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Keeping Documents after Naturalization?
« on: December 28, 2011, 03:24:58 PM »
Hi Folks,
Anybody have any idea how long we need to keep Nata's documents? Her Naturalization ceromony was this past Feb.
I looked over on Visa Journey but didn't really see any definitive answer.
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Re: Keeping Documents after Naturalization?
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2011, 08:10:19 PM »
Don't ask me. I am a pack rat and have all documents and proof for K-1, DHS for working, AOS and now ROC. Probably keep everything until we move to a smaller place. I just recently threw out 40 years worth of cancelled checks. Do you still have your Grade School yearbook ?   :-[

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Re: Keeping Documents after Naturalization?
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2011, 09:09:48 PM »
I just recently threw out 40 years worth of cancelled checks. Do you still have your Grade School yearbook ?   :-[

Over some months, I went through 30 + years of cancelled checks.  I kept those that pertained to real estate transactions.  Might be needed for IRS audits for X years.  Not sure what X is.  I also kept all the check registers.

I only have a couple of Junior High yearbooks and will give to grandchildren eventually.

I have only 2 school report cards; wish I had more for some reason.  Would be interesting to review my descent from excellent grades into terrible grades when the hormones kicked in.  Luckily I regained my form for University.
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Re: Keeping Documents after Naturalization?
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2011, 06:00:51 AM »
Hi Folks,
Anybody have any idea how long we need to keep Nata's documents? Her Naturalization ceromony was this past Feb.
I looked over on Visa Journey but didn't really see any definitive answer.

I was wondering the same thing myself, although I have not yet reached your stage of the game. If I am going for ROC next year, do I still need my 129f petition..and so forth? Unlike CG and ML here, I have a tendency to get rid of unnecessary things quickly.

ML.I think 7 years is the most the IRS can go back unless there is outright fraud.
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Re: Keeping Documents after Naturalization?
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2011, 11:25:30 AM »
Over some months, I went through 30 + years of cancelled checks.  I kept those that pertained to real estate transactions.  Might be needed for IRS audits for X years.  Not sure what X is.  I also kept all the check registers.

I only have a couple of Junior High yearbooks and will give to grandchildren eventually.

I have only 2 school report cards; wish I had more for some reason.  Would be interesting to review my descent from excellent grades into terrible grades when the hormones kicked in.  Luckily I regained my form for University.

 
Federal individual taxes?
it's not cut and dry  depends on reasonable *intent*
 
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The statute of limitations limits the time during which an action can be brought by the IRS for a tax audit and the time for IRS tax collection activities. Generally, there is a 3-year statute of limitations for the IRS auditing a tax return and a 10-year statute of limitations for the IRS collecting tax.
 

Under section 6501(a) of the Internal Revenue Code (Tax Code) and section 301.6501(a)-1(a) of the Income Tax Regulations (Tax Regulations), the IRS is required to assess tax within 3 years after the tax return was filed with the IRS. Similarly, under 301.6501(a)-1(b) of the Tax Regulations no proceeding in court by the IRS without assessment for the collection of any tax can begin after the expiration of 3 years.
Under section 6501(e) of the Tax Code and section 301.6501(e)-1 of the Tax Regulations the statute of limitations is 6 years if the taxpayer omits additional gross income in excess of 25% of the amount of gross income stated in the tax return filed with the IRS.
If the tax return was prepared by the IRS under the authority of section 6020(b) of the Tax Code the statute of limitations does not apply. See section 6501(b)(3) of the Tax Code and section 301.6501(b)-1(c) of the Tax Regulations.

The statute of limitations does not apply in the case of a false tax return or fraudulent tax return filed with the IRS with intent to evade any tax. See section 6501(c)(1) of the Tax Code and section 301.6501(c)-1 of the Tax Regulations.

For assessments of tax or levy made after November 5, 1990, the IRS cannot either collect or levy any tax 10 years after the date of assessment of tax or levy. See Section 6502(a)(1) of the Tax Code and section 301.6502-1 of the Tax Regulations. Court proceedings must also be started by the IRS within the 10 year statute of limitations. Section 301.6502-1(a)(1) of the Tax  Regulations.

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Re: Keeping Documents after Naturalization?
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2011, 04:35:05 PM »
I am a pack rat and have all documents and proof for K-1 ...
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Re: Keeping Documents after Naturalization?
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2011, 08:05:25 PM »

 
Federal individual taxes?
it's not cut and dry  depends on reasonable *intent*

The statute of limitations does not apply in the case of a false tax return or fraudulent tax return filed with the IRS with intent to evade any tax. See section 6501(c)(1) of the Tax Code and section 301.6501(c)-1 of the Tax Regulations.


Yes, I knew there was something like this.

But the problem is, even when one has never intended to file a false or fraudulent tax return (as is my case) . . . such can always be charged by the IRS.

This is inherent in our very complicated tax code.  Those who only have W-2 earnings and a few other minor things like interest, dividends, etc., cannot believe how contradictory the code can be for other items.

I sold some standing timber from one of my properties a few years back, and I could have filed at least 4 different 1040s with substantially different numbers based on various interpretation of the 6-10 different forms and instruction booklets I was directed to look at and complete.
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