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Offline Son of Clyde

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I am a Rah Rah guy and damn proud of it
« on: May 23, 2006, 02:57:11 PM »
I needed to post something today.

But I think it is better to be positive than negative, especially when someone is hurting. We have all been there. You don't throw stones to a drowning man.
Ok I suppose RWD is not a support group.
What should RWD be?
Maybe a group of nameless people with the only thing in common being a RW.

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Re: I am a Rah Rah guy and damn proud of it
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2006, 03:20:12 PM »
I needed to post something today.

But I think it is better to be positive than negative, especially when someone is hurting. We have all been there. You don't throw stones to a drowning man.
Ok I suppose RWD is not a support group.
What should RWD be?
Maybe a group of nameless people with the only thing in common being a RW.


I always considered it to be a natural platform for my inane rambling........

Ste

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Re: I am a Rah Rah guy and damn proud of it
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2006, 04:24:26 PM »
RWD can be (and very often is) a very close knit and very informative community of like minded individuals.

The one thing that often makes me shake my head is that someone can write a great post filled with wonderfully usefull and relevant information that would be completely needed by anyone starting this quest and most who are already involved in this quest and in one or two sentences destroy all of this great information with a couple of snide comments or personal shots at someone. I just don't see the point of this beyond self gratification and whatever satisfaction they would get from belittling someone that they consider lower than them.

Can someone who shows great integrity and class with vast knowledge be listened to when they go classless with degrading comments? Guess that will depend on the listener.

If you can glean the good information from a post and ignore the crap then you can learn an amazing amount of information that will help you and guide you through the tons of pitfalls that are to come.

If you cannot take that step back and look at the good in a message then sadly the good in that message will be lost. We here have and will continue to have a lot of good to impart to those who are here now and will come here in the future. Will the people with the knowledge be able to pass on this knowledge in a way that will be received, understood, and used by those who need it? We will just have to wait and see.

FWIW, YMMV, IMO,
Ken

P. S. Ste, We've come to really enjoy your inane ramblings!
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Re: I am a Rah Rah guy and damn proud of it
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2006, 07:22:28 PM »
I needed to post something today.

But I think it is better to be positive than negative, especially when someone is hurting. We have all been there. You don't throw stones to a drowning man.
Ok I suppose RWD is not a support group.
What should RWD be?
Maybe a group of nameless people with the only thing in common being a RW.


Well you know Clyde, and I hate to tell you this because I have always been the controversial one, but I agree with you. Because I am the eternal optomist. I have always be the mentor type. The guy who knows that as surely as the sun will set that it will rise the next day. Everyday I have to go out and generate an income for myself. I don't draw a weekly paycheck anymore so I don't have the company teat to suckle as most guys do. But I make it. Year in and year out. I make it on shear positive drive.

Because of that if I see a guy who is trying then I am going to encourage him on. He might fail but at least he tried and that counts for something. If a guy is up then I tell him, "Stay up there, man." If a guy is down, like  you say, then I say, "Get up, guy. Do it again and again until you get it right." The ledgend of college basketball, Valvano always told his players and he had nothing but winners. "Don't give up. Don't ever give up."  I think about that so when I see a guy try and fail, no matter how stupid he was when he went about it...at least he had the balls to try and he needs to get some kind of credit for it. Be it a "rah" or an "atta boy." You will never hear me say, "I told you so." Never.

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Re: I am a Rah Rah guy and damn proud of it
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2006, 09:21:18 PM »
i agree that it is best to stay positive when a guy is alrerady been beaten down by fate or a bad experience.



i'm certainly for encouragement !!
with a good side portion of *reason* or reality  added in.
(which in this business unfortunantly is often negative! )

each situation is different?

 if i saw a guy struggling up a hill ,making progress, or falling back ,but then getting up and proceeeding, with the top quite probable or at least likely,
  i would certainly offer both encouragement and help!
 
if i saw a friend looking back towards me , not ahead,  telling me what great progress he was making up what he believes to be a hill,
 yet is heading directly towards  cliff,
i would certainly tell him it was folly and to stop.

