Ice cold behavior on first meet

[Faux Pas]

Don't you, Americans, have this universal wisdom - "happy wife = happy life"?   

Yup and another one, "If momma ain't happy, ain't nobody happy"

[LiveFromUkraine]

Well, you're Osgood from the cult classic movie "Some Like It Hot". 
The final  dialogue there:
 

    Her being a man may be a little less endearing.   haha

[2tallbill]

Pushkin was a womanizer and a skirt chaser.   
His poor Natali must have shed a lot of tears into her pillow at night....

That's why I don't like to read biographies of famous people... 

Poets and artists.

I put an emoticon that I found here but it disappeared



Anytime I ran across a girl who called herself an artist
I went running the other way. They repeatedly would try to use their
artistic mind as an excuse for their poor behavior.

Just my two kopecks

Bill

[SANDRO43]

I put an emoticon that I found here but it disappeared

You forgot to select it and click the Insert Image icon .

[Muzh]

I am fairly certain GQ is aware of the ironclad rule to never argue Pushkin or the великий и могучий русский язык with a Russian.  Neither of which, incidentally, has anything to do with communication.

Most Russians (and Ukrainians) over a certain age can quote whole books of poetry, and I'd hazard a guess even many of the younger RW here can do so as well.  It was part of the curriculum in Soviet education.  I know my better half can recite entire books of poetry.  He can recite Pushkin, but doesn't enjoy his poetry and never did, even as a teen.  However, he adheres to the ironclad rule.   

Many view Pushkin as the greatest Russian poet, and although his influence on the language, and subsequent Russian literature, is undeniable, the view of him as the greatest Russian literary figure, or even the greatest poet, is not universal.  The Soviets taught this as an undeniable truth, some say, because many of Pushkin's poems are more accessible than the works of, say, Lermontov or Tyutchev.

The Soviets portrayed the works of almost all literary figures as precursors to, and supporters of, the Bolshevik Revolution.  Pushkin did not believe in social reform in the manner as was taught to generations of Soviet students.  His letters to the Decembrist Konstantin Ryleev sets forth his views, which were more about giving intellectuals within the nobility more freedom to work with the existing autocratic monarchy.  He was friends with many Decembrists, which is why he came under official scrutiny, and his poem dedicated to them did not help, however, Pushkin did not subscribe to their ideas.

My wife has read some Pushkin to me and my reaction was the same as hers when I quoted some Umberto Eco to her: Nothing.
 
However, we have shared many intangibles that have grabbed our heart strings and pulled viciously until leaving both of us breathless.
 
Does that count?
 
Does she has a Russian soul or Puerto Rican soul? How about an American soul?

[Gator]

Poets and artists.

I put an emoticon that I found here but it disappeared



Anytime I ran across a girl who called herself an artist
I went running the other way. They repeatedly would try to use their
artistic mind as an excuse for their poor behavior.

Great emoticon!  I wager that your artist friends thought your behavior was  poor as well.   
 
Us men differ widely, as do the women we love.   I relish creativity, thus I find artists very entertaining and stimulating. An exception is attempting to deliberate with them and reach some agreement - the analytical vs. intuitive decision making process.
 
My wife has an artistic mind, manifested in many ways, mostly in performing arts.  Her accomplishments include:  Ballet, gymnastics, Circus Soleil-type acts, fashion modeling, and radio commercials.  The third and fourth activities  supported her well and made her independent.  As a young circus performer in Soviet days, she earned 5x more than what highly educated engineers made.  The modeling paid even more, much more on the European runways even though the "agency" controlled everything. 
 
Living with her is energizing, even those times when we have some spirited but friendly disputes in making decisions.    Usually we conclude productively with a decision that is better than what either of us would have made alone.  Sometimes we don't.  Even then, the sun always comes out tomorrow. 

[2tallbill]

You forgot to select it and click the Insert Image icon .

I didn't forget, it didn't appear when I did it the first time so I just
posted the link. Thanks for fixing it for me.


Bill

[Ooooops]

Well, you're Osgood from the cult classic movie "Some Like It Hot". 
 

