do we really change with age?

[PeeWee]

Thanks SOC.  I am sure you never expected this thread to take the turns it has.   Don't worry about it.  I think it is winding down.   My comment about being popular was a joke by the way.   It is not exactly the kind of popularity anyone tries for. 

As long as you don't claim to be as popular as Jesus Christ you will remain on safe ground.

Peewee

[Bruno]

Would any of you at age 20 consider dating a 70 year old woman? 60? 50? How many of you now would consider dating a 70 year old woman? Come on now, age doesn't matter.

When i was something like 23 y.o., a very young sailor man, i have date a woman over 50 y.o. ( don't really know how much over 50 )... She was in good shape and i have learn a lot about "sex relation"... in French, we have a proverb who said :"C'est dans les vielles casseroles que l'ont fait la meilleure soupe"...

Now, it was dating... in no way, it was about a future life together... only dating or seeking a wife is something very different...

Let make a test... for these below 25 yo... do you will have interest in dating these old women from 50 year...
http://freepersonals.ru/view_anket.php?id=229918

Some older choice...
A 51 yo : http://aprettywoman.com/d.cgi/1001J279489884.195.32.1101162632043
A 52 yo : http://aprettywoman.com/d.cgi/10015992489884.195.32.1101162632043

Again, i repeat, dating is not the same that marriage...

[SANDRO43]

in French, we have a proverb who said :"C'est dans les vielles casseroles que l'ont fait la meilleure soupe"...

Hmm, the French dance around cooking utensils, while we go straight to the heart of the matter : "Gallina vecchia fa buon brodo" (An old hen makes a good broth) .

Let make a test... for these below 25 yo... do you will have interest in dating these old women from 50 year...

Depends on whether their photos are also 50 y.o.

[ConnerVT]

As long as you don't claim to be as popular as Jesus Christ you will remain on safe ground.

Even JC isn't popular everywhere.  Just read the newspapers...   

[viking]

Bruno

There are nice women in every age bracket. Just need to look for them. They are pretty, no doubt.

[Son of Clyde]

As long as you don't claim to be as popular as Jesus Christ you will remain on safe ground.

Peewee

Look at the problems it created for John Lennon.

[Gator]

Many older men say they are young at heart.  Great, that is important!  Are you also young in body?  

One may not be able to correct sagging skin and falling hair, yet one can correct sagging muscles and falling ass.  How many men here 45 and over are physically fit?  By that I mean they do three half-hour sessions of cardio each week and three sessions of weight training.  Believe it or not, women like a flat stomach and strong arms, and while they never would choose a man merely for those qualities, it is compensating.

Bruno, please explain your saying.  What is a “dans les vielles” saucepan?  

Your three 50-yo women are attractive and very datable, an opinion obviously influenced by my age.  How about these:

http://freepersonals.ru/view_anket.php?id=218757&photo=1

http://freepersonals.ru/view_anket.php?id=223898&photo=2

http://www.russian-women.net/ladies/uk7300.shtml

[Son of Clyde]

I know a woman who is at least 70 and has retained her beauty. She actually looks more beautiful than her photos at 25. Maturity does not mean you have to become ugly. Pictures of Cary Grant at 75 reveal a still handsome man. And of course there is Sean Connery.

[Son of Clyde]

If life is a cycle of growth, what is wrong with a younger woman wanting to grow with an older man who is just at a later point in the cycle of life?

Seems she has much to gain in life experience and if it is known up front that she will most likely outlive her husband, it is a choice they both must make.

[TexasBoar]

How many men here 45 and over are physically fit?  By that I mean they do three half-hour sessions of cardio each week and three sessions of weight training.

 I do a LOT more than that, actually, but since having most of my thyroid out in '00, I'm still built more like Tank Abbott than David Hasselhoff.  Just started on synthroid, though, so I'm anticipating substantial "trimmage" over the next few months.

~Boar

[vwrw]

From mspanky:
Men and women need to be physically attracted to a partner. I can imagine in 10 years the woman being 38-45 and husband now 70, with no muscle tone, sagging wrinkled skin, thickening waistline, losing hair and health issues can't be a very sexually stimulating sight for these women.

