The dangers of building an argument on misinformation

[wicheese]

It appears to me that the cam chat requests are automated. The requests come as fast as you can decline them. Decline one and there's immediately another. I assume it's designed software to keeps the girls ringing off the credits. I relatively sure the emails from women are automated as well

FP,

I agree that the chat requests might be automated as you get too many too soon, but I'm thinking that the lady might also queue up those she has on her admirers list (I was added to a lot of them) and when the man comes online they they automatically connected as this would make sense, maybe CEO will come back some day and answer that question.   Based on my experience, I would also doubt that the spam letters are automated beyond someone at the agency (or the lady herself) pumping them out as most ladies only sent me one, others sent me two or three, usually separated by less than a minute.  Also, some of the letters came with an additional picture attached and most without which would also make me think it's not automated as you have to select a picture for a list based on what I could tell.  Almost all came with generic letter contents that could be sent to many men, but the contents of many are specific to a day etc.

Another comment, before shutting down I decided to burn the 10 free intro letters you are provided with (my own form letter with not much more than saying hello) and picked a wide range from age inappropriate to those my age, and of those who I picked from a list who did not contact me first, some left the letters remained unread, others read it and did not respond, and a few replied and even answer the question I had buried in my profile (in other words, it makes me think their are real women on the site as the response rate, or maybe more important the non-response rate, is similar to what I usually had with EM). 

Now, would I recommend this site, nope as it's too hard to get the direct contact info and if you were to write just a few ladies your wallet would be slowly bleed and that's before you even buy your plane ticket.  Plus, it seems like there are far too many non serious women on the site sending you letters (the 18-22 crowd).

 

[facetrock]

  Wicheese. The 18 to 22 year old marathon chatters are the bread and butter money makers for HRB and they know it. If they had to rely on the serious women for income they would be broke in a month. They know that too. If they really wanted to get rid of the non serious paid chatters they could, but like I said they would be broke. I was a member til I was banned. I know what I saw and I know snake oil salesman when I see one.

[wicheese]

  Wicheese. The 18 to 22 year old marathon chatters are the bread and butter money makers for HRB and they know it. If they had to rely on the serious women for income they would be broke in a month. They know that too. If they really wanted to get rid of the non serious paid chatters they could, but like I said they would be broke. I was a member til I was banned. I know what I saw and I know snake oil salesman when I see one.

I agree as there are a lot of things HRB could do to improve the experience for the serious bride seeker, I made a list in the other thread, but I doubt the CEO's participation here was to collect such information as he already knows what he has.

[kievstar]

Running an agency that is 100% for serious marriage men would fail.

Can you marry a RW on HRB? - yes.  Can you find a RW to be a sex tourist on HRB? - yes  Can you get scammed out of money on HRB? - yes.   No different than EM, free personals, or Aweb.

When I opened up HRB and saw the sort by lingerie feature hard to take them more than a porn site.  The next test I did for a week was start a new profile on Aweb and HRB with a photo of a famous ex white football player.  To much activity as women who look that good under 22 years old get chased not sending letters. 

Write never and visit often if your a serious man.  Its faster and cheaper in the long run. 

[TomT]

Had I been involved, I would have opted for two separate sites with different marketing for the two diverse demographic groups. There is no question which site would have been the cash cow but, since it's all on the same platform, the additional operating cost would have been negligable. I wasn't involved.

Things used to be so much simpler in the 'old days': men would obtain postal addresses, they would write long, thoughtful letters of introduction and the most attractive women would ignore them. If you did get a response from a gorgeous woman, the odds were better (worse?) than even that she was a scammer. The progress made since IMBRA is truly astonishing.

[wicheese]

Things used to be so much simpler in the 'old days': men would obtain postal addresses, they would write long, thoughtful letters of introduction and the most attractive women would ignore them. If you did get a response from a gorgeous woman, the odds were better than even that she was a scammer. The progress made since IMBRA is truly astonishing.

You comment does bring back a memory from the mid-1990's as I remember talking to my neighbors and the wife was making fun of her brother who had just received a catalogue of potential Russian Brides.  I guess what had set her off was that most of the women were posing in swimsuits (not too different from many of the profiles on HRB).  So I guess some things never really change, even if everything around it does.

[BC]

Things used to be so much simpler in the 'old days': men would obtain postal addresses, they would write long, thoughtful letters of introduction and the most attractive women would ignore them. If you did get a response from a gorgeous woman, the odds were better (worse?) than even that she was a scammer. The progress made since IMBRA is truly astonishing.

Tom,

The quest for instant satisfaction has indeed left much to be desired.

Maybe a 'niche' market, but I think good a good ol' catalog and licking stamps isn't a bad idea at all.  Folks really have to learn to slow down a bit IMHO and there are better ways.  Think a scammer would even consider sitting down to write a handwritten letter, then go to the hassle of taking it to the post office?

I doubt it..

Such things do make a 'comeback' and maybe the time is quite 'ripe'.

Joint venture anyone?

[TomT]

Think a scammer would even consider sitting down to write a handwritten letter, then go to the hassle of taking it to the post office?

Actually, they did go to the post office. The smart ones probably consolidated their trips and took a dozen letters at a time, though.


By today's standards, the first round of scams was very simple and to the point: an FSU girl would write: "Please send money" and the man would sent it... that's all. There was no needed operation, destitute parents, visa and ticket scam, none of that stuff. Unfortunately, it would take the fool a year or so to find out what was wrong with that picture. We are still fools but, at least, we discover our foolishness more quickly now. I suppose that's progress.