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Offline Ravens9273

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« on: August 13, 2008, 03:31:29 PM »
I am currently on vacation at Myrtle Beach, South Carolina.

I do not know how many here are familiar with Myrtle Beach. Personally it is my first time here. However I will say this. For anyone looking to meet Russian Women do not have to travel to Russia or Ukraine to do so. They are all right here.

I am amazed at how many young Russian ladies are here. Every store, restaurant, and even gas stations it is nothing but Russian Women working here. I spoke to a few and they said they are here on exchange visa's (student) for the summer.

Locals say that all summer the city is full of Russian Girls. They are the ones who have all the jobs.

I am begining to wonder if Ocean City is the same yet I never paid attention to it before.

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Re: Russian America
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2008, 07:49:34 PM »
Ravens,

On the flight back from Kiev in May, the flight was full of students working in amusement parks, etc.  The girl sitting next to me was going to Hard Rock in Myrtle Beach.  It is very common to use foreign students, I live near an amusement park myself.  On the change at Paris, we were running tight, there was a guide to take us from one plane to the other.  as everyone was walking on the side, I decided to take the moving escalator thingy.  The students were staring at me and I decided to preach..."You think you are here for holiday, You are here because Americans are lazy and do not want to do the work you will be doing.  You are having fun now, lets see how you feel at the end of the summer!". 

In conclusion, I don't think Myrtle Beach is Little Kiev.

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Re: Russian America
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2008, 07:55:38 PM »
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You are having fun now, lets see how you feel at the end of the summer!". 

meaning what?

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Re: Russian America
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2008, 09:33:21 PM »
When Robert and I spent our vacation at Sea World and Discovery Cove in Florida we also met many Russian students - boys and girls, who works during the summer there.

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Re: Russian America
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2008, 12:30:40 AM »
Ravens,

On the flight back from Kiev in May, the flight was full of students working in amusement parks, etc.  The girl sitting next to me was going to Hard Rock in Myrtle Beach.  It is very common to use foreign students, I live near an amusement park myself.  On the change at Paris, we were running tight, there was a guide to take us from one plane to the other.  as everyone was walking on the side, I decided to take the moving escalator thingy.  The students were staring at me and I decided to preach..."You think you are here for holiday, You are here because Americans are lazy and do not want to do the work you will be doing.  You are having fun now, lets see how you feel at the end of the summer!". 

In conclusion, I don't think Myrtle Beach is Little Kiev.

Ben Armen

I have no idea what this means or the tone in which it was delivered...was this intended to be funny?  Americans work more hours per year than any country in Europe except Greece and the Czech Republic.  I assume he was trying to make a joke.
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Re: Russian America
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2008, 11:30:44 AM »
In a worldly point of view, Americans do work more that most countries.  However there are many occupations that are below the standards of the American teenager, such as gas station attendant, dish washer and amusement park attendant.  That is why many foreigners have these jobs.  These jobs are very demanding dealing with the moody public.  They will return after the summer very tired.  I hope this clarifies these questions.

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Re: Russian America
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2008, 12:04:33 PM »
When I was at Lake Tahoe last summer, a lot of the shops and hotels had students from Poland, Russia, and elsewhere working there. 

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Re: Russian America
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2008, 01:50:51 PM »
In a worldly point of view, Americans do work more that most countries.  However there are many occupations that are below the standards of the American teenager, such as gas station attendant, dish washer and amusement park attendant.  That is why many foreigners have these jobs.  These jobs are very demanding dealing with the moody public.  They will return after the summer very tired.  I hope this clarifies these questions.
Not true.  American teenagers can be found doing all kinds of work.  What is happening in America and elsewhere now is an over emphasis on getting a college degree while ignoring the many apprenticeship opportunities that are out there in the various trades.
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Re: Russian America
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2008, 02:10:23 PM »
In a worldly point of view, Americans do work more that most countries.  However there are many occupations that are below the standards of the American teenager, such as gas station attendant, dish washer and amusement park attendant.  That is why many foreigners have these jobs.  These jobs are very demanding dealing with the moody public.