One of the great American movies that were shown to us behind the Iron Curtain.       It was dubbed, but quite professionally, not like the 90s video-tapes with voice over of Vladimir Volodarski with his chronic tonsillitis...   

[Turboguy]

One of the things I really enjoyed was the poor quality of the dubbing on movies when I was in Russia.  The original soundtrack was fairly easy to follow if you paid attention which let me watch movies I could not have enjoyed otherwise.  I do agree, they were horribly done.

[2tallbill]

One of the things I really enjoyed was the poor quality of the dubbing on movies when I was in Russia.  The original soundtrack was fairly easy to follow if you paid attention which let me watch movies I could not have enjoyed otherwise.  I do agree, they were horribly done.

I watched Gravity in a cinema in Voronezh in mid October.
The dubbing was very good, we watched a few movies on
vk.com and they were still horribly dubbed as you've described.


Udachi !


Bill

[mendeleyev]

One of the things I really enjoyed was the poor quality of the dubbing on movies when I was in Russia.  The original soundtrack was fairly easy to follow if you paid attention which let me watch movies I could not have enjoyed otherwise.  I do agree, they were horribly done.

Arnold Schwarzenegger's lines sounded so sexy in a female voice! Not sure if true but I was told that they left the English audio to be somewhat audible and thus avoid paying the royalties required with normal dubbing.

These days, like Bill says, the dubbing is done much more professionally.

[2tallbill]

Great emoticon!  I wager that your artist friends thought your behavior was  poor as well.   
 
Us men differ widely, as do the women we love.   I relish creativity, thus I find artists very entertaining and stimulating. An exception is attempting to deliberate with them and reach some agreement - the analytical vs. intuitive decision making process.
 
My wife has an artistic mind, manifested in many ways, mostly in performing arts.  Her accomplishments include:  Ballet, gymnastics, Circus Soleil-type acts, fashion modeling, and radio commercials.  The third and fourth activities  supported her well and made her independent.  As a young circus performer in Soviet days, she earned 5x more than what highly educated engineers made.  The modeling paid even more, much more on the European runways even though the "agency" controlled everything. 
 
Living with her is energizing, even those times when we have some spirited but friendly disputes in making decisions.    Usually we conclude productively with a decision that is better than what either of us would have made alone.  Sometimes we don't.  Even then, the sun always comes out tomorrow.

I would put your wife in a different category. I would call her an artistic
athlete. I get along very well with athletes. They have a more goal oriented
mindset. While they do exhibit the behavior you describe they are less likely
in my experience to act completely irrationally, impulsively and without any
plan.


Artistic athletes often work very hard to accomplish their goals.


Just my two kopecks,


Bill

[Елена]

My wife has read some Pushkin to me and my reaction was the same as hers when I quoted some Umberto Eco to her: Nothing.
 
However, we have shared many intangibles that have grabbed our heart strings and pulled viciously until leaving both of us breathless.
 
Does that count?
 
Does she has a Russian soul or Puerto Rican soul? How about an American soul?

As said Yevgeny Yevtushenko : " A poet in Russia is more than a poet " Big surge of interest in poetry was in the 60s of the last century . It was a "thaw" Khrushchev . Poetry in Russia was important , when she spoke of freedom (not necessarily political ) about poet in Russian are spoken of as the conscience of the nation. Poems of Vladimir Vysotsky , not to improve the structure , but they are deep into the meaning and accuracy of the images. Russian poet expresses in words what one feels in his heart , but can not express . This can explain the phenomenon of Russian rock in the 90s of the last century , and today (although the current policy of the song a little, if at all .) I think the songs and images of groups such as "Nautilus" , "DDT" can hardly understand if you do not support the language and grew up in Russia .. Personally I love M. Tsvetaeva . it is close to me passion and pain. a poet in Russia is important that mental pain and anguish , he chustvuet more sharply and vividly than anybody . pain for the country , humanity , soul , honor, citizenship. truth , freedom - it's  what value in Russian poets.

