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Russia Examines Its Options for Responding to Ukraine
« on: March 18, 2014, 08:14:25 AM »
By George Friedman

The fall of the Ukrainian government and its replacement with one that appears to be oriented toward the West represents a major defeat for the Russian Federation. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, Russia accepted the reality that the former Eastern European satellite states would be absorbed into the Western economic and political systems. Moscow claims to have been assured that former Soviet republics would be left as a neutral buffer zone and not absorbed. Washington and others have disputed that this was promised. In any case, it was rendered meaningless when the Baltic states were admitted to NATO and the European Union. The result was that NATO, which had been almost 1,600 kilometers (1,000 miles) from St. Petersburg, was now less than approximately 160 kilometers away. 

This left Belarus and Ukraine as buffers. Ukraine is about 480 kilometers from Moscow at its closest point. Were Belarus and Ukraine both admitted to NATO, the city of Smolensk, which had been deep inside the Soviet Union, would have become a border town. Russia has historically protected itself with its depth. It moved its borders as far west as possible, and that depth deterred adventurers -- or, as it did with Hitler and Napoleon, destroyed them. The loss of Ukraine as a buffer to the West leaves Russia without that depth and hostage to the intentions and capabilities of Europe and the United States.
 
There are those in the West who dismiss Russia's fears as archaic. No one wishes to invade Russia, and no one can invade Russia. Such views appear sophisticated but are in fact simplistic. Intent means relatively little in terms of assessing threats. They can change very fast. So too can capabilities. The American performance in World War I and the German performance in the 1930s show how quickly threats and capabilities shift. In 1932, Germany was a shambles economically and militarily. By 1938, it was the dominant economic and military power on the European Peninsula. In 1941, it was at the gates of Moscow. In 1916, U.S. President Woodrow Wilson ran a sincere anti-war campaign in a country with hardly any army. In 1917, he deployed more than a million American soldiers to Europe.
 
Russia's viewpoint is appropriately pessimistic. If Russia loses Belarus or Ukraine, it loses its strategic depth, which accounts for much of its ability to defend the Russian heartland. If the intention of the West is not hostile, then why is it so eager to see the regime in Ukraine transformed? It may be a profound love of liberal democracy, but from Moscow's perspective, Russia must assume more sinister motives.
 
Quite apart from the question of invasion, which is obviously a distant one, Russia is concerned about the consequences of Ukraine's joining the West and the potential for contagion in parts of Russia itself. During the 1990s, there were several secessionist movements in Russia. The Chechens became violent, and the rest of their secession story is well known. But there also was talk of secession in Karelia, in Russia's northwest, and in the Pacific Maritime region.
 
What was conceivable under Boris Yeltsin was made inconceivable under Vladimir Putin. The strategy Putin adopted was to increase Russia's strength moderately but systematically, to make that modest increase appear disproportionately large. Russia could not afford to remain on the defensive; the forces around it were too powerful. Putin had to magnify Russia's strength, and he did. Using energy exports, the weakness of Europe and the United States' distraction in the Middle East, he created a sense of growing Russian power. Putin ended talk of secession in the Russian Federation. He worked to create regimes in Belarus and Ukraine that retained a great deal of domestic autonomy but operated within a foreign policy framework acceptable to Russia. Moscow went further, projecting its power into the Middle East and, in the Syrian civil war, appearing to force the United States to back out of its strategy.
 
It is not clear what happened in Kiev. There were of course many organizations funded by American and European money that were committed to a reform government. It is irrelevant whether, as the Russians charge, these organizations planned and fomented the uprising against former President Viktor Yanukovich's regime or whether that uprising was part of a more powerful indigenous movement that drew these groups along. The fact was that Yanukovich refused to sign an agreement moving Ukraine closer to the European Union, the demonstrations took place, there was violence, and an openly pro-Western Ukrainian government was put in place.
 
The Russians cannot simply allow this to stand. Not only does it create a new geopolitical reality, but in the longer term it also gives the appearance inside Russia that Putin is weaker than he seems and opens the door to instability and even fragmentation. Therefore, the Russians must respond. The issue is how.

Russia's Potential Responses

The first step was simply making official what has been a reality. Crimea is within the Russian sphere of influence, and the military force Moscow has based in Crimea under treaties could assert control whenever it wished. That Sevastopol is a critical Russian naval base for operations in the Black and Mediterranean seas was not the key. A treaty protected that. But intervention in Crimea was a low-risk, low-cost action that would halt the appearance that Russia was hemorrhaging power. It made Russia appear as a bully in the West and a victor at home. That was precisely the image it wanted to project to compensate for its defeat.
 
