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Offline smilingjake

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Freshman Sticks "foot in mouth"
« on: September 05, 2007, 01:13:57 PM »
I was recently researching the city of the gal to whom I am writing. While doing this I also found that an agency recently had a tour there (Nizhny Novgorod).
In my next letter I asked her if she had ever attended any of the socials and if she had what were her thoughts about them?
She informed me that she does not attend socials or care to do so as they are "window shopping", too few many men with too many women, furthermore, since I asked I must have attended them and did I feel like the "hunter" or the "prey". I informed her I have never been to FSU nor ever attended socials. I guess I touched a nerve!!

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Re: Freshman Sticks "foot in mouth"
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2007, 01:17:13 PM »
Yeah, many ladies believe that socials are only for prostitutes and other low class women. Don't worry about it too much.

Ken

P. S. Oh yeah, you might want to develop a taste for "foot in mouth" as you'll end up doing it quite a few times...  :D
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Re: Freshman Sticks "foot in mouth"
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2007, 01:18:48 PM »
Before asking her you might have searched here on the common opinion on socials. You would have understood it was better not to write about them. By the way this has left her suspicious of you. If you read about socials it means you might be interested in meeting other women if you manage to make a trip. You will be watched like a hawk in the next couple of letters.  ;)
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Re: Freshman Sticks "foot in mouth"
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2007, 05:23:04 PM »
If you need any info on the city, let me know. My wife is from a small town just north of there and I have a ton of links and other resources. It is a beautiful city, and one of the few with direct connections from Frankfurt rather than doing the SVO II - SVO I shuffle
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Re: Freshman Sticks "foot in mouth"
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2007, 07:27:45 PM »
SJ,
Welcome.
Most women think of socials the same as her.  Most men think they paid too much and found it hard to meet the good women at the socials.  Look over the forums, remember to add a grain of salt or two.  Much good info here.  I'm sure a good woman appreciates your asking and won't hold it against you for too long  ;).  Yeah foot in the mouth occasionally repeats on the menu.

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Re: Freshman Sticks "foot in mouth"
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2007, 10:29:35 PM »
Keep Smiling Smiling Jake, No problem.  Important to be positive.

Just tell her:

After you told me your opinion regarding socials, I researched the topic and I understand why you feel that way about them.  They are awful - for both the man as well as the woman. 

A woman would feel like she is a horse being paraded at an auction.  Only a weak man would enjoy placing women at such a disadvantage.  A social is not for me; I prefer concentrating on one woman.

Rather than continuing to write long letters, I hope that I can talk with you by telephone.  It would be fantastic to hear your voice.  If you agree that telephoning is best, please email your number and tell me the best times to call. 

[Jake, if you are not telephoning her, now is the time to start.  Most of these women have little time for letter writing.]

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Re: Freshman Sticks "foot in mouth"
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2007, 05:03:44 AM »
Jake you are a little new here so before I say this I will say that Gator is virtually always right and gives amazing advice.   I am saying this because here he is right as usual but I am going to qualify what he says a little. 

When Gator says they are awful for the man and the woman he is right.  I have done three big agency socials in the days before I found RWD.  Most of the guys here are smarter than that.   Where I will differ a little is at the time you do them you think they are wonderful.  It is not till after that you find out they really are awful.

From a woman's point of view.  I have talked to a lot of women at the socials and who have attended them.  For a sincere woman I have seen them take long train rides perhaps traveling 24 hours each way, get all dressed up and go to a social where the women were 10 to one and not one man talked to them.   Yes, if they are 24 and hot they will have a waiting list of guys to talk to, mostly older, overweight but sincere men.  Most felt like they were cattle for sale. 

One of the biggest problems for men is weeding out the scammers and serial daters and finding a good woman who is into them and has the right motives.   One of the biggest problems for the men comes from the fact that they take women off the street.   I have walked around town and seen signs, women, come to the social tonight and meet foreign men for romance.   If a girl is a scammer or serial dater it does not take them too long to find out that the socials are mostly uninformed new men who were recruited from ads in USA today and they don't know much except the agency hype.   You can translate that to "men who are an easy mark". 

I came back from the first of the three big agency socials with what I thought would end up being my fiancee.  She was a pretty 38 year old blond from Southern Ukraine that I met at the social in Moscow.   I wondered a little about why she came to a social in Moscow when they had them much closer but she said she had friends there she happened to be visiting.   What I was able to put together later with the help of some friends was that she traveled the social circut collecting fiancee's the way some collect stamps.   If you have enough men sending you two or three hundred dollars a month for English lessons and other excuses you could live quite well.  Most all the guys came back happy and thinking they had found their woman.  I stayed in touch with several and am still in touch with most of those.  Not one ended up with a bride.   Smart men, such as those who have found RWD know it is not a way to meet good women.   Smart women figure out pretty quickly that it is also not a way to meet good men.   If I count follow up visits I probably spent $ 25,000 and came away with a few kisses on the cheek and a big chunk of time wasted that I could have been using good methods to meet sincere women had I been smart enough. 

That is the story on socials.   

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Re: Freshman Sticks "foot in mouth"
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2007, 04:21:19 PM »
Thanks for all of the insight and learned knowledge to everyone who posts their thoughts and suggestions. It is greatly appreciated from this end. I believe I have smoothed things over, I informed her that I was seeking her opinion on socials, that I am corresponding with only her (A true fact) and that I prefer to save my correspondence credits to write to her only as their so much I wish to learn about her. This seemed to please her immensely. I have always felt more comfortable being the WOVO kind of guy. I've never been good at multi tasking with numerous women, but thats just me.
Jake -- still smiling :)

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Re: Freshman Sticks "foot in mouth"
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2007, 04:49:30 PM »
Good going Jake.  Turbo and Gator have the greatest insight on the socials.  Gator can provide to you his extensive experience on your quest.

 

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