[mendeleyev]

As said Yevgeny Yevtushenko : " A poet in Russia is more than a poet " Big surge of interest in poetry was in the 60s of the last century . It was a "thaw" Khrushchev . Poetry in Russia was important , when she spoke of freedom (not necessarily political ) about poet in Russian are spoken of as the conscience of the nation. Poems of Vladimir Vysotsky , not to improve the structure , but they are deep into the meaning and accuracy of the images. Russian poet expresses in words what one feels in his heart , but can not express . This can explain the phenomenon of Russian rock in the 90s of the last century , and today (although the current policy of the song a little, if at all .) I think the songs and images of groups such as "Nautilus" , "DDT" can hardly understand if you do not support the language and grew up in Russia .. Personally I love M. Tsvetaeva . it is close to me passion and pain. a poet in Russia is important that mental pain and anguish , he chustvuet more sharply and vividly than anybody . pain for the country , humanity , soul , honor, citizenship. truth , freedom - it's  what value in Russian poets.

Beautiful.

Yelena, I share your admiration for Marina Tsvetaeva. My wife was commissioned to paint a posthumous portrait for her museum a few years ago.

What are your views of the late Григорий Дашевский? Perhaps you will share your views on poetry at this forum thread: http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=16779.0

[Елена]

Yelena, I share your admiration for Marina Tsvetaeva. My wife was commissioned to paint a posthumous portrait for her museum a few years ago.

О! It is very surprising and difficult task. Tsvetaeva was both gentle and strong, bold and vulnerable, proud and touching. She was a bundle of contradictions and full of passion. How come your wife  perform the job?

[Muzh]

As said Yevgeny Yevtushenko : " A poet in Russia is more than a poet " Big surge of interest in poetry was in the 60s of the last century . It was a "thaw" Khrushchev . Poetry in Russia was important , when she spoke of freedom (not necessarily political ) about poet in Russian are spoken of as the conscience of the nation. Poems of Vladimir Vysotsky , not to improve the structure , but they are deep into the meaning and accuracy of the images. Russian poet expresses in words what one feels in his heart , but can not express . This can explain the phenomenon of Russian rock in the 90s of the last century , and today (although the current policy of the song a little, if at all .) I think the songs and images of groups such as "Nautilus" , "DDT" can hardly understand if you do not support the language and grew up in Russia .. Personally I love M. Tsvetaeva . it is close to me passion and pain. a poet in Russia is important that mental pain and anguish , he chustvuet more sharply and vividly than anybody . pain for the country , humanity , soul , honor, citizenship. truth , freedom - it's  what value in Russian poets.

Yelena, not trying to demean what you said, however, the same defintion applies to many poets from many countries.

[Елена]

 
Yelena, not trying to demean what you said, however, the same defintion applies to many poets from many countries.
I do not doubt it! And I can not judge objectively, because I do not read foreign poets in their original language. But in Russia, so little talent. poet in Russia require a lot-he must be a man, citizen, soldier, herald .... and many more. But perhaps just want a poet and in other countries. Of course, time is different, and what used to express the poet now makes a journalist. The poets often act as bards, rock singers or singers in other genres.

[mendeleyev]

Tsvetaeva was both gentle and strong, bold and vulnerable, proud and touching. She was a bundle of contradictions and full of passion. How come your wife  perform the job?

My wife first introduced me to the story and work of Tsvetaeva. Many Russian poets I didn't understand but perhaps it was knowing about her first that helped me better understand her prose. My wife does a lot of commissioned work for government and entertainment figures and her friendship with one of the resident writers/directors at the Tsvetaeva home-museum led to the opportunity. Here is a link to one of her recent exhibitions. She is the beautiful blonde lady in the pink dress. 

http://russianreport.wordpress.com/2013/11/17/our-favourite-russian-artist-aida/

[Елена]

This is a very beautiful work, lovely woman. I even think it's a lovely pink dress tied herself your wife?

[mendeleyev]

Thank you Yelena. Your comments are gracious and appreciated. She has never made clothes but her Mum and Aunts do so from time to time. The pink dress came from a shop but I think it must have been designed with her in mind!