How common is this ESP thing in RW?

[Ronnie]

It was my first trip to FSU in 2002.  My WOVO went bust and I decided to call the plan B lady whom I had only written one introductory letter.  Truthfully, there was no plan B until Plan A failed.  .  Like many, I went over completely in the dark..no RWG/RWD, no nothin.

Back to that phone call to Vika.  When I called, Vika answered with an obviously excited voice.  I recall that fact distinctly.  She said, "Ronnie, I knew you were going to call!"  Yeah, yeah, that's what they all say, right?  Well, we met several times that trip and I returned a month later and we became an item.  It was during this time that she explained that she had inherited from her grandmother a gift of "extra sense" or what we call ESP.

She explained that the day I first called, she woke up that day with the certain knowledge that I would call.  So she went to her mother's house 2 km away where the family's only phone was located, called in sick to work and sat in the apartment waiting for the call that did in fact come.  She related other experiences that I deemed credible where she knew something important would happen and so changed her routine to accomodate the event.

I didn't fully buy into it.  We spent a lot of time together over the next several weeks, in fact, she took a leave of absence from her nursing job to be with me every day.  We were in my apartment one morning, she in the kitchen and I in the living room.  Certain events had transpired with Vika that led me to conclude that she was not the best match for me and I should end the relationship.  At that precise moment, she rushed into the room.  "Ronnie, I have to call my home..something bad has happened.  It may be my brother.  I must call now!"  She called home to learn that all was well there.  Then she looked at me and said in a solemn, quiet voice, "it's us." 

I was stunned.  My skin turned to gooseflesh at the eerieness of it.  I denied anything was wrong, but she knew.  I didn't have the guts to tell her the truth, but as we parted at the airport the next day, I could see in her eyes she knew she'd never see me again.  When I got home, I wrote her the letter....a letter she undoubtedly didn't have to open.

[Lily]

Ronnie, I'd say a number of women in Russia have at least an interest to 'extrasensitiveness'. They find it exciting and eventually useful. Some think they possess this quality indeed. How many are really naturally gifted, no idea.

[Ronnie]

On a later trip, I met a lady doctor who owned her own clinic.  She eventually became my first K-1 that failed on the 78th day, when I realized I could not deal with her two teenage daughters from hell.

Before leaving for the states, Sveta told me she wanted me to meet with a "consultant" who could help me with my relationship with my children who were strongly opposed to my international wife search.  When I finally learned that the "consultant" was a psychic, I resisted fiercely but seeing the disappointment on Sveta's face I relented and decided to prove the psychic to be a fraud.

Now I had seen these psychics on TV and they never seem to say anthing specific and let the subject essentially tell them what they needed to know.  This lady, asked me no questions.  She dimmed the room, lit some candles, placed icons around the room and did an eerie chant.  Her son was there to interpret but it turned out we didn't need him.  After the ritual with the candles, she told me some things that I couldn't prove or disprove on the spot about my relationship with my son.  So I decided to ask her some questions.  She nailed every one of them.  I then asked her about my ex - could I trust her to be honest in our property settlement as our divorce was bifurcated.  She said "no" which I took as a logical guess but wrong in my case.  It turned out some months later that she was right about that too.  I asked her if my ex had been faithful (knowing she always had been).  She said, "no..there is and has been another man."  I later learned she was correct on that one too.

At the end of the seance, she said, "I'm worried about you"  "I see your car in an accident, maybe it's in the past..I see your car hit in the rear."  I said, I'd never been involved in any accident in my life but as long as she could "see" could she describe the car.  "I don't know cars," "she said, but it's red in color."  Lucky guess, I thought, red's not that uncommon.  Then she said something that made the hair on my neck stand up, "I see a snake and a cross."  I felt ill.  How could this be?  How could this woman see my car?  Only about 1 in every 50,000 cars in America is an Alfa Romeo - a car which was originally made in Milan, Italy and bears the logo that is the badge of the city of Milan - a crowned serpent swallowing a man on the right half of a divided sphere and a plain red cross on a field of white occuping the left half.

A little over a year later, I was driving my Alfa on the freeway in Arizona when I saw a truck closing in through my rear view mirror.  As the space between the truck and myself closed to a few feet I swerved to the shoulder reducing the damage to the left rear quarter panel.

The lady said she inherited he gift from her grandmother, she said that it seems to skip a generation.  I just wish I understood how it worked.  Ladies, is this common in Russia?

[Lily]

Well, i sometimes hear women here and there who are similar to what you tell now. Thanks God they don't belong to where I am, otherwise I just could not bear it. 

[Ronnie]

I could not live with such a lady, I'm afraid.

[Russiangirl]

Ladies, is this common in Russia?

Unfortunately, yes. I personally am not buying any of it (besides common female intuition), but tons of Russian women do believe in "extrasensory abilities", magic, sorcery, and all kind of weird stuff. Go figure.

