiser ?

I never had any problems getting petrol for my car...no queuing for me...and i don't personally know anyone who did : )


You shouldn't focus on news outlets hyping things up...it's what they do.

[Boethius]

PiS still de facto controls the Sejm, and it's most powerful figure, Jaroslaw Kaczynski, has stated Poland will not leave the EU.


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-10-16/poland-s-most-powerful-man-rules-out-nation-s-exit-from-eu


Plus, Poland is already apologizing.


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-10-25/polish-premier-warns-eu-against-starting-world-war-iii-ft-says

It has plenty to do with RWD, remember the time when the Eastern Bloc countries were not in the EU? They were then all a good hunting ground for WM. WM could chose between any number of East European countries. I should have checked it out back then but sadly missed out. I remember a TV program on one of the Baltic States. It featured a rampant sex scene at the time out there. Western guys getting laid daily. I was around early twenties at the time so a bit early in the day for me to be looking out there. Still it shows how the EU squares everything up till it becomes another boring unexciting EU state where plenty of EU rules exist to prevent anything remotely exciting happening.

Situation is that WM are now mostly limited down to Ukraine, Belarus and if they want to pay for a visa Russia. They could go further afield to Georgia or the stans but few fancy that. Just think though if some of those countries broke away from the EU - happy days would be here again Far more countries to choose from rather than the threat of losing the odd couple of easily assessable countries remaining to further EU encroachment.

So Poland may break away while possibly Hungary are not to happy with the EU either. Could be interesting times.

Poland was never a "hunting ground" for WM.  Furthermore, WM who married women who were desperate to escape poverty, rather than to build a family life, are now mostly divorced from those women.  Marrying a woman who is escaping an economic situation generally doesn't work well.  Eventually, she is going to build her own life, and will resent the man who exploited her.

[2tallbill]

PiS still de facto controls the Sejm, and it's most powerful figure, Jaroslaw Kaczynski, has stated Poland will not leave the EU.


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-10-16/poland-s-most-powerful-man-rules-out-nation-s-exit-from-eu


Plus, Poland is already apologizing.


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-10-25/polish-premier-warns-eu-against-starting-world-war-iii-ft-says



Poland was never a "hunting ground" for WM.  Furthermore, WM who married women who were desperate to escape poverty, rather than to build a family life, are now mostly divorced from those women.  Marrying a woman who is escaping an economic situation generally doesn't work well.  Eventually, she is going to build her own life, and will resent the man who exploited her.

I agree and partially disagree

I agree that pursuing desperate women is destined for failure.
Desperate women tend to act desperately. As soon as they aren't
desperate they tend to act normally.

I don't know that they would resent the man who stupidly got romantically
involved with a girl out of their league. They won't stay with him but they
might not hate him for getting used as a mule.

If you want to help out desperate women then there are plenty of excellent
organizations that you can get involved with, but keep romance totally out of
it. 

I don't see Poland as a country to avoid if you are interested in finding a future
wife.

[tfcrew]

I don't see Poland as a country to avoid if you are interested in finding a future
wife.

Boe really didn't say that...just stated that she felt that Polish ladies aren't necessarily the huntable type.
Though when she wrote--

Eventually, she is going to build her own life, and will resent the man who exploited her.

You will have the recurring question...Who exploited who?   

[Trenchcoat]

Boe really didn't say that...just stated that she felt that Polish ladies aren't necessarily the huntable type.
Though when she wrote--You will have the recurring question...Who exploited who?   

Admittedly they tend to be a lot harder from what I saw in Krakow though apparently out of the cities and tourist hit spots tends to be better from what I hear but not seen. Even still I think in every situation there is a kind of hidden maths going on as to whether a girl thinks a guy is worthy. If he comes from an area she would like to live as she sees it as better but can't get into herself then that can tip the scales in the guys favour. He just needs to make sure that isn't all she is interested in.

I personally see that it would be the girl that exploited the guy in the first place as though she would have to give herself to him to get into the country it was still her choice to do so in the first place. End of the day no one has a right to just walk into any country without being accepted through the given process at least in theory they shouldn't do. I can't go to the US and decide to just pitch up there without going through formal residency/citizenship process that currently I would be highly unlikely to get through.

[Trenchcoat]

A lot of Poland's argument against the EU at present is over Poland asserting it sovereignty. The UK had the same issue among others. The EU wants to be in control and work towards a superstate denying member states their sovereign power. At the end of the day if the EU tries too hard along these lines many member states may come to see the benefits of membership not worth handing over their country over permanently to the EU for.


In other news the UK has been flexing it's muscles for the first time post Brexit. A UK nuclear sub has surfaced in Australia showing the world we can be strong again:

http://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2021/10/royal-navy-nuclear-powered-submarine-astute-calls-in-australia/

[2tallbill]

Mr 2tall

Where you in England, recently ?

I was 2 times this month and there are shortages of many food items and I had to remain in Manchester 2 days more as my brother could not buy diesel for his automobile

Perhaps it is because I circulate with fellow europeans but I meet English people and I think many see the mistake if they voted to leave.

There are shortages of truck drivers and the British advertise in my country for drivers and offer visas.

On my second visit of the month, once again, the local Tesco was without diesel for 1.5 days.


Any person suggesting this is COVID, please tell me which other european nation cannot deliver gas to vehicles and had to call to army for help ?

Mr Moby,

I wrote that since I know you would have to respond to it. You don't have
the ability to read a post about the wonders of Brexit and to leave it be. 
In Bulgarian, I wrote bait for hook at the end of my post.

You give yourself away. You always ask somebody about when was the last
time they were there and your more recent experience trumps theirs,
(Appeal to authority fallacy) so therefore you are the unquestioned
expert on all things related to the place.

You also went after Trench. A Bulgarian girl wouldn't do that unless he
somehow engaged with her, but Moby can't help it. At least you didn't
say I was posting daft. A real Bulgarian girl would comment on the
"strŭv za kukata" phrase before she would have called me out
on my silly post.

I don't actually believe that Brexit was unanimously loved by all.

Udachi!

Bill