The question of photos & privacy!

[KenC]

Nah, Sandro,
I just thought it would be easier to see the responses better.
KenC

[Son of Clyde]

Someone said if you post a photo you take your chances that it may be "lifted" and posted on another site. We should hold ourselves accountable to do the right thing. Manchester, I don't think this was a good thing to do.

When I first saw a picture of KenC I saw a guy with grey hair and somewhat overweight. I did not see a bad looking guy and judging from his wife's expression neither does she.

If people are happy, they look good together and age or physical appearance should not enter into it.

When I saw Turboguy's photo the first time I saw a man who looks at least 10 years younger than his age. When I met Turboguy in person I saw a very youthful looking guy slightly older than myself.

People tell me I look younger than my chronoligical age by maybe 5 years. Sometimes to butter me up they say I look 45. I don't know whether to believe them but it makes me feel good.

The bottom line is, are you happy with yourself?

[KenC]

Here's what doesn't make any sense to me, Clyde.  Manchester brought Lena and I into the viking thread as an example of how a visually mismatched couple is doomed. The only sense I can make from his actions is that he was purposely out to ridicule us because we were far from a good example of the point he was trying to make.  In fact, our marriage is evidence that visually mismatched couples (according to his opinion) can succeed.

 First of all that opinion is entirely subjective.  I know that Lena and her Mom discussed my photo when I first sent it to her in Russia.  Much like Olga S. said in her post on the viking thread.  They both were very favorably impressed. In this case it is only Lena's opinion that matters, not Manchester's.

 There is a whole lot more to consider other than how well matched a couple looks in photos together. It is much more important how the couple's personalities and character traits blend together.  There is also one's demeanor to consider or the persona that one projects to others.  There are so many more things to consider other than a two dimensional photograph.

The sad thing about Manchester's actions is that now members may be reluctant to post their photos if he is going to ridicule them.  I for one throughly enjoyed the thread where almost everybody posted their photos.  I thought that that thread was a true "coming together" of RWD.  There was a warm fuzzy feeling here that will disappear with Manchester's tactics.
KenC

[SANDRO43]

I did not see a bad looking guy and judging from his wife's expression neither does she.

The photo does not show what he's doing under the table .

[Manny]

There is a whole lot more to consider other than how well matched a couple looks in photos together. It is much more important how the couple's personalities and character traits blend together.  There is also one's demeanor to consider or the persona that one projects to others.  There are so many more things to consider other than a two dimensional photograph.

I never said it was the bee all and end all Ken - in fact as you have worded the quote above, I agree with you. It is not a black and white issue. Actually I cite you as an example here and there to demonstate how seemingly visually mismatched couples have a succesful marriage - call that a backhanded compliment if you like.

Manchester,

If you want a *pissin'* contest, we can easily take this to the "No Holds Barred" section,,, your choice.  Otherwise I suggest you keep your assine little comments to yourself.  I've not seen a likeness of you, nor has KenC, as far as we are concerned you are as discribed above..

Take it where you like JB, I merely quoted a fact about a comment made by you - sorry if someone noticed! 

If you are so concerned about my likeness I shall link you to a group pic which will be elsewhere in the next week or two when it is published.

I await Kens next bold tirade with glee. 

[BillyB]

I shall link you to a group pic which will be elsewhere in the next week or two when it is published.

That's the spirit Manchester.

P.S. I agree with Ielocal.

[Manny]

And I agree with GaryC 

[prince_alfie]

I have no problems with posting my picture here... in fact, it has been modified and ridiculed quite often. I'm pretty tolerant. 

[Bruce]

I do not post photos of my wife and I or our daughter on this or any forum because my wife prefers that we are not "viewed" by any and everyone on the net for a number of reasons (some of which actually are sane) in no particular order:

1.  Evil eye
2.  We prefer anonymity
3.  In her city if someone sees a photo of us word will get around etc. and we do not need to be the object of other peoples imagination, discussion etc.  I do not need it here either. 
4.  Some Ahole on the net will somehow use the photos against us.

