Dating sites for Estonia?

[Mander]

My brother and I plan to go to Tallinn sometime in the near future. In preparation we would like to use a dating site so that we have contact with Estonian ladies in advance. We have found that mamba.ru has very few female Estonian members. Can you recommend what would be a good site to find Estonian ladies?

Many thanks in advance!

[JohnDearGreen]

Why did you choose Tallinn?
Here is a site.  I don't know if it is good or not.
http://dating.viewestonia.com/
I communicated with a Tallinn lady years ago.   
She seemed seriously interested but I never visited there.

[BillyB]

If you can't find enough Estonians on Mamba, then you won't find many at other sites. Most people from the Baltics are patriotic and you won't find many looking for foreigners. Keep in mind, Estonians aren't Russian. There are Russian women living in Estonia and they would be on average more open to foreigners.

[diverboy70]

I dont think there is any "MOB-market" at all in Estonia, especially not in the Tallinn area. And I would say that the Estonians cant really be concidered to be FSU women any more. They are much more westernized and have more in common with the women in Scandinavia and the rest of Europe and ie much more picky in their choise of men. Dating is probably pretty much like dating in any other western European country. Try chatting up women in bars and clubs when there is my best advice.

[LAman]

A good friend of mine met his wife through harmony.....would you believe she was tallin,estonia.
his wife told me girls are very age conscious. What was amazing to me was how easy my friends wife
was able to visit him states when they were dating.

[Manny]

The MOB industry in Estonia is finished now. There are no agencies left. There is still one that has a site up, but the office is empty or a mail-drop or something.

Most women from there, if using a site, use free sites and social networks to meet guys. About a third of women are ethnic Russians, the rest will be Estonian. The two do differ in mentality.

As mentioned above, the Estonian women are very patriotic are are mostly pretending to be Scandinavian nowadays. Forget big age gaps unless you speak the language, are resident and rich.

If seeking to meet women as possible wife material, you will likely only find the odd one in the towns in the South like Parnu or Saku. Narva by the Russian border is like the land that time forgot too - very grim. Nearby Tallinn, there is a poor Russian district called Lasnamäe. Look there if you want. But keep your wits about you.

If in Tallinn, most women are not interested in foreigners. They see enough Stag weekends to put them off for life. What there is in Tallinn is a lot of hookers and party girls who look for foreign idiots to fleece. There are also many hookers from Ukraine and Belarus who sneak in on student visas. They may accost you in the street in the evening in the Old Town if they think you look like a sucker.

[Mander]

This is a great forum, with the number of quick helpful replies. I read them with great interest.

If you can't find enough Estonians on Mamba, then you won't find many at other sites.

The number of interesting women from the Ukraine that are on mamba/koketochka is way more than the Estonian women on mamba. There have to be other free dating sites that are being used.

Most women from there, if using a site, use free sites and social networks to meet guys.

Do you know which are used most?
I'm not looking for agencies. It seems to me that many agencies pimp up profiles and correspondence. We are looking to start up some online conversation and arrange some meetings and take it from there.

Why did you choose Tallinn?

We choose Estonia because we heard good things about it when we were in the Ukraine. Fellow travelers told us their experience that Estonian women were much more approachable than Ukrainian women. An Ukrainian women may show her interest by giving you a sign or dancing next to you, but then not giving you another look.  And when you offer them a drink they could just walk away without a word. We had a hard time to figure things out in the Ukraine. (at least in the beginning) As Estonia is much more European / western we hope this will be more successful.
Another reason is that Estonia is EU, and that makes things much more easy if we find girls. (we are from The Netherlands)

[Manny]

Do you know which are used most?

I do, but I am curious as to your motives first. If you are sex tourists, you will be out of luck in Estonia really.

[Eduard]

And I would say that the Estonians cant really be considered to be FSU women any more. They are much more westernized and have more in common with the women in Scandinavia and the rest of Europe

Funny, when I said in another thread that they have more in common with women from Finland (you say Scandinavia) and Germany (you say rest of Europe) I was immediately ridiculed by certain some one for saying that! LOL. But you are right, ethnic Estonians don't have much in common with people in Russia or Ukraine.
Just a bit of trivia: Estonian and Finnish languages have common routs and they can understand each other pretty well.

[Mander]

I do, but I am curious as to your motives first. If you are sex tourists, you will be out of luck in Estonia really.

No. Not sex tourists. I would like to avoid hookers, sex clubs, strip clubs, gold diggers as much as possible.
While we have no problem getting girlfriends in The Netherlands, we are ready to give up on that. We find Slavic women far more beautiful then Dutch women and we also found there to be a large difference between the vast array of psychological complexes of Dutch girls (who try to change who you are) and FSU women who seem to be happy to find a good soulmate that fits her interests and has the basics well covered.

Basically we are two brothers who live successful lives, but miss one important aspect in our lives: A good soul mate to share our lives with. We hope to find women who would be happy with us, and who eventually would come over to the Netherlands. However, Estonia is relatively close and we can be there within a few hours.