A 70 y.o. man very well can be the sexually stimulating partner for a 38-45 y.o. woman. So as women are less visual than sensitive. A young guy who has muscle tone,…and so on but who does not know how to touch and to kiss woman in a correct way will be worst sexually stimulating partner for her than the old and well- experienced man.

From mspanky:
 I have seen women married to much older men become widowed. One thing they have in common is if they do remarry, they usually stick within their age range this time.

Yes, it often happens so. Many of people often do not value what they have. A young woman less values a youth of one than an experience and wisdom. And opposite an old woman less values the experience and wisdom of one than the youth. We always want things which are in lack. During the years woman had lived with her “old husband” she got the experience and wisdom. As a result when she becomes widowed and decides to remarry she sticks within her age range this time because of now she less values the experience and wisdom of one than the youth which she loses.   
I think with age more change our values than we change. 

From mspanky:
The irony is how some can throw out what they want in a woman in terms of youth and attractiveness.. But the second I point out some women may have the same expectations, people are not happy to hear that.

Here the key word is- some-. Yes, some women may have the same expectations. But apart from the some women there are others else who may have different expectations. 

From mspanky:
Shallow men attract shallow women.

I think a handsome man even if he is not shallow will attracts many more shallow women than the most shallow man but ugly or old.

From mspanky:
As someone said, if you can't even attract young ugly women in the U.S. what makes you think a FW who is less likely to understand your language and culture will find you attractive??

I think someone often says here (by the way he is wise man, I think so sometimes) – Be very careful about you wish for. Your dreams might come true. Knowing about it makes one to think that a day his dream comes true. And if he does his best for it (so as he understands people themselves make their own luck) his dream will come true.   
 
From mspanky:
They want young, they want beautiful; they want the trophy everyone will envy because they deserve it! It's no "accident" most guys end up with very young and pretty wives. I see shallow.
I say be realistic. That trophy you want so badly may not be so satisfied to have average after awhile. Most guys won't settle for average and sweet, but expect the women to and be happy settling with it, when they themselves cannot.

Man who got his “trophy” cannot be average. Men with “trophies” and word average are incompatible. Only people who deny their dreams and do nothing for their dreams to come true are average. If everybody who gets their dreams were average then the world would be a paradise. But the world is not the paradise because the average people know word – impossible.
Everything one can image is possible…maybe it is difficult to get but it is possible! Remember a long time ago a plane also was one’s “impossible dream”!     

JB, how well I have learnt your lesson?

[Son of Clyde]

vwrw, you seem mature beyond your years.
There will always be these age related discussions and it is nice a Russian lady like yourself can openly and honestly voice her opinion.
I am sure many Russian women do not want an older man and it is their choice. It is not the norm in our society but it is not impossible. These marriages do work. My father knows a man of 86 married to a woman of 56 and they have been together over 20 years.

[Bruno]

Bruno, please explain your saying.  What is a “dans les vielles” saucepan? 

VWRW have explain it very good... 

A young guy who has muscle tone,…and so on but who does not know how to touch and to kiss woman in a correct way will be worst sexually stimulating partner for her than the old and well- experienced man.

[Son of Clyde]

Per IM Translator French to English:
dans les vielles = in hurdy-gurdies

[Bruno]

Per IM Translator French to English:
dans les vielles = in hurdy-gurdies

Problem of typo...

"c'est dans les vieilles casseroles qu'on fait la meilleure soupe"

in english, it give something like  : "it is in the old pans that the best soup is made"

[SANDRO43]

Per IM Translator French to English:
dans les vielles = in hurdy-gurdies

Well known fact that in musically-inclined Belgium they cook their soups in hurdy-gurdies (César Franck did that all the time because he could not use his church organ for that, too many casseroles to manage simultaneously). A real stroke of genius, combining a boring cuisine chore with an uplifting instrumental accompaniment .

[TexasBoar]

Sandro, that's the single most surreal post I've read since joining RWD.  Bravo!

~Boar

[SANDRO43]

T/B, I omitted to mention the fact that Belgians are also VERY wealthy people, because, hurdy-gurdies being made of wood, their cooking practices involve rushing to the music shop for a new casserole after preparing ANY soup.

[Son of Clyde]

Before the soup is served the village elder must summon Donovan to sing his rendition of Hurdy Gurdy Man while the soup is simmering.