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Re: Presidents will be Democrats forever more
« Reply #25 on: November 09, 2016, 06:11:58 PM »
How will the demographics in America change if Trump's presidency makes it clear to minorities, illegal immigrants, etc. that America was intended to be a white, Christian country?

And to hell with the Russians Native Americans who arrived thousands of years beforehand?

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Re: Presidents will be Democrats forever more
« Reply #26 on: November 09, 2016, 06:46:01 PM »
And to hell with the Russians Native Americans who arrived thousands of years beforehand?

1. They never formed a nation with borders or any other aspects of a regular country.

2. You know that the earliest Native Americans were European, right?  As in, "white people"?

http://insider.si.edu/2012/03/ice-age-mariners-from-europe-were-the-first-people-to-reach-north-america/

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Re: Presidents will be Democrats forever more
« Reply #27 on: November 09, 2016, 06:57:52 PM »
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And to hell with the Russians Native Americans who arrived thousands of years beforehand?

They weren't Russians, as Russia was not a nation back then.

What about the indigenous peoples?  The indigenous people have largely been marginalized (and put on reservations) so white Christians can enjoy America.  (I'm not saying this is right or wrong.  I'm just saying this is how it is.)

Australia was intended as a penal colony.  Yes, there were aborigines there, but that fact is irrelevant to Australia being intended as a penal colony.

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Re: Presidents will be Democrats forever more
« Reply #28 on: November 10, 2016, 04:31:52 PM »
1. They never formed a nation with borders or any other aspects of a regular country.

Duh!  :cluebat:  Nor did anybody else in prehistory.

2. You know that the earliest Native Americans were European, right?  As in, "white people"?

http://insider.si.edu/2012/03/ice-age-mariners-from-europe-were-the-first-people-to-reach-north-america/

What does that have to do with Christianity?  Wherever the earliest inhabitants of North America came from, and whatever colour they may have been, they WEREN'T Christians.

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Re: Presidents will be Democrats forever more
« Reply #29 on: November 10, 2016, 04:49:26 PM »
They weren't Russians, as Russia was not a nation back then.

Don't be so literal.  Modern people know that geographical region as Russia, so it's simply a point of reference.

What about the indigenous peoples?  The indigenous people have largely been marginalized (and put on reservations) so white Christians can enjoy America.  (I'm not saying this is right or wrong.  I'm just saying this is how it is.)

That was actually my point.  By the way, you mean the United States of America (and, to some extent, Canada).  The indigenous people of "America," in general, have NOT been put on reservations.

Australia was intended as a penal colony.  Yes, there were aborigines there, but that fact is irrelevant to Australia being intended as a penal colony.

The first Europeans in the modern era to "discover" Australia were the Dutch.  They had absolutely no intention of using the country as a penal colony.  When Captain Cook explored the east coast of Australia he certainly didn't recommend it as a penal colony.  That idea came only after further exploration, and some bright spark in Whitehall (or the equivalent) thinking that it would be a good idea to send the worst of Great Britain's prisoners to the other side of the world.

Australia's treatment of their Aboriginal population is one of the more shameful episodes of colonisation.

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Re: Presidents will be Democrats forever more
« Reply #30 on: November 10, 2016, 05:00:38 PM »
Duh!  :cluebat:  Nor did anybody else in prehistory.

What does that have to do with Christianity?  Wherever the earliest inhabitants of North America came from, and whatever colour they may have been, they WEREN'T Christians.

Sparta, Rome, Athens, Egypt, Sumeria from what little we know of it, all were either modern enough nation-states or city-states.

And I didn't say anything about Christianity... Bee Farmer can speak for himself.

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Re: Presidents will be Democrats forever more
« Reply #31 on: November 10, 2016, 05:40:46 PM »
some bright spark in Whitehall (or the equivalent) thinking that it would be a good idea to send the worst of Great Britain's prisoners to the other side of the world.
Because by 1783 the former American colonies were no longer a convenient dumping ground for them ;).
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Re: Presidents will be Democrats forever more
« Reply #32 on: November 10, 2016, 05:45:14 PM »
Because by 1783 the former American colonies were no longer a convenient dumping ground for them ;).

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Re: Presidents will be Democrats forever more
« Reply #33 on: November 10, 2016, 05:53:13 PM »
Excellent job Sandro I snorted when I laughed at that one  :D
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Re: Presidents will be Democrats forever more
« Reply #34 on: November 11, 2016, 02:50:16 AM »
Sparta, Rome, Athens, Egypt, Sumeria from what little we know of it, all were either modern enough nation-states or city-states.

Your comprehension skills are really taking a beating, aren't they?  I specifically mentioned "pre-history" - none of the five you mention can be remotely considered as pre-historic.

And I didn't say anything about Christianity... Bee Farmer can speak for himself.

Of course you didn't, and of course he can - so why did you post a reply to something that specifically mentioned Christianity, and was waiting for a response on that basis?


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Re: Presidents will be Democrats forever more
« Reply #35 on: November 11, 2016, 02:52:24 AM »
Because by 1783 the former American colonies were no longer a convenient dumping ground for them ;).

Maybe not, but it appears that some of their descendants are alive and well!  In any case, it's now a mark of honour for many Australians to find a convict somewhere in their ancestry.

 

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