2 months in Ukraine

[Scorpion]

If you could spend 2 months in Ukraine what cities would you want to visit?
Your top 3

[Shadow]

Kiev
Odessa
Lviv

That will take you around the country as well if organized.

[GregfromGa]

1. Yalta/Alupka
2. Kiev
3. Yalta/Alupka

Keep in mind I've never been to Odessa and I know there are lots of guys that love it down there. I've spent a lot of time in Kharkov and if you're single that might be the only place you want to go.

Now I did meet a girl from Donesk on the ferry from Alushta to The Shallows Nest that would make a trip there worth going if we only knew she hadnt got married. Forget about the fact of probably never finding her. The chance of it would be worth the 2 months just searching. She was with her mother and I was with the first girl I ever went to see from Kharkov. She had blue eyes, dark hair, nice tan ,well toned quads and calves,beautiful white teeth and her English was good enough to get you by without any problem.

So we're all four sitting there cramped up for the hour or so boat ride. Her skirt is slowly inching its way up farther and farther and I'm focking dying because her skin is on my skin.  The girl I went with and as I look back she was a great girl,very tall and humble,pretty,very Russian looking,well she was just trying too hard with me and it was a couple of days after I had just met my wife to be in the trainstation on the way to see her and take this trip. Anyways she was a little pissed because I had wanted to eat out that afternoon and she decided to go to the market and cook up a bunch of good stuff while I was taking a small Spanish pause on the sofa. Anyways she was pissed. The poor girl would never listen to me about anything,but looking back she never really did anything wrong. I still have her number if any single guy whose never been married and has no kids wants it. She was and probably still is a virgin and will remain that way until she's married.

So little things has happened throughout the trip and I know this girl I will never marry. Not because she's a virgin,but because I was very new at this and I was like a kid in a chocolate shop. I know I was probably wrong. Anyways the skirt is climbing and the girl is smiling. I'm making small talk with the mom and the girl and Diana is so pissed off. I'm finally able to concentrate hard on something that allows me to stand up  LOL  then I go buy us all a cold bottled water. Diana is so pissed off that she never looks at me again until we get off the boat at The Nest. While there Diana gets us robbed in some gypsy scam with a camera. She lost about $100 of my money. About the time the boat was about to leave the girl takes of running with our money. I knock her ass down head first into a concession stand and slap the shit out of one of her partners,tackled him and had him choked down. I knew I would be going to jail and didnt have any money and we were a long way from Alushta. I did the smartest thing I ever done by letting him up,running down the steps and catching the boat before it pulled off by a minute or less. I kept telling Diana not to give them any money but she kept outbidding the guy I choked down.

Anyways on the boat she is crying. The beautiful girl from Donesk and her mom are waiting with us a water when we get to our seat. I ask Diana to explain what happened because they are now looking at me like I've beat up Diana. I ask Diana to explain what happened so they wouldnt think I'm a bad guy. She refuses again and again. I'm so focking mad I could eat fishhooks. I finally stand up and ask the whole boat who spoke English. One girl explained to the boat what happened because Diana was crying and carrying on and everyone was looking at me like they wanted to throw me off the damn boat.

So I get up and walk to the back of the boat. The skirt was killing me,I had just been robbed,got in a fight,knew my trip was wasted with this girl and had met my wife to be a few days before in the Kiev trainstation and had no idea if she would ever write me back. So the skirt walks back there and we start talking as best we can. Keep in mind at that time I was in the best shape of my life. I was confident and I've got some game when it comes to keeping girls much prettier than me amused. We talk until we dock in Yalta. The boat ride is only a few short minutes. We unload and I leave Diana to think about the fact that she hasnt listened to me since I got off the train the day we met. I finally track down the skirt and walk around with her and her mother for about an hour. She is killing me in every aspect of the word. I buy her and her mom a small seashell necklace they liked although they were humble and didnt want me to spend the money. Luckily I had found a $200 grivna note in my pocket. So to make a long story short I get her number. Diana never spoke to me anymore that night. We leave for Kharkov the next evening. Diana probably knows its over but she tells me on the trainride home that she loves me and she's sorry and blah blah blah. She never knew about me walking with the skirt I dont reckon.

We arrive back in kharkov the next morning. I go check me email and sure enough my wife to be(Katy) had written me. We miss eachother by a few hours in Kharkov. I write her back and asked her to meet me under Lenin in the square at 5PM that evening. She never got my message until the next day. I leave Kharkov that evening. I get her message the next day at a internet cafe in Paris. We only missed eachother by a few hours because she actually lived in a village outside kharkov that had no internet cafe. I went beack to see her a couple months later and then a couple more and s on and so forth for a year. We've been married now almost 4 years.

As far as the skirt on the boat,well I lost her number somewhere on the train or in transit. It was for the best. I never wouldve called after getting the letter from Katy anyway. I threw out her pictures before Katy arrived here. No evidence of anyother excursions is always the best when you're married. Sorry I took over the thread. Hope yall enjoyed this very true story.

[Jack]

That will take you around the country as well if organized.

Shadow, Kiev to Odessa to Lviv does not take a man anywhere close to what I consider Ukraine's most fertile region for finding many fine, sincere and beautiful women, the Golden Triangle, Kharkov, Lugansk, Dnepropetrovsk.  And with the Golden Triangle one has a wonderful support network.

For guys going to Kharkov they can also include the cities of Poltava and Sumy.   We also have Donestk and Sverodonestk to work in concert with Lugansk.  And going to Dnepropetrovsk a guy can now easily include Zaporozhye and Krivoy Rog.

[Wayne B]

Scorpion, For over a week now....I awake in the morning and look at her preatty face while she sleeps and I pause and thank God for letting Anna and I come together by way of Kharkov.....I will add that prices are less for just about everything that you will need vs Odessa/Kiev, and I for one felt much more safe in Kharkov......

[ScottinCrimea]

If anyone takes a trip to Ukraine and doesn't visit Crimea they are missing out on the most beautiful part of the country.  My second visit here I spent 10 days driing all over the peninsula and still didn't see all there is to see.  Yalta is a nice place to visit one time, but in my opinion it's become over developed and over priced. I like the smaller beach towns better.

For someone's first trip I would say Kiev, Yalta and Lviv.  Once you get those out of the way, for future trips my recommendations would be different.

[Gator]

Scorpion,

You did not specify your goals so I assume they are generic:  see the country, interact with people (especially pretty women), and experience the local culture. 

I have spent 8 weeks in Ukraine.  Some of these other men have much more experience.

My top 3 (based on what I know plus what I have heard):

1.  Kiev - much to do and see there, sophisticated, dynamic, the Mother City for Slavs.

2.  Dnepropetrovsk-Kharkov (core of Jack's recommendation) (Poltava is charming and small, the other cities large).

3.  Black sea - Odessa (famously decadent in a setting of baroque architecture, theater, etc.) or Crimea (Sevastopol with history and not as many tourists and Yalta with splendid nature and tourists).

4.  Lviv - Never been but two adventurous UW told me I must see the Carpathian mountains with areas of virgin forest and trekking trails, plus the people are different.

Ooops, I cheated.  I gave you 4.  And if you have two months, you should see all four.

Now if you really wish to experience history, there is Chornobyl, some battlefields, etc.  And if gardens appeal to you there is Uman.  These can be day or weekend trips.

It all depends upon what you want to do. If it is primarily to meet UW and to spend two months getting to know a select one or a few, I would start writing UW and let those results guide my travels.