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Offline Muddy

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VOIP Ukraine
« on: August 13, 2008, 04:24:33 PM »
Are there any voip systems like spyke, vonage that cover Ukraine? Odessa region?
I am using wdt at this time

Offline Diplomacy

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Re: VOIP Ukraine
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2008, 07:07:02 AM »
Skype is free to another Skype computer.  I am going to see where we can get with that on my trip.  IMO the Skype clarity on my computer is worth the $.16 a minute versus the calling cards.

We both can hear so much better.  Now the Networking infrastructure is the real issue.  What data speed is available to the home.  The mobile phone modems are getting faster and I have read that you can use skype on a computer via a mobile phone as a modem.

That should be real interesting lol.  I will let you know how it goes.  I am setting my friend up this week that is OMG.  This way his phone bills will be lowered also, if I can get this to work. 

IM works for sure, and we were able to communicate on our own and make that work lol. 

I am using SMS,IM,email,phone, and now we try VoIP.  You should have seen me try to explain a blackberry lol.  I think she was thinking for an hour I liked the fruit.  Vwhaaaat?  You speak nonsense about fruit and computer at same time. 

I got to admit though, I just laugh and go with the conversation as she sees it.

Yesterday, I asked if her parents met my friend.  Reply was yes she met Don's wifes mother, they were great friends until she moved to the USA.  She is a vonderful voman and she misses it great lately.

I should bring her a gift when I visit this veek.  She much admires it. :cluebat:


Offline ConnerVT

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Re: VOIP Ukraine
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2008, 12:39:37 PM »
It all depends on the cost, availability, and quality of the Internet on the woman's end.  Don't assume that the Internet in the FSU is the same as it is in the suburbs of Boise, Idaho.

Cost - Internet providers in the FSU rarely offer one price, unlimited access.  Dial up charges by connection time (with different rates for peak/off-peak times), and DSL may also have a very low data cap, with addition upload/download data costing additional.  Cellular data plans also are pricey, and many carriers will either block or penalize users that use VoIP over their cellular networks (after all, they are in the voice communications business!).  Just because you have a lower cost on your end, doesn't always make it less expensive.  You may just be offsetting the cost to the other end, to someone whom is less able to afford it.

Availability - Broadband Internet (and even wired landline telephones) are not available everywhere.  My wife's parents, who live in a good size city, only got a wired telephone a few years ago.  There wasn't even telephone wiring on their street (one block away from a major road).  They had to find nearly a dozen other homes willing to pay the TelCo company to run the wiring so they could get telephone service.

Quality - The standard format for VoIP telephone calls is the g.711 codec, which requires around 80-100 kbps (nearly double what a dial-up modem can do).  There are other formats that use less bandwidth by compressing data, but sound quality suffers.  Skype uses proprietary codecs, which may compress enough for use on dial-up, but it still will take a quality hit.  Most people experienced with VoIP networks (and I know a number of them) don't recommend VoIP if dial-up is used.

One issue to watch with Skype is that it also uses bandwidth when the user isn't on the phone.  There have been reports of people running Skype finding that it used 2.5GB/month as a 'Super Node'.  If you are paying your ISP for data used, one could find an expensive bill waiting for them.

Paying $0.16/min is also an expensive rate.  As someone who has been calling Russia daily for nearly 5 years, you can get the same or better quality for less than half that price (7 to 10 cent/min to Ukraine).  I'll attach two links to the VoIP providers I use.  You can either 'geek out' (like I did) and integrate it into your home telephone system, or you can use a soft phone program (similar to Skype).  Or you can use them as a calling card, where they know your caller ID (no PINS to enter).  If you are on the road, and can't dial out on the available phone, you can enter your telephone number and your woman's number on their web page, and they call both of the phones.  All without the service fees and connection charge junk the calling cards throw at you.

http://www.future-nine.com/A2BCustomer_UI/rates.php

http://www.voipstunt.com/en/index.html

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Re: VOIP Ukraine
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2008, 02:33:21 PM »
Thanks Conner, you just saved my a bunch of money on my FSU insurance.  I will check it all out, this is a whole new experience for me.  This site is a lifesaver. 

 

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