We realize that there are cultural differences, language barriers and distance to bridge. But it surely seems worth the effort. I am looking into Russian lessons, after our trip to the Ukraine.

[Manny]

Funny, when I said in another thread that they have more in common with women from Finland (you say Scandinavia) and Germany (you say rest of Europe) I was immediately ridiculed by certain some one for saying that! LOL. But you are right, ethnic Estonians don't have much in common with people in Russia or Ukraine.
Just a bit of trivia: Estonian and Finnish languages have common routs and they can understand each other pretty well.

You spent much time in Estonia Ed?

[Vinnvinny]

No. Not sex tourists. I would like to avoid hookers, sex clubs, strip clubs, gold diggers as much as possible.

The first 3 are relatively easy to avoid, the last one is more tricky.

[Kunstkammer]

We find Slavic women far more beautiful then Dutch women.

Estonians aren't Slavic...

What was amazing to me was how easy my friends wife
was able to visit him states when they were dating.

Why?  It is an EU country in the Visa Waiver Program...

[SteveOR]

 
I was in Tallinn for one day off of a cruise ship a couple of years ago and found it to be a beautiful city.  The old city is a fascinating place to poke around and has good views of the lower city and harbor.  If you're into Soviet memorabilia there are shops in Tallinn that sell it.  I bought a handful of old Soviet political medals from an old lady on the street for a couple of euros.  They look old and worn and of course could be fake but make for an interesting conversation piece.
 
The harbor is a very busy place with a constant flow of ferry boats.  My understanding is that many of them are coming from and going to Helsinki so lots of Finnish influence.
 

[Eduard]

I bought a handful of old Soviet political medals from an old lady on the street for a couple of euros.  They look old and worn and of course could be fake but make for an interesting conversation piece.

Yes, they seem to be a popular item with the tourists and are sold in many places through out the FSU. I have some real ones that were awarded to my grandfather in WWII. They passed on to me when he died.

[Manny]

Estonians aren't Slavic...

Ethnic Estonians perhaps. However, a third of residents are ethnic Russians, many of whom are Slavic. Many of those hold Estonian passports too (not too many grey passport holders left), so depending if you define "Estonian" by citizenship or ethnicity, by at least one count, you are wrong without quantifying it by further explanation.

We live in Estonia part of the year. Trust me, the place is heaving with Slavic women.

You spent much time in Estonia Ed?

I'll take your silence as a no then, Ed.

[Mander]

I do, but I am curious as to your motives first.

Do the above motives explain enough? I'd be interested i learning about the Estonian free dating sites.

[ML]

We choose Estonia because we heard good things about it when we were in the Ukraine. Fellow travelers told us their experience that Estonian women were much more approachable than Ukrainian women. An Ukrainian women may show her interest by giving you a sign or dancing next to you, but then not giving you another look.  And when you offer them a drink they could just walk away without a word. We had a hard time to figure things out in the Ukraine. (at least in the beginning) As Estonia is much more European / western we hope this will be more successful.

Your own thought process is flawed.

You think it will be better to pursue Estonian women rather than Ukrainian women because the EW will be more European/Western.

However, you admit that you don't like the European/Western women that you find at home.

[JR]

I'm confused, you say you like Slavic women more than Scandanavian but you're going to a place with mostly Scandanavians and there you hope to find Slavis ladies?
How about going to a place with lots of Slavic women and changing your approach to something more likely to work in that environment. 

[Kunstkammer]

Ethnic Estonians perhaps. However, a third of residents are ethnic Russians, many of whom are Slavic. Many of those hold Estonian passports too (not too many grey passport holders left), so depending if you define "Estonian" by citizenship or ethnicity, by at least one count, you are wrong without quantifying it by further explanation.

We live in Estonia part of the year. Trust me, the place is heaving with Slavic women.

I'll take your silence as a no then, Ed.

Ethnicity is the only thing that matters.  Its not the United Kingdom or the United States, having say a Russian passport, doesn't make some Tajik Russian. 

[Manny]

Now I know you meant ethnic Estonians, you are right. They are not Slavic. A third of women in Estonia are Slavic though; being of Slavic ethnicity.

The thing is, the OP is unlikely to find many Estonian women around Tallinn interested in him. Less so when they see his passport is bristling with Ukraine stamps - they will just assume he is a sex tourist. The group who are open to foreigners generally in Estonia tend to be Russians. Most of the ones in and around Tallinn will actually live in Lasnamae.

But on the whole, Estonia is not a good place for casual wife hunters seeking a good time along the way. The (non-working) everyday women are very jaded about that now and are alert to it. Estonia has changed a lot in the last ten years.

I think the OP may have more luck back in Ukraine.

[chivo]

IMO Estonia might be the easiest place to meet a woman. I had no trouble at all meeting Russian and Estonian females during my 6 or 7 times there. And I did little to initiate contact but be in their sight. The last time I was in Tallinn was in 2008, so maybe things have changed much since then, but I doubt it.
 
