Is ma-dame.net a good one?Should i join?

[fi3000]

 
 
I found http://ma-dame.net/
on google, Should i join or it is not good?
 
If you can help, post or pm.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

[Daveman]

Don't know much about this site but it appears rather typical...

This is in the FAQ:

It is not allowed to give your contact detail (personal Emails, telephone numbers) in the letters to the ladiy and ask contacts of the lady. If you write it in your letter it will be deleted automatically. If you want to have personal correspondence with the lady you can buy her Email contact information.

This is the info about contact cost being the same as an actual meeting:

We are not in the right to give personal private contacts of any our clients without their knowledge. You should be in some kind of relationship with the lady (e-mail correspondence) to order her address, e-mail, phone number. If lady agrees, contact information such as e-mail addresses and phone numbers would cost equal to one meeting. price - Euros 30.

We arrange a personal meeting with the lady. Every meeting is private. It can start in our office, and to be continued in a nice restaurant or a cafe. It's up to you. Price: 30 Euro for the arrangement of one meeting. Your second date with the lady and any subsequent ones are of course are free of charge.

If lady does not speak English, we have interpreters for hire. Price: 10 Euro per hour

We advise you to contact ladies before your coming to Kharkov for personal meetings. Every contact is confidential so you can correspond friendly with more than one lady and they won't know about your other correspondence.

If you have corresponded at least 10 letters with any particular Lady we will arrange the meeting for free.

I couldn't find a cost per letter rate.  Anyhoo this would appear to be a run of the mill pay per fantasy agency (vid chat, phone, gifts, apts, etc) based in Kharkov.
The bread and butter for a site like this is the accumulation of idiots paying for letters/chats/gifts.. If you want to use this, then show up at their office in Kharkov and pay the 30euro a pop meeting fee without wasting time with a bunch of letter writing, et al.
check out the Starting Out section and read the sticky thread FSUW 101.  That'll give you some ideas of how to sensibly go about meeting real ladies.
And... 

[SANDRO43]

fi3000, it looks like your typical pay-per-letter ouftit:

You need to have money on your account to be able to use our services. Send us some money to place in your account, the amount can be anything that you want, but we recommend 25 Euro  minimum  to start using our services. All money on your personal account is only for your personal use to pay for our services, such as correspondence, translation, photography, phone and video chat, flowers and gifts delivery.

Have a look at our Agency Score Card (http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?action=ezportal;sa=page;p=3) for a few pointers on what to consider when dealing with agencies .

[Faux Pas]

Don't know much about this site but it appears rather typical...

This is in the FAQ:



This is the info about contact cost being the same as an actual meeting:



I couldn't find a cost per letter rate.  Anyhoo this would appear to be a run of the mill pay per fantasy agency (vid chat, phone, gifts, apts, etc) based in Kharkov.
The bread and butter for a site like this is the accumulation of idiots paying for letters/chats/gifts.. If you want to use this, then show up at their office in Kharkov and pay the 30euro a pop meeting fee without wasting time with a bunch of letter writing, et al.
check out the Starting Out section and read the sticky thread FSUW 101.  That'll give you some ideas of how to sensibly go about meeting real ladies.
And... 

You didn't mention anything about that hideous wallpaper

[Patagonie]

You can go.
They are a cross cultural couple, he is french and she is ukrainian.
They know their girls in the city. This is just a complementary activity for them.
They are not in the MOB business, translate in the 95% of agencies which are between swindlers and not professional.
I know them.

Now what you should know.
Some guys had been filled of illusions by MOB agencies (beautiful girls corresponding with them (in fact translators paid by the agencies), and meetings with HB (in fact girls getting their fees)).
So when they hit such agencies they get a lot of denial because real girls are not interested. But those guys are absolutely convinced of their superior appealing and believe that those real (rare) agencies are just fake.
You also need to understand that those agencies are not so much interested to work with douchebags because they have no absolute economical necessities.

