Going to Kiev!!!

[jb]

You people traveling to Ukraine are getting into a whole 'nother world from what I'm used to.  Since we (my wife and I) knew each other from another kind of meeting, it never entered my mind to try to buy her affection, because I just knew she wasn't for sale.  I'm not accustomed to dealing with a woman so "church mouse poor" that I would have to wrestle with a problem like that.  She also worked as a translator, so I never had to deal with a third person at the table to communicate.  Frankly, I do not see how you do this with any degree of success.  My hat's off to you who are able to determine that thing called "chemistry" if you cannot even do small talk without the aid of an interpreter.

That's got to be the hardest thing in the world.

[Michelangelo]

You people traveling to Ukraine are getting into a whole 'nother world from what I'm used to.  Since we (my wife and I) knew each other from another kind of meeting, it never entered my mind to try to buy her affection, because I just knew she wasn't for sale.  I'm not accustomed to dealing with a woman so "church mouse poor" that I would have to wrestle with a problem like that.  She also worked as a translator, so I never had to deal with a third person at the table to communicate.  Frankly, I do not see how you do this with any degree of success.  My hat's off to you who are able to determine that thing called "chemistry" if you cannot even do small talk without the aid of an interpreter.

That's got to be the hardest thing in the world.

I agree.  This is my fourth attempt.  First I had an interpreter, who knew English better than me!  And all the other girls I saw had a good command of English. Of course, that was one of the things I looked for before writing a girl.  Now, the third girl was with an agency so they provided an interpreter.  That was a bad thing.  It caused focus to shift from me and the girl to the three of us.  Plus, you are now buying dinner for three instead of two.  I got rid of the interpreter and things got a lot better.  

Now, about money.  I think it is proper to send the girl roses and candy and make her feel special.  That is not just a trick.  I will do that to the girl I marry forever...

But from the school of hard knocks, when you start supporting her like she is engaged to you before you take that step, you are being taken advantage of….

[2tallbill]

Michael,
Thanks! Interesting flat. Is that 2 bedrooms, in case we want to sleep separately the first night or two?  -doug L.

Finding/visiting a girl from Aweb is risky, but I would never rent to bedrooms when visiting one girl.
If there is no chemistry, she goes home and sleeps in her own bed. If she is a good girl, she wants
you to seduce her and win her heart. If one or both of you aren't ready, you don't plug tab A into
slot B but you do not need to rent and extra room. All you are doing is confusing the issue. Now
she is thinking, maybe he wants me to sleep in the spare bedroom. She doesn't speak English so
there is no reason to make the situation more complicated.

The OP asked about just wearing sandals with socks for the trip in April to Kiev/Mariupol. The OP
is from Phoenix AZ

Actually a good thread would be what to wear on your feet in the FSU.