Some thoughts by an ex-newbie

[diverboy70]

I was thinking that I would write down some thoughts about my journey with FSU women, when I right now am going in for the second round. You tend to learn a bit on your way! 

My first contact with the concept of FSU women were A-web. This was when I still was married. Off course I didn’t sign up then, but the thought was born. I might say that the marriage was a disaster during the last year.

Anyway, after the divorce I was lucky enough to find this site before I did anything foolish with A-web. I signed up for Elenas Models and for bride.ru and I also used freepersonals.ru instead. 

I used the gun-shot method and sent a lot of prewritten letters to a lot of women. Off course this will decrease your response rate, but I wanted a wider selection. And the response rate at sites as bride.ru is anyway quite low.

The first time around I spent a lot of time writing to obvious scammers. I didn’t know better then, I didn’t know what to look out for. Then I met J. She didn’t want to e-mail, but gave me her msn and phone number really soon. I good sign, I know now! It was such obvious after that!

Soon I stopped communicating with any other girls, and focused on J. We had four meetings, but it became apparent that we weren’t right for each other.

So now I’m in for the second round! And a little bit wiser. First of all I think I can spot a lot of the scammers early on now. There are a few first precautions you can take. If they have x-mailer: the Bat professional: Beware! The favourite tool of “Yuri the scammer” Also letter expressing a lot of feelings, early on, is something to be wary about!

Ask questions! If you don’t get any answer, ask if you can call her! You will never hear from that scammer again. If she says her mobile is stolen, watch out! I heard that a lot of times!

And don’t spend your time just sending a lot of e-mails. Get to it, show that you are serious and call her! And go visit her within two months!

The visiting part is SO important. I’m right now communicating with a girl, who in her second letter asked when I will come and visit here and suggested a date in the end of September. I answered I couldn’t come really that soon and that I need to get to know her a little bit better before, BUT that I would come during this autumn if I felt there would be a connection. I just got short e-mails messages back. But since she really seems to be a 10, I called her tonight, she was really surprised, but happy that I called. She was at work, but we will talk again this weekend. Remember the really attractive girls get a lot of e-mails and most of them want more than just e-mails. There are a lot of guys promising a lot but that deliver nothing. You have to show that you are different, and just words wont do!

And my final point: You will not get a 20 year younger attractive girl in the FSU just by your passport anymore. Or yes you can get some of them, but then you have to have a big check account to go with that passport. Treat this as any dating you would do at home, just a “bit” more difficult! If you are an honest guy and if you are persistent I think you will succeed, but never think this is the easy way to find a girl!

Since I have a 3-year old son that lives with me and that is a very important part of my life, I mention this in my introduction-letter. This time this has lead to the result that I have gotten some really serious responses from women who also have children. And it automatically leads to some common interests to talk about. They are really attractive women in the mid 20:s but maybe are maybe passed over by guys afraid of getting a kid in the deal.

This was just thoughts I have. I guess the more experienced guys here can give some more input!

[BillyB]

Since I have a 3-year old son that lives with me and that is a very important part of my life, I mention this in my introduction-letter.

It's good that you mentioned you have a son in your intro letter. Ladies who can't deal with it won't waste your or their time writing back to you. Letters are a tool not only to get to know someone but filter out the ones you shouldn't be messing with. Then you can move on to calls to gauge the woman's enthusiasm in wanting to know you. In many failed trip reports I read, the guys never called the women they were visiting and found out the conversation they had with their women was dull when they did visit. A $3 call could have save them $3000+ from going on a doomed vacation. If a woman is truly interested in you, she'll want to hear your voice. Make the call before buying the ticket.

Guys should make their initial letter 1 page or less and get to the point and lay the facts out about yourself and what you are looking for. Of course laying out the facts will get you less response than if you portray yourself in better light but it will prevent you from wasting time from getting dumped when the facts eventually come out later. Based on what you say, the ladies will decide if they can't accept you and kids if you have them. Scammers are easy to detect. they will fall in love with you, answer few or none of your questions, talk about problems in their life that's solved with money and send you long winded cut and paste letters. They don't even need to ask for money. There are enough willing men who want to be heroes that will send money to a damsel in distress even though he never met him her.

[diverboy70]

Billy:

I know, from reading your posts, that you also went for the "shotgun" approach. Did you ever meet these women that just keep on writing and answers your questions, but never wants to talk on the phone. Seems wiered to me, not really scammers but not real either.

[BillyB]

Did you ever meet these women that just keep on writing and answers your questions, but never wants to talk on the phone.

One woman I wrote to did write me regularly and wasn't a scammer but ignored my request to call her. When I told her that I chose to meet another woman and didn't want to waste her time corresponding but if it didn't work out, I asked if I could correspond with her again. She then sent me her mobile and home numbers. Too late to show me she's serioius. I would never visit any woman who did not want to talk to me on the phone. If a woman gives me her number, it not only shows she's interested in me, it shows she's willing to invest some of her personal time too. I understand women don't want to give their number to every guy out there but she will give her number to her favorite men. If a woman doesn't have me down as one of her favorites, then I need to look for one who will have me as one of her favorites. There are some scammers who will give out their number but if you call often, they can't maintain a high level of enthusiam unless you send them money.

Here's a tip a guy might be writing to a scammer. Watch out if a woman asks you to write to a different email address after your initial letter. She/He has one email address for intiial letters and another for those guys who are hooked on them. They will tell you that they are writing to only you. If you send them an intro letter from another email account posing as another guy, they will turn that guy down making you feel good that they are honest that they past the test.

[viking]

Some of these ladies are smart and know how to look up an IP address. Even if you write to them from several different email accounts of profiles, your IP address remains the same if you are using the same computer. They can very quickly figure out you are the same person.