I woudn't worry about it, though. Treat it as children believing in Santa Claus. If they enjoy it, who cares?

[groovlstk]

My wife believes 100% in such phenomena, and at the beginning of our relationship it was probably the biggest wall between us, as I'm a skeptical person by nature and have no tolerance for such BS.

With a little prodding (hint, hint), I can be persuaded to tell a story about a situation that has caused me to at least bite my tongue when she insists on watching her Russian "extrasense" programs.   

[SANDRO43]

With a little prodding (hint, hint), I can be persuaded to tell a story about a situation that has caused me to at least bite my tongue when she insists on watching her Russian "extrasense" programs.   

Prod, prod ....

[myrddin]

Prod, prod ....

Hey, that's exactly what I was gonna say! 

[viking]

Do tell, do tell.

[Ronnie]

As I posted earlier, I, the biggest skeptic this side of the Atlantic was stunned by the accuracy of the professional psychic and the events with my first RW GF.

I can no longer say BS.  I think some of these people have some extra sensory perception and are able to see or feel things others can't.
I don't like to even think about being around someone who has that.  Gives me the creeps.

I'll add my prod.

[catzenmouse]

PROD --> Groove! Wake Up! <-- PROD (Big Blue Reference There...)

I've been amazed multiple times by my wife's dreams and how within a few days something will happen that she told me about from her dream so I've moved from the highly skeptical crowd to the believing there is something to this crowd.

[groovlstk]

I'll get to this as soon as I can, it's sort of a long story. For now, here's a quick recount my first exposure to this sort of thing: Shortly before I was to fly to Moscow to accompany my wife to the US, she phoned me in a bad state one evening saying she'd just awoken from a dream in which I had only one arm. She implored me to be careful, that something bad might happen to me resulting in an injury. I laughed it off and briefly thought of sending her a photo of myself with one arm hidden behind my back, but she was genuinely upset so I assured her I'd be careful and then (for once) I simply shut up.

Shortly after she arrived I began experiencing pain in my right elbow. I ignored it for awhile but it grew worse and I couldn't hide it from my wife for long. Of course she thought it was cancer or something equally dreadful when the reality was simple tennis elbow. I feel like a wuss for even complaining about it, but for weeks I couldn't grip a pen without breaking into a sweat.

I don't know what pissed me off more: the nagging pain or the fact that my wife's "prediction" had sort of come true. I'm sure it was nothing more than a coincidence but the timing was eerie; coupled with some other stuff that happened which I'll detail later, I've learned to keep quiet no matter how skeptical I feel about such things.

[KenC]

I have had more than one incident like Groov's with regard to Lena.  I am as big a skeptic as they come, but sometimes it is a little scary.  And then there was the time that Lena circled our house 3 times carrying an Icon just before we were evacuated due to the wildfires here.  Of course our house was OK.  As for me, I will invest in a firehose to hook up to the hydrant before I believe her actions had anything to do with anything.
KenC

[BC]

I've learned to keep an open mind (and my mouth shut) about such things..

After all, I live in the twilight zone.

nee ner nee ner....

[Blues Fairy]

I, the biggest skeptic this side of the Atlantic

 

[viking]

This is not limited to RW. A young AW coworker of mine, some time ago, admitted to me that her mother was a witch and she inherited some of her powers. Gimme a break! Right? She said she had healing powers. Ok. I'll bite. My shoulder was sore. Had been for some time. I asked her to fix it. So...she crossed the first finger of each hand (like a cross) and placed them about 2 inches from my shoulder. All of a sudden this amazing heat ripped through my shoulder!!! I was stunned. This lasted about a minute or so and then she stopped. The heat went away and my shoulder was fine. No pain. I felt her hands and they were as warm as my shoulder. Go figure.

[Ronnie]

This is not limited to RW. A young AW coworker of mine, some time ago, admitted to me that her mother was a witch and she inherited some of her powers. Gimme a break! Right? She said she had healing powers. Ok. I'll bite. My shoulder was sore. Had been for some time. I asked her to fix it. So...she crossed the first finger of each hand (like a cross) and placed them about 2 inches from my shoulder. All of a sudden this amazing heat ripped through my shoulder!!! I was stunned. This lasted about a minute or so and then she stopped. The heat went away and my shoulder was fine. No pain. I felt her hands and they were as warm as my shoulder. Go figure.

Viking! how far away from Southern California do you live?  Maybe your co-worker can save me from rotator cuff surgery this fall!

Whaaaaat?  What are you laughing at Ms. Blues Fairy?

[viking]

Ronnie, I am a 10 minute walk from the Atlantic Ocean, in NY. Can't get much further away unless I start swimming!! Sorry about your shoulder but I have not seen this woman in many years.