Several options are now available to Russia.

First, it can do nothing. The government in Kiev is highly fractious, and given the pro-Russian factions' hostility toward moving closer to the West, the probability of paralysis is high. In due course, Russian influence, money and covert activities can recreate the prior neutrality in Ukraine in the form of a stalemate. This was the game Russia played after the 2004 Orange Revolution. The problem with this strategy is that it requires patience at a time when the Russian government must demonstrate its power to its citizens and the world. Moreover, if Crimea does leave Ukraine, it will weaken the pro-Russian bloc in Kiev and remove a large number of ethnic Tartars from Ukraine's political morass. It could be enough of a loss to allow the pro-Russian bloc to lose what electoral power it previously had (Yanukovich beat Yulia Timoshenko by fewer than a million votes in 2010). Thus, by supporting Crimea's independence -- and raising the specter of an aggressive Russia that could bind the other anti-Russian factions together -- Putin could be helping to ensure that a pro-Western Ukraine persists.

Second, it can invade mainland Ukraine. There are three problems with this. First, Ukraine is a large area to seize and pacify. Russia does not need an insurgency on its border, and it cannot guarantee that it wouldn't get one, especially since a significant portion of the population in western Ukraine is pro-West. Second, in order for an invasion of Ukraine to be geopolitically significant, all of Ukraine west of the Dnieper River must be taken. Otherwise, the frontier with Russia remains open, and there would be no anchor to the Russian position. However, this would bring Russian forces to the bank opposite Kiev and create a direct border with NATO and EU members. Finally, if the Russians wish to pursue the first option, pulling eastern Ukrainian voters out of the Ukrainian electoral process would increase the likelihood of an effective anti-Russian government.

Third, it can act along its periphery. In 2008, Russia announced its power with authority by invading Georgia. This changed calculations in Kiev and other capitals in the region by reminding them of two realities. First, Russian power is near. Second, the Europeans have no power, and the Americans are far away. There are three major points where the Russians could apply pressure: the Caucasus countries, Moldova and the Baltics. By using large Russian minority populations within NATO countries, the Russians might be able to create unrest there, driving home the limits of NATO's power.

Fourth, it can offer incentives in Eastern and Central Europe. Eastern and Central European countries, from Poland to Bulgaria, are increasingly aware that they may have to hedge their bets on Europe and the West. The European economic crisis now affects politico-military relations. The sheer fragmentation of European nations makes a coherent response beyond proclamations impossible. Massive cuts in military spending remove most military options. The Central Europeans feel economically and strategically uneasy, particularly as the European crisis is making the European Union's largest political powers focus on the problems of the eurozone, of which most of these countries are not members. The Russians have been conducting what we call commercial imperialism, particularly south of Poland, entering into business dealings that have increased their influence and solved some economic problems. The Russians have sufficient financial reserves to neutralize Central European countries.

Last, it can bring pressure to bear on the United States by creating problems in critical areas. An obvious place is Iran. In recent weeks, the Russians have offered to build two new, non-military reactors for the Iranians. Quietly providing technological support for military nuclear programs could cause the Iranians to end negotiations with the United States and would certainly be detected by U.S. intelligence. The United States has invested a great deal of effort and political capital in its relations with the Iranians. The Russians are in a position to damage them, especially as the Iranians are looking for leverage in their talks with Washington. In more extreme and unlikely examples, the Russians might offer help to Venezuela's weakening regime. There are places that Russia can hurt the United States, and it is now in a position where it will take risks -- as with Iran's nuclear program -- that it would not have taken before.

The European and American strategy to control the Russians has been to threaten sanctions. The problem is that Russia is the world's eighth-largest economy, and its finances are entangled with the West's, as is its economy. For any sanctions the West would impose, the Russians have a counter. There are many Western firms that have made large investments in Russia and have large Russian bank accounts and massive amounts of equipment in the country. The Russians can also cut off natural gas and oil shipments. This would of course hurt Russia financially, but the impact on Europe -- and global oil markets -- would be more sudden and difficult to manage. Some have argued that U.S. energy or European shale could solve the problem. The Russian advantage is that any such solution is years away, and Europe would not have years to wait for the cavalry to arrive. Some symbolic sanctions coupled with symbolic counter-sanctions are possible, but bringing the Russian economy to its knees without massive collateral damage would be hard.