Now, I am happy to send photos of us on ofoto to friendly people we meet on this board as well as our friends and family. 

It really sickens me that Ken C has had his photo lifted, placed on another site and made the object of a discussion about he and his wife's suitability as a couple etc.  The thread on the other board should be squealched.  The individual who did the lifting should be reprimanded. 

Manchester, what is wrong with you?  You write well, are a prolific writer, and you often bring contrary opinions to this board - which is fine.  However, can you please stick within the course of human decency and stop attacking Ken C.  It is quite obvious you are just plain JEALOUS of Ken, his wife and his life.  Could you please just drop the attacks on him and stick to presenting your opinions based upon facts?  There is no need to personally attack, ridicule or denigrate your fellow board members. 

[Son of Clyde]

I have no problems with posting my picture here... in fact, it has been modified and ridiculed quite often. I'm pretty tolerant. 

Take that silly pancake off your head. Oops, I mean the rabbit's head.

[PeeWee]

I do not post photos of my wife and I or our daughter on this or any forum because my wife prefers that we are not "viewed" by any and everyone on the net for a number of reasons (some of which actually are sane) in no particular order:

1.  Evil eye
2.  We prefer anonymity
3.  In her city if someone sees a photo of us word will get around etc. and we do not need to be the object of other peoples imagination, discussion etc.  I do not need it here either. 
4.  Some Ahole on the net will somehow use the photos against us.

Now, I am happy to send photos of us on ofoto to friendly people we meet on this board as well as our friends and family. 

It really sickens me that Ken C has had his photo lifted, placed on another site and made the object of a discussion about he and his wife's suitability as a couple etc.  The thread on the other board should be squealched.  The individual who did the lifting should be reprimanded. 

Manchester, what is wrong with you?  You write well, are a prolific writer, and you often bring contrary opinions to this board - which is fine.  However, can you please stick within the course of human decency and stop attacking Ken C.  It is quite obvious you are just plain JEALOUS of Ken, his wife and his life.  Could you please just drop the attacks on him and stick to presenting your opinions based upon facts?  There is no need to personally attack, ridicule or denigrate your fellow board members. 

I don't often care to agree with KenC or jb, just not my type of guys. The thought processes are much different. But so what? What does irritate me is the photo, any photo, being used as a subject of discussion and or subjective oppinion. Viking was discussed, Clyde, Photoguy, now KenC. It is not right. I do not care who it is or why it is. It is simply not fair.

I have my opinions about any photo that I view. I just spent some time looking at some photos of my grandma and her sisters and their friends taken in around 1915. I had opinions form in my mind but that is where those opinions remained.

Why not leave the forum to thought provoking thought and debate. Discussion of people, places, and things as they relate to what it is that we are are after. The wily FSU woman and the pursuit thereof.

peewee 

[SANDRO43]

Take that silly pancake off your head. Oops, I mean the rabbit's head.

He can't do that, all its brain functions are now stored there, didn't you notice the sleepy look ? Typical of skull-to-pancake transplant .

The advantage is that it can store its mind in the fridge for safety reasons (you can estimate how frequently by its posts ).

[Rvrwind]

Here is one with my head shining in the sun.
I am having a chat with Harvey the rabbit on my right and the invisible man on my left.