 I cannot be a rah rah guy , in all circumstances..
nor can i be even when there may be an occassional nice pond over the side of the cliff..
as i can only give my friend advice on what i see at the time, and what he thinks he sees..
and not on what neither one of us can see!

 ;D


in the end its his great decision, great leap of fairth ,  or folly.
and he is the one to live with it..

the only reality on the net is ,  the advice or feedback on a bulleton board , is worth exactly what you pay for it!
« Last Edit: May 23, 2006, 09:26:37 PM by AJ »
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Re: I am a Rah Rah guy and damn proud of it
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2006, 10:13:00 PM »
i agree that it is best to stay positive when a guy is alrerady been beaten down by fate or a bad experience.



i'm certainly for encouragement !!
with a good side portion of *reason* or reality  added in.
(which in this business unfortunantly is often negative! )

each situation is different?

 if i saw a guy struggling up a hill ,making progress, or falling back ,but then getting up and proceeeding, with the top quite probable or at least likely,
  i would certainly offer both encouragement and help!
 
if i saw a friend looking back towards me , not ahead,  telling me what great progress he was making up what he believes to be a hill,
 yet is heading directly towards  cliff,
i would certainly tell him it was folly and to stop.

 I cannot be a rah rah guy , in all circumstances..
nor can i be even when there may be an occassional nice pond over the side of the cliff..
as i can only give my friend advice on what i see at the time, and what he thinks he sees..
and not on what neither one of us can see!

 ;D


in the end its his great decision, great leap of fairth ,  or folly.
and he is the one to live with it..

the only reality on the net is ,  the advice or feedback on a bulleton board , is worth exactly what you pay for it!

Yep, well said, AJ. I too would not urge a comrade to an end that would kill him. But with regard to fSU women the outcome will not be a fatal one. If whatever it was that you did, be it good or be it bad, the end result is nothing more than either a bruised ego and a great triumph. Either way you live to fight another day.

I remembered about the gazell. In the Savannah the slowest gazell needs to be faster than the fastest lion. Otherwise he dies. On the other hand the fastest lion need to be faster than the slowest gazell, or he dies. Each morning, on the Savannah each gazell and each lion knows one thing. That they need to hit the ground running...or they die.

What does that have to do with us? We need to stay on top of our individual games each and every day when we interact with those who surround us. If we do not remain both sharp and focused then someone, somehow, will get the better of us. At least for us the outcome of that interaction does not result in our demise.

peewee 

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Re: I am a Rah Rah guy and damn proud of it
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2006, 12:32:24 AM »
peewee- i agree no lives are lost..

but this venture certainly isnt like dating the local waitress
and when you part company, no real diffuiculties..

there are real difficulties and fairly large life choices at stake..
someone who has walked in maxxs shoes will not have your cavalier attitude
about merely a bruised ego.. and move along..
*shrugs*
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Re: I am a Rah Rah guy and damn proud of it
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2006, 04:48:42 AM »
One downside to a K1 failure is the time lost and money spent. It does not mean the person will take nothing from this. PG, I think, gained knowledge in the process and there may be hope for the future. I learned much about myself during the K1 process. I am still learning.

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Re: I am a Rah Rah guy and damn proud of it
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2006, 07:38:00 AM »
One downside to a K1 failure is the time lost and money spent. It does not mean the person will take nothing from this. PG, I think, gained knowledge in the process and there may be hope for the future. I learned much about myself during the K1 process. I am still learning.

C;l

Clyde, when you date anyone if it does not result in a marriage of two then there will be lost time and money, if that is your concern. In Doug's case he did lose both time and money but I suspect that he had accpeted that risk. In return for his loss of both time and money the did gain an education and he did gain a friend. He may have gained enough of both to offset his losses. And even if he did not he did  have an experience that not many lads have the opportunity to have.

I would like to talk to Doug. To know better what he thinks he lost and what he thinks he gained. If any man who has found any foreign bride did not accomplish that goal in the first attempt and in less than a few months time then he too lost much time  and money on women who untimately led him to his marriage. They may have spent more than Doug did. Doug's chapter is not closed. If in the end, when Doug has finally married his lady, if all could be totaled in both time and money did he in fact spend more of his time and money than the next guy did?

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