The most likely strategy Russia will follow is a combination of all of the above: pressure on mainland Ukraine with some limited incursions; working to create unrest in the Baltics, where large Russian-speaking minorities live, and in the Caucasus and Moldova; and pursuing a strategy to prevent Eastern Europe from coalescing into a single entity. Simultaneously, Russia is likely to intervene in areas that are sensitive to the United States while allowing the Ukrainian government to be undermined by its natural divisions.

Considering the West's Countermoves

In all of these things there are two questions. The first is what German foreign policy is going to be. Berlin supported the uprising in Ukraine and has on occasion opposed the Russian response, but it is not in a position to do anything more concrete. So far, it has tried to straddle the divides, particularly between Russia and the European Union, wanting to be at one with all. The West has now posed a problem to the Russians that Moscow must respond to visibly. If Germany effectively ignores Russia, Berlin will face two problems. The first will be that the Eastern Europeans, particularly the Poles, will lose massive confidence in Germany as a NATO ally, particularly if there are problems in the Baltics. Second, it will have to face the extraordinary foreign policy divide in Europe. Those countries close to the buffers are extremely uneasy. Those farther away -- Spain, for instance -- are far calmer. Europe is not united, and Germany needs a united Europe. The shape of Europe will be determined in part by Germany's response.
 
The second question is that of the United States. I have spoken of the strategy of balance of power. A balance of power strategy calls for calibration of involvement, not disengagement. Having chosen to support the creation of an anti-Russian regime in Ukraine, the United States now faces consequences and decisions. The issue is not deployments of major forces but providing the Central Europeans from Poland to Romania with the technology and materiel to discourage Russia from dangerous adventures -- and to convince their publics that they are not alone.

The paradox is this: As the sphere of Western influence has moved to the east along Russia's southern frontier, the actual line of demarcation has moved westward. Whatever happens within the buffer states, this line is critical for U.S. strategy because it maintains the European balance of power. We might call this soft containment.
 
It is far-fetched to think that the Russians would move beyond commercial activity in this region. It is equally far-fetched that EU or NATO expansion into Ukraine would threaten Russian national security. Yet history is filled with far-fetched occurrences that in retrospect are obvious. The Russians have less room to maneuver but everything at stake. They might therefore take risks that others, not feeling the pressure the Russians feel, would avoid. Again, it is a question of planning for the worst and hoping for the best.
 
For the United States, creating a regional balance of power is critical. Ideally, the Germans would join the project, but Germany is closer to Russia, and the plan involves risks Berlin will likely want to avoid. There is a grouping in the region called the Visegrad battlegroup. It is within the framework of NATO and consists of Poland, the Czech Republic, Slovakia and Hungary. It is now more a concept than a military. However, with U.S. commitment and the inclusion of Romania, it could become a low-cost (to the United States) balance to a Russia suddenly feeling insecure and therefore unpredictable. This, and countering Russian commercial imperialism with a U.S. alternative at a time when Europe is hardly in a position to sustain the economies in these countries, would be logical.

This has been the U.S. strategy since 1939: maximum military and economic aid with minimal military involvement. The Cold War ended far better than the wars the Americans became directly involved in. The Cold War in Europe never turned hot. Logic has it that at some point the United States will adopt this strategy. But of course, in the meantime, we wait for Russia's next move, or should none come, a very different Russia.

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Re: Russia Examines Its Options for Responding to Ukraine
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2014, 09:08:08 AM »
I have always appreciated Friedman's thinking.  However, this piece is not breaking new ground.

We were discussing much of this over a week ago and came up with the same conclusions in fewer words (i. e., the loss of the Crimean electorate will shift voting in Ukraine solidly towards Europe, the West's response to Russia's invasion of Georgia emboldened Putin, etc.)

Friedman's final point has not been discussed much at RWD, yet has been important in America's thinking so far.   Namely,  America needs Russia's cooperation in two far more dangerous hotspots - Iran and Syria.   While many at RWD are enraged by Putin's actions in Ukraine, this is a mole hill compared to the mountain of Iran and the foothill of Syria.   Thus, the US will not push Putin hard in Ukraine. 

Europe needs to take the lead in Ukraine, with American participation done mostly through NATO.   Given Europe's fiscal problems, there may not be much help coming.  And unless Ukraine can show that it is reducing corruption, Europe may be reluctant to help even if its coffers were overflowing.   


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Re: Russia Examines Its Options for Responding to Ukraine
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2014, 09:26:43 AM »
Great piece and very much in-line with realities. We should all know this by now, but the spin doctors had been very busy of late.
Unfortunately, this will undoubtedly suffer dismissal and repulsion from the overly-emotional and chest-thumping by the incessantly-dramatics of the ignorant.