You Know SOC, I can live with the fact that your bald as a babies touchy, in fact some women find that rather attractive, me I don't care whether you got hair or not, I base my likes or dislikes soley on a persons personality.
In that regard we deffinitly must speak to the issue of your two buddies "Harvey the rabbit on my right and the invisible man on my left". Now I'm no saint believe me but when Bear was tagging along for the ride (some of you will recall my sidekick, Bear) well we had a good time here & there but now I see a guy with two tag along pals & mine up & married Ms. White, a Polar Bear, so I gotta say, I'm just a little jealous, ROTFLMAO!!!!
I've come across a number of people over the years that have ridiculed Ken C & his relationship with his wife. Every damn one of them has been off base. I have never had the pleasure of meeting Ken in the flesh, although I do hope to one day, but we have exchanged e mails & PM's. However I have met his lovely wife (she is a Tver lady) & a nicer lady he couldn't have found. Their relationship or mine or anybody elses for that matter should not be up for debate by anyne anywhere unless you are invited by them to make comments. Why?? Because its non of your F******* buisness!!! Its called 'class' which sadly is much lacking in the world in general.
JMHO

[Manny]

I do not post photos of my wife and I or our daughter on this or any forum because my wife prefers that we are not "viewed" by any and everyone on the net for a number of reasons (some of which actually are sane) in no particular order:

1.  Evil eye
2.  We prefer anonymity
3.  In her city if someone sees a photo of us word will get around etc. and we do not need to be the object of other peoples imagination, discussion etc.  I do not need it here either. 
4.  Some Ahole on the net will somehow use the photos against us.

Now, I am happy to send photos of us on ofoto to friendly people we meet on this board as well as our friends and family. 

Well put - That I agree with.

It really sickens me that Ken C has had his photo lifted, placed on another site and made the object of a discussion about he and his wife's suitability as a couple etc.  The thread on the other board should be squealched.  The individual who did the lifting should be reprimanded. 

That was not the object of the photo. It appeared several pages on in a debate about age difefrences. I merely cited it as an example. The thread was pulled eventually and I was griefed then and now about it!

Manchester, what is wrong with you?  You write well, are a prolific writer, and you often bring contrary opinions to this board - which is fine.  However, can you please stick within the course of human decency and stop attacking Ken C.  It is quite obvious you are just plain JEALOUS of Ken, his wife and his life.  Could you please just drop the attacks on him and stick to presenting your opinions based upon facts?  There is no need to personally attack, ridicule or denigrate your fellow board members. 

Ken has not been attacked by me - its vice versa - go to page one and read again. He polluted an innocent thread with his ranting and raving. As for being jealous, I have never met the man nor his wife and know little of his life so he is of little consequence to me.

I don't often care to agree with KenC or jb, just not my type of guys. The thought processes are much different. But so what?

Now theres another comment I can agree with! 

[prince_alfie]

Let's settle with a fair bet. Once Manny gets married, we may have the prerogrative to view the wedding photographs of theirs and then KenC can pronounce a fair judgment. That way things are even and the score is settled.

Sounds good?

[KenC]

Manchester,
For over seven years I never posted photos of Lena and I.  I would only email photos to friends with a stern warning not to share them with anyone else.  Still, I had an incident on the old Planet Love where a troll posted our photo for mocking and ridicule.  So I even cut back on the emailed photos.  I guess there was a "friend" that wasn't so friendly.

RWD has evolved to a point where it has really become a friendly place.  I was comfortable in posting my photos here as were many others.  It was just a bunch of guys sharing family, fish and boat photos. Not once in that thread did anyone take a "shot" at anyone else.  There were times in the past when posters did take "shots" at a guy's woman.  Photoguy took a lot of grief that was way out of line.  (For the record, the most guilty party was banned)

Imagine my shock when you took it upon yourself to lift my photo here only to post it to RWG for ridicule and mocking purposes.  (For the record, whether I was a member of RWG or not is immaterial)  I am of the strong conviction that Dan is running a very classy forum here with very high standards.  He would never allow the reposting of photos for such purposes.  He has my great respect for that.