Americans, demanding and moody. How dare you?

You forgot pampered.  :P

They will return after the summer very tired.  I hope this clarifies these questions.

The fact is many are 20-22 yrs old, and have never been out of their country with the possible exception of Egypt or Turkey. America is still quite an adventure for many Russians, especially the younger crowd.

At 20, I would have loved to travel to Russia for the summer and hang out with young people regardless if I work at Rosticks, and then return home to finish my education. Talk about an education on life and an experience of a lifetime. 

Most I have talked to here who have been through the exchange programs really enjoyed their time in America, and would do it again in a heartbeat. Even if  the arrangements many are given are not so great (Lake Tahoe notwithstanding).

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Re: Russian America
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2008, 02:15:58 PM »
Ronnie,

Let me ask you this... When was the last time you went to a restaurant and saw a 20-22 yo dishwasher, or a college student pumping gas?  Just doesnt happen anymore, but they are at the beach!  Even Bush said we need the illegals to fill the jobs that nobody else wants.  I don't agree with it, and I don't want to harbor the point, but that is why FSU students are here for the summer!!!

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Re: Russian America
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2008, 02:49:09 PM »
When I was at Lake Tahoe last summer, a lot of the shops and hotels had students from Poland, Russia, and elsewhere working there. 

My wife gave a bunch of RU books she read to a RU gal working at the local sub sandwich place last time we visited (east coast vacation locale).

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Re: Russian America
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2008, 02:52:14 PM »
Ronnie,

Let me ask you this... When was the last time you went to a restaurant and saw a 20-22 yo dishwasher, or a college student pumping gas?  Just doesnt happen anymore, but they are at the beach!  Even Bush said we need the illegals to fill the jobs that nobody else wants.  I don't agree with it, and I don't want to harbor the point, but that is why FSU students are here for the summer!!!
Well since I WAS a dishwasher in the college cafeteria when I was student, I know a lot of things have changed.  But I do know that that same university is still hiring students to do all that work, including gardening, window washing, etc.

Pumping gas...Are they really doing that again?  Happy Days are back? Where? I wanna move there!

Minumum wage jobs are hard to find these days in Southern California.  Of the three Russian students we know only one found a job at the local Dairy Queen.  If you want to see American teenagers flipping burgers, you'll have to go to an In-n-Out Burger where they pay $10-$12 and hour or try Starbucks where even part time employees get medical coverage.

The problem isn't with the American youth.  It' with the current government administration who thinks the US needs foreign labor owing to a perceived "labor shortage"  Shortages only exist where employer won't offer decent pay.  Here, there are a shortage of jobs, not labor.

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Re: Russian America
« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2008, 03:05:45 PM »
Well since I WAS a dishwasher in the college cafeteria when I was student, I know a lot of things have changed.  But I do know that that same university is still hiring students to do all that work, including gardening, window washing, etc.


Ronnie,

Did the same.. but that was back in 78 or so.. when were you scraping?  I have no idea what the situation is today, but would guess that the students have first dibs on campus jobs..  and under the economic circumstances many probably need those jobs nowdays.

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Re: Russian America
« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2008, 06:27:45 PM »
College campuses are part of the college work study program which the wages are directly added to tuition tax free.  You will see them file papers in the admissions office etc, but the cafeterias are outsourced to large companies like Aramark, and the best way to talk to the dishwasher is to speak Spanish, why?  It is below the standards of any American born Caucasian or other race.  Things have changed a lot since your first HS assembly (the year my parents were married.)

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Re: Russian America
« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2008, 08:47:38 PM »
My alma mater does not farm out services.  The hire students for all part-time jobs and full time goes to local residents.  On the other side of the conveyer belt from me was a student from France.  So we did not speak Spanish.  We passed the time with him teaching me French (which I don't claim to be able to speak).

You may not have In-n-Out Burgers where you live, but believe me it's an English only fast food restaurant and employs native born Americans (not that that is a requirement).  When the pay is sufficient Americans can and will do any work.

Here's a bunch of spoiled American boys for you Ben..

http://www.trutv.com/shows/black_gold/
Ronnie
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