[fi3000]

Hi,
 
Thanks for the help. I join this one and im testing their service.
Do you now another good agencie in the same city?
If i visit the city i need to have 2 agencies, just in case something happens.
If you can help, please post or pm.

[Patagonie]

When do you arrive in the Harkow ?

[fi3000]

I think in november.

[Hammer2722]

Hi,
 
Thanks for the help. I join this one and im testing their service.
Do you now another good agencie in the same city?
If i visit the city i need to have 2 agencies, just in case something happens.
If you can help, please post or pm.

If its a Pay-Per-Letter site, then you are just wasting your time and throwing away money communicating with agency translators....
 

[Turboguy]

Why not just join something like Elenas which is one of the more highly recommended sites and just contact the ladies who live there or near there?   It would make more sense to me than to write to fantasy women from an agency and find when you arrive that the women you thought you were writing don't show up and don't have the foggiest idea who you are despite them having written they were in love with you.

[LAman]

Why not just join something like Elenas which is one of the more highly recommended sites and just contact the ladies who live there or near there?   It would make more sense to me than to write to fantasy women from an agency and find when you arrive that the women you thought you were writing don't show up and don't have the foggiest idea who you are despite them having written they were in love with you.

Are you getting paid by EM??
 Thanks for letting me know I have been writing to all these fantasy women all these years!!
They all seem to show up( except for 1, yes it was EM).... know much about myself...answer minute details.....hmmm,  have I been fooled all these years.....it is amazing what you can learn from RWD!!!!!
To be serious for a second, this is first place where I have been told EM is the recommended site.
I did not think it was anything great, much like any other site I have been on. Getting contact info is overrated.....many do not amount to anything.
I know more couples that have met on PPL's than monthly plans or on free sites. None have the time or the inclination to join a forum.
 
 You can find your partner anywhere at anytime.  It is rather interesting to hear the stories of how people met.

[Faux Pas]

Are you getting paid by EM??
 Thanks for letting me know I have been writing to all these fantasy women all these years!!
They all seem to show up( except for 1, yes it was EM).... know much about myself...answer minute details.....hmmm,  have I been fooled all these years.....it is amazing what you can learn from RWD!!!!!
To be serious for a second, this is first place where I have been told EM is the recommended site.
I did not think it was anything great, much like any other site I have been on. Getting contact info is overrated.....many do not amount to anything.
I know more couples that have met on PPL's than monthly plans or on free sites. None have the time or the inclination to join a forum.
 
 You can find your partner anywhere at anytime.  It is rather interesting to hear the stories of how people met.

EMs is the only site I will recommend and yes I had some experience with a few of the pay by the letter sites, too. Granted, limited experience because I don't usually have to smell doody but just for a minute or two before getting away from it. EMs certainly isn't for everybody but it does get the most recommendations on this board than all the others likely combined. There is a reason for that.

If you are so inclined, start a thread with a poll and see which is the most preferred. I haven't seen one in quite sometime and I have been out of the searching game for 6-7 years. So things may have changed drastically since then. I seem to remember you around way back then as well. What is your definition of success? 

[Noch1]

If I were doing this now based on what I have learned, I would use Mamba and maybe VK.

[Patagonie]

If its a Pay-Per-Letter site, then you are just wasting your time and throwing away money communicating with agency translators....

Absolutely not.
You are wrong.
They don't use translators agency.

[Patagonie]

Are you getting paid by EM??
 Thanks for letting me know I have been writing to all these fantasy women all these years!!
They all seem to show up( except for 1, yes it was EM).... know much about myself...answer minute details.....hmmm,  have I been fooled all these years.....it is amazing what you can learn from RWD!!!!!
To be serious for a second, this is first place where I have been told EM is the recommended site.
I did not think it was anything great, much like any other site I have been on. Getting contact info is overrated.....many do not amount to anything.
I know more couples that have met on PPL's than monthly plans or on free sites. None have the time or the inclination to join a forum.
 