There are many members here that value their privacy.  That too is fine.  But when some choose to share their private photos here, we need to respect their choice in a mature fashion.  There should be no fear of ridicule or mocking, even if you have an opinion that the couple does not "look" like a good match in your eyes.  (As you have posted here about Lena and I)  Why is your opinion warrented when the photo was not posted for your approval?  Some opinions are best kept to yourself.  The photos were posted in the spirit of sharing something personal with friends here not as a target for your insults.  There is a much higher expectation of decency here than you seem to comprehend.
KenC

Manchester,
Where is the ranting, raving and attack?
KenC

[Manny]

Kenneth

My perception of "ranting and raving" is concluded by the fact that you pursue my posts to be critical with all the zeal of an IRS tax collector and when you find them you change the topic over to how you felt offended by a minor incident some time ago that happened on another forum. Which, incidentally, you may recall I apologised on both forums and to you personally for - perhaps I should mail you a pint of blood and a kidney too?

Learn to let go man - move on and be constructive eh? If you put as much effort into helping newbies and being constructive as you do in to harrasing me online everywhere you may be held in "enormous regard" by a few other people other than our host and a sprinkling of like minded older gentlemen who frequent these boards.

As regards the attack comment - I will retract that in reference to this particular thread as you have just insulted me a little on this one in your usual manner. You attack elsewhere and on other threads.

Now is this going to continue as the KenC & Manchucker show or are you going to act slightly more in accordance with your age and self perceived moral superiority? 

This is getting rather tiresome!

[Manny]

Let's settle with a fair bet. Once Manny gets married, we may have the prerogrative to view the wedding photographs of theirs and then KenC can pronounce a fair judgment. That way things are even and the score is settled.

Sounds good?

Yes - pictures are $10 and I accept Western Union, Paypal & Nochex!  - Maybe I should invite Hello Magazine?

[prince_alfie]

So is that $10 per picture or for the whole set? I prefer digital .jpgs if possible.

[KenC]

Manchester,
Just a few points here.  My post was on topic and the topic happened to be about photos.  Your past actions were well within the scope of the topic.  And on that point, you seem to choose to forget that you also happened to bring up my photo for ridicule on this forum after your apparently false sense of remorse you displayed from the first such action.  The way I see things are that you take exception to my participating in a thread when I have a different point of view from your own, but it is OK (in your mind) to continue your own (admittedly bad) behavior when and where you see fit.  Sorry, Charlie, the world just don't revolve around you.
KenC

[prince_alfie]

ego trip

Behavior or activities undertaken mainly out of vanity or for self-gratification. For example, She's really on an ego trip, trying out for the lead. [1960s]

[PeeWee]

ego trip

Behavior or activities undertaken mainly out of vanity or for self-gratification. For example, She's really on an ego trip, trying out for the lead. [1960s]

Will there be a trip report forthcoming on that ego trip?

Peevee

[Turboguy]

The colh hard reality is that there mismatchd couples are the norm. If we couldn't do better in the FSU than the USA we wouldn't even try. Couples like KenC and his lovely wife and Viking and his scammer are everywhere. I have not seen one guy on the tour I am on not choose a gal that was less mismatched. For anyone to ridicule any one just shows a lack off character.

[viking]

Turbo

I sincerely hope that you find someone, whether now or later who is right for you. I don't give a hang what she is or who she as long as it works for you and you get much joy out of it. You have been at this a lot longer and a lot harder than almost all of us put together and when you post  pic of you and her together it would be my pleasure to offer you the best toast around. And when it is finally my turn I hope you return the favor.

Viking

[ConnerVT]

The problem with discussing people whom are "mismatched" is due to using the wrong yardstick.  Making assumptions on superficial things as age and appearances is wrong as those are really minor issues compared to what is really important.

The bigger issue is matching each others needs.  Things like emotional support, lifestyles, child raising, goals and dreams are what truly make relationships work and last.  True, people of the same general age and development in their lives traditionally tend to share more of these important issues, but it is not necessarily a given conclusion.  There still is a wide range of differences.  Those with a wider spread of age may find a mutually beneficial relationship that meets both person's needs.

You can't judge a book by it's cover.