Some would have been open to a relationship had I wanted to persue it, but I had more than enough going on in Moscow.

To the OP, much depends on you of course but if you get out there and understand the place better, I see no reason why it would be difficult meeting women. Most/many speak English and many are looking. Whether they'd want to leave is another thing. Believe me Tallinn is a quaint little place, and many like it there, but I did meet some who wanted to get the hell out. It's a country of about million and half people, not much to do there, especially in winter, and a relatively low income country with regard to work or career.
 

The thing is, the OP is unlikely to find many Estonian women around Tallinn interested in him.

Don't agree but it does depend on him of course
 

Less so when they see his passport is bristling with Ukraine stamps - they will just assume he is a sex tourist.

You know in all my time here I have never shown my passport to anyone, nor has anyone asked to see it. Very strange. It's none of their business and I have no desire to see their's as well.
 

I think the OP may have more luck back in Ukraine.

Could be, I mean bigger country, more available women, but you never know is what I say. There are no doubt women in Tallinn whom he could start a relationship with. As always, it comes down to the man and it only takes one woman to click with.

[Manny]

You know in all my time here I have never shown my passport to anyone, nor has anyone asked to see it. Very strange. It's none of their business and I have no desire to see their's as well.

In my experience, many Russian speaking women from wherever tend to like an opportunity to see a guys passport; some will engineer a conversation with just that in mind. The sole purpose is to see what stamps and visas you have in there. That can be very telling to women sussing out foreign guys.

Estonia began to radically change around 2004 when they got freedom of travel, and more so when they later got the Euro and mostly started pretending to be Swedish. I would say attitudes have changed since 2008, but of course, everyone's experience differs. I know you were in Estonia as we have a mutual acquaintance there, and we have discussed it before, but I know no details of the social circles you were engaged with so I guess its possible our experiences differ. Also, don't you speak Russian? (I don't know if you did then) That opens many doors not usually open to foreigners as you will know living where you live now.

[Mander]

Your own thought process is flawed.

You think it will be better to pursue Estonian women rather than Ukrainian women because the EW will be more European/Western.

However, you admit that you don't like the European/Western women that you find at home.

I think you are misreading my post. We have heard that Estonian women are more approachable than Ukrainian women, and that their culture is between western and FSU. I never said that I didn't like Western or European women. I only mentioned the mentality of Dutch women.

I'm confused, you say you like Slavic women more than Scandanavian but you're going to a place with mostly Scandanavians and there you hope to find Slavis ladies?
How about going to a place with lots of Slavic women and changing your approach to something more likely to work in that environment.

You are right. Sorry to confuse you, as I should have been more clear. My stepmother is from Lithuania and she already verbally bitchslapped me yesterday when I mistakenly called people from the Baltic states Slavic. We like Scandinavian women as well as Slavic women. 

The thing is, the OP is unlikely to find many Estonian women around Tallinn interested in him. Less so when they see his passport is bristling with Ukraine stamps - they will just assume he is a sex tourist. The group who are open to foreigners generally in Estonia tend to be Russians. Most of the ones in and around Tallinn will actually live in Lasnamae.

But on the whole, Estonia is not a good place for casual wife hunters seeking a good time along the way. The (non-working) everyday women are very jaded about that now and are alert to it. Estonia has changed a lot in the last ten years.

I think the OP may have more luck back in Ukraine.

My passport has many stamps from all over the world. I dont think one Ukrainian stamp amongst dozens of other stamps will make a difference. But in all my business and legitimate leisure travels over the years I have never shown my passports to anyone except the customs officer.

IMO Estonia might be the easiest place to meet a woman. I had no trouble at all meeting Russian and Estonian females during my 6 or 7 times there. And I did little to initiate contact but be in their sight. The last time I was in Tallinn was in 2008, so maybe things have changed much since then, but I doubt it.
 
Some would have been open to a relationship had I wanted to persue it, but I had more than enough going on in Moscow.

To the OP, much depends on you of course but if you get out there and understand the place better, I see no reason why it would be difficult meeting women. Most/many speak English and many are looking. Whether they'd want to leave is another thing. Believe me Tallinn is a quaint little place, and many like it there, but I did meet some who wanted to get the hell out. It's a country of about million and half people, not much to do there, especially in winter, and a relatively low income country with regard to work or career.

Thanks for the insights. Do you have any tips and insights about understanding the place better?

In my experience, many Russian speaking women from wherever tend to like an opportunity to see a guys passport; some will engineer a conversation with just that in mind. The sole purpose is to see what stamps and visas you have in there. That can be very telling to women sussing out foreign guys.

Thats very insightful. I experienced this with a girl in Kiev, who asked me for my passport. I declined on the grounds that I did not like my 10 year old passport picture.

Also, don't you speak Russian? (I don't know if you did then) That opens many doors not usually open to foreigners as you will know living where you live now.

I intend to start a Russian course as I like to expand my languages further.