I'm no Putin fan, but he's shown far more resolve than that of the US' leadership.
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Re: Russia Examines Its Options for Responding to Ukraine
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2014, 09:29:15 AM »
I'm all ears to hear why Iran and Syria are more important to US security than Ukraine is, or will ever be.
 
Because, apart from enriching oil speculators in Wall Street, I think they don't endanger "our friends" any more than this frozen conflict in Eastern Europe.
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Re: Russia Examines Its Options for Responding to Ukraine
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2014, 09:41:03 AM »
I have always appreciated Friedman's thinking.  However, this piece is not breaking new ground.

We were discussing much of this over a week ago and came up with the same conclusions in fewer words (i. e., the loss of the Crimean electorate will shift voting in Ukraine solidly towards Europe, the West's response to Russia's invasion of Georgia emboldened Putin, etc.)

Friedman's final point has not been discussed much at RWD, yet has been important in America's thinking so far.   Namely,  America needs Russia's cooperation in two far more dangerous hotspots - Iran and Syria.   While many at RWD are enraged by Putin's actions in Ukraine, this is a mole hill compared to the mountain of Iran and the foothill of Syria.   Thus, the US will not push Putin hard in Ukraine. 

Europe needs to take the lead in Ukraine, with American participation done mostly through NATO.   Given Europe's fiscal problems, there may not be much help coming.  And unless Ukraine can show that it is reducing corruption, Europe may be reluctant to help even if its coffers were overflowing.

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For the very reasons you quoted two paragraphs above, I believe that the US should not involve themselves.
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Re: Russia Examines Its Options for Responding to Ukraine
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2014, 03:58:54 PM »
I'm all ears to hear why Iran and Syria are more important to US security than Ukraine is, or will ever be.


Iran - nukes, rapidly growing population already at 77 million, a religious doctrine embracing sacrifice and martyrdom, one of the most dishonest cultures in the world, political leadership that has no restraints, support of terrorism, potential to create havoc in and beyond the Middle East.........  (and I did not mention oil)

Syria - opportunity for Al Queda takeover, chemical/biological weapons, an ongoing conflict displacing millions and killing thousands,  potential to spill over into the Middle East, ......

Ukraine - not life threatening, limited internal economic consequences, implications for more border intrusions by Russia, inhibits NATO-Russia diplomacy..... 

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Re: Russia Examines Its Options for Responding to Ukraine
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2014, 09:33:22 PM »
Iran - nukes, rapidly growing population already at 77 million, a religious doctrine embracing sacrifice and martyrdom, one of the most dishonest cultures in the world, political leadership that has no restraints, support of terrorism, potential to create havoc in and beyond the Middle East.........  (and I did not mention oil)



I agree the problem with Iran is bigger than Ukraine. The problems there will definitely hurt our economy than the problems in Eastern Europe. But I also think the problem in Ukraine increases our problems with Iran with the common denominator being Russia.


There are basically 3 things Obama could do during the crisis in Crimea.


1) Take a strong stance against Russia to the point Russia backs off Crimea. Afterwards Russia may be more motivated to help us with Iran due to the strength we displayed or be pissed off and not help at all.


2) Take the current soft stance which most people believe encourages Russia to not cooperate in anything we ask of them.


3) Take no stance and let Russia do what it wants. Russia in turn my help us control Iran but Russia just made a multi billion dollar economic deal with Iran so I think they never had any serious intentions to apply sanctions on Iran.


Iran is close to a bomb now. We know Israel is going to bomb them if the international community fails to control them. International relations with Iran's most influential partner, Russia, is falling apart. I predict a bombing in the future.


Putin isn't dumb and understands for every action, he alters the situation. He may have a master plan and try to alter the situation to his benefit. He may turn the dogs of war loose, offer full support and encourage Iran to start a Middle East war after getting bombed by Israel. A Middle Eastern war will definitely turn our attention away from Russia vs. Eastern Europe. There are Russian citizens living in the Baltics and other ex Soviet states that need to be protected from the fanatics of the West. Putin may come to their rescue while we're busy with Iran. With Russia and Iran making their moves, North Korea and other nations may act understanding there's strength in numbers and it's currently their best shot at dethroning America and increasing their real estate since America would have a hard time fighting on multiple fronts. The leaders of those nations are salivating at opportunities that just materialized due to Obama's show of weakness.