 You can find your partner anywhere at anytime.  It is rather interesting to hear the stories of how people met.

This is the difference with true agencies :
in true agencies not all women will come to meet you because genuine girls don't like your photos.
In faked agencies all women have an interest to meet you.

[Turboguy]

Are you getting paid by EM??  
 

Well yes, to be honest I am.  Not in cash though.  I met my wife on Elena's so my pay is in happiness not cash.

 To be serious for a second, this is first place where I have been told EM is the recommended site.

I don't think and didn't mean to imply that EM was THE recommended site.  It is the recommended site that I have first hand experience with and I have probably heard more guys say they met their wife on Elena's than any other site and perhaps more than all other online sites put together.  There are other sites that are recommended and a search will find them.  There are of course other ways such as the social media sites that people seem to have good luck with but were not popular back when I was searching or at least just starting to be popular and something I have no experience with.  When it comes to picking a site the general rule of thumb seems to be avoid any pay per letter site. 
 
 

[Hammer2722]

Absolutely not.
You are wrong.
They don't use translators agency.

Not sure what your point is here? Are you saying PPL sites don't use translators or that this particular site that the OP asked about does not use translators? Maybe you can enlighten the OP about this particular agency if you have some first hand knowledge about it???
 
My statement was a general statement about PPL sites. Almost all of these types of agencies are a sham.

[LAman]

Well yes, to be honest I am.  Not in cash though.  I met my wife on Elena's so my pay is in happiness not cash.I don't think and didn't mean to imply that EM was THE recommended site.  It is the recommended site that I have first hand experience with and I have probably heard more guys say they met their wife on Elena's than any other site and perhaps more than all other online sites put together.  There are other sites that are recommended and a search will find them.  There are of course other ways such as the social media sites that people seem to have good luck with but were not popular back when I was searching or at least just starting to be popular and something I have no experience with.  When it comes to picking a site the general rule of thumb seems to be avoid any pay per letter site.

I am happy for you Turbo.  I understand why you trump EM's card. But I would never recommend any site to anyone, I just don't know anything about the guy asking for such info. There is NO such thing as a  'good' site. A site is only as good as the person using it.  What works for one doesn't necessarily work for others.
The couples I know have met their spouses in many different ways, many different sites, but I noticed what they had in common was the men in search for their special lady. They were serious, sincere, focused and realistic. Most had did their due diligence. Most had less than 10 years age difference. Many have never been on a forum like this or would never join.
Takes a certain type of guy to even partake in this journey, lots of patience, money and time. I think luck and timing are the biggest factors.

[steveboy]

Are you getting paid by EM??
 Thanks for letting me know I have been writing to all these fantasy women all these years!!
They all seem to show up( except for 1, yes it was EM).... know much about myself...answer minute details.....hmmm,  have I been fooled all these years.....it is amazing what you can learn from RWD!!!!!
To be serious for a second, this is first place where I have been told EM is the recommended site.
I did not think it was anything great, much like any other site I have been on. Getting contact info is overrated.....many do not amount to anything.
I know more couples that have met on PPL's than monthly plans or on free sites. None have the time or the inclination to join a forum.
 
 You can find your partner anywhere at anytime.  It is rather interesting to hear the stories of how people met.

It seems to me everyone on this site is saying GO to Elenas models!! Maybe the site has a few plants in here! Well who knows! Welcome to the Russian dating niche. lol

[Patagonie]

Not sure what your point is here? Are you saying PPL sites don't use translators or that this particular site that the OP asked about does not use translators? Maybe you can enlighten the OP about this particular agency if you have some first hand knowledge about it???
 
My statement was a general statement about PPL sites. Almost all of these types of agencies are a sham.

I am saying that this agency don't use translators to create a fake correspondance to make some business.
If you meet a girl with weak or no english they would provide a translator.
Yes PPL sites in 95 % of time are between not professional and swindlers yes, but not all.

I have met 90% of my dates through various agencies and look my status now...