If world war happens, Obama will react slow as FDR reacted slow to the events of WWII. Obama may apply sanctions on a larger scale, let countries beat each other up, and let tens of millions die before letting America get into the war and through America's sheer strength and fresh troops, we will win a world war with a weak leader and your great grandchildren will someday read that Obama is one of the heroes of WWIII. Of course Obama may need a third term to right the wrongs in this world. Our citizens may give it to him.


Based on the amount of news coverage of late, a missing plane is more important to Americans that what Russia is doing. We may find the plane someday......delivering an Iranian nuke.


Fund the audits, spread the word and educate people, write your politicians and other elected officials. Stay active in the fight to save our country. Over 220 generals and admirals say we are in a fight for our survival like no other time since 1776.

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Re: Russia Examines Its Options for Responding to Ukraine
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2014, 09:49:54 PM »

one of the most dishonest cultures in the world

Yeah, right up there with the Russian culture.

"We must protect the Russian ethnics in Crimea."  In fact they never suffered any form of discrimination or danger.

"There are no Russian troops in Crimea."  What a bunch of chicken shit people.

"The vote for joining  Russia received 97%"  WOW, unheard of in any fair election for anything.  And, to think, only 125% of the voters had to cast ballots.  And yet these people and their supporters can look in the mirror every day.
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Re: Russia Examines Its Options for Responding to Ukraine
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2014, 07:09:18 AM »

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      one of the most dishonest cultures in the world   

Yeah, right up there with the Russian culture.


Even though the Russian government falsehoods about Crimea are monumental, Russia is a church deacon in comparison with Iran.  Trust me, I don't lie.   ;)  I lived in Iran for two years.

Russian citizens reluctantly accept their government's lies.  In contrast, the Iranian culture admires clever liars, even knowing the information is a lie.  Also, the sense of sacrifice and martyrdom is entrenched in the culture.  They are capable of almost any horrific act.   Nothing has happened over the past 20 years that would convince me the Iranian society is changing for the better. 

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Re: Russia Examines Its Options for Responding to Ukraine
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2014, 08:14:19 AM »

Iran - nukes, rapidly growing population already at 77 million, a religious doctrine embracing sacrifice and martyrdom, one of the most dishonest cultures in the world, political leadership that has no restraints, support of terrorism, potential to create havoc in and beyond the Middle East.........  (and I did not mention oil)

Syria - opportunity for Al Queda takeover, chemical/biological weapons, an ongoing conflict displacing millions and killing thousands,  potential to spill over into the Middle East, ......


So far you almost described the US Congress.
 
I still can't see where they can be a threat to the US.
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Re: Russia Examines Its Options for Responding to Ukraine
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2014, 08:27:00 AM »

So far you almost described the US Congress.

Yes for not a small number of congressmen.   ;)
 
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I still can't see where they can be a threat to the US.

A direct threat to us?  Iran quite possibly if it arms terrorists with nuclear weapons.  Syria to a much less extent, yet still possible via the terrorist pathway.

The larger threat is unrest in different parts of the globe, possibly  impinging on our lifestyle as 9-11 did. 

I don't lie awake at night worried about it.  And I particularly don't worry about war between the US and Russia.   IMO Russia is primarily interested in strengthening its defenses, partly at its borders and partly by walking with more swagger.  We will have other encounters with them.   
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Re: Russia Examines Its Options for Responding to Ukraine
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2014, 05:17:04 PM »
I don't lie awake at night worried about it.  And I particularly don't worry about war between the US and Russia.
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Re: Russia Examines Its Options for Responding to Ukraine
« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2014, 05:22:05 PM »
Not true.  He should be very afraid.  When the US decides to eliminate St. Petersburg, he'll be right next door.
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Re: Russia Examines Its Options for Responding to Ukraine
« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2014, 05:47:31 PM »
Not true.  He should be very afraid.  When the US decides to eliminate St. Petersburg, he'll be right next door.

Because some half-wit doesn't realise that there's more than one St Petersburg in the world?  :ROFL:

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Re: Russia Examines Its Options for Responding to Ukraine
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2014, 08:25:53 AM »
Because Tampa is not a strategically worthwhile target ;D .

Ah, that's where you are wrong.
 
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Re: Russia Examines Its Options for Responding to Ukraine
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2014, 08:26:53 AM »
Not true.  He should be very afraid.  When the US decides to eliminate St. Petersburg, he'll be right next door.

Are you referring to "God's Waiting Room?"
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Re: Russia Examines Its Options for Responding to Ukraine
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2014, 08:45:41 AM »
Have your fun guys! 

I sleep well because this will be limited to economic warfare, and probably not much of that based on specific sanctions discussed by Obama. 

 

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