The Eligible-Bachelor Paradox

[John Gaunt]

Try to use some ingenuity in your thinking ML

For sure some stuff wouldn't work but other stuff would, at a three hour flight away it's makes it a goer for some stuff.

So we're not talking a perfect world here but one in which there may be options. In general course of action might depend a little on how healthy a person usually is. Stuff out of the blue can happen but I think in general some health insurance to pay for any real urgent issue will do.

If a guy is real geriatric and getting health issues every other week that's another issue.

Only other thing to do is life near the Ukrainian/EU border to hop over there and claim under the GHIC should anything happen

I guess when one is on the breadline, scrounging becomes a way of life and healthcare a luxury only necessitated by urgent needs.

BTW, Trench, under the GHIC it’s not free at the point of use like the NHS.
You’ll still need to cough up some cash.

[ML]

If a guy is real geriatric and getting health issues every other week that's another issue.

You mean some people won't get to that stage ???

[2tallbill]

You mean some people won't get to that stage ???

No, they will die of a burst appendix on a flight back to blighty

[Trenchcoat]

I guess when one is on the breadline, scrounging becomes a way of life and healthcare a luxury only necessitated by urgent needs.

BTW, Trench, under the GHIC it’s not free at the point of use like the NHS.
You’ll still need to cough up some cash.

Varies, some of its is free without you having to pay any cash. Anything not covered by the GHIC then the idea is that you have insurance to pay for that. In fact most insurance policies state that they won't pay for stuff where those costs would have been met by a GHIC (or previously EHIC) so it's imperative to get one if going to a country where the card is valid.

Most of the stuff a GHIC pays for is the initial Emergency situation and often direct operations needed for that at the time. Follow up procedures not necessarily. Those countries where the health care system includes more private aspects are likely to cover you for less under the scheme. Best explanation of the scheme is from the Government's own website on it.

I think it is a good scheme and one that could work even better for UK citizens now that there is potential for it to become valid in other countries outside Europe. The EHIC wasn't a specific EU scheme based on EU membership but most EU members were also members of the scheme hence why the UK can sign up to the EHIC scheme as part of our GHIC.

I've had but never used my EHIC when abroad, nor the previous E111 paper version that the card scheme replaced. I've always applied for them and rarely taken out health insurance when abroad. It's a handy saving not to as when young the odds of needing health cover when abroad that aren't covered by the EHIC (or GHIC) are pretty low. I've never had to go to hospital as a patient abroad, I've never had to go to hospital in this country as an emergency admission nor ever been in an ambulance or had to call one out for myself. It's always nice to know though that it is there should I need it without me directly having to dig into my pocket.

For stuff like extreme activities (i.e skiing, snowboarding, etc) I would always get insurance on top, silly not to). Stays in countries that are longer than a holiday or not covered or covered well by the scheme it's best to get insurance. Some countries like Belarus the Insurance is not very much and pretty cheap anyway. For stuff where extreme sports are not being done on holiday the Insurance can be pretty cheap.

For Ukraine where the scheme is not presently run I would get insurance now because of the virus. I've never bothered before as odds are pretty low of anything happening and if they did I can pay to get it sorted then and anything else get sorted back in the UK. Many countries I believe don't charge anyway if it's just Accident & Emergency help that is needed so all in all that's the way I've done stuff and it's worked out fine for me.

[John Gaunt]

Varies, some of its is free without you having to pay any cash. Anything not covered by the GHIC then the idea is that you have insurance to pay for that. In fact most insurance policies state that they won't pay for stuff where those costs would have been met by a GHIC (or previously EHIC) so it's imperative to get one if going to a country where the card is valid.

Most of the stuff a GHIC pays for is the initial Emergency situation and often direct operations needed for that at the time. Follow up procedures not necessarily. Those countries where the health care system includes more private aspects are likely to cover you for less under the scheme. Best explanation of the scheme is from the Government's own website on it.

I think it is a good scheme and one that could work even better for UK citizens now that there is potential for it to become valid in other countries outside Europe. The EHIC wasn't a specific EU scheme based on EU membership but most EU members were also members of the scheme hence why the UK can sign up to the EHIC scheme as part of our GHIC.

I've had but never used my EHIC when abroad, nor the previous E111 paper version that the card scheme replaced. I've always applied for them and rarely taken out health insurance when abroad. It's a handy saving not to as when young the odds of needing health cover when abroad that aren't covered by the EHIC (or GHIC) are pretty low. I've never had to go to hospital as a patient abroad, I've never had to go to hospital in this country as an emergency admission nor ever been in an ambulance or had to call one out for myself. It's always nice to know though that it is there should I need it without me directly having to dig into my pocket.

For stuff like extreme activities (i.e skiing, snowboarding, etc) I would always get insurance on top, silly not to). Stays in countries that are longer than a holiday or not covered or covered well by the scheme it's best to get insurance. Some countries like Belarus the Insurance is not very much and pretty cheap anyway. For stuff where extreme sports are not being done on holiday the Insurance can be pretty cheap.

For Ukraine where the scheme is not presently run I would get insurance now because of the virus. I've never bothered before as odds are pretty low of anything happening and if they did I can pay to get it sorted then and anything else get sorted back in the UK. Many countries I believe don't charge anyway if it's just Accident & Emergency help that is needed so all in all that's the way I've done stuff and it's worked out fine for me.

Trench........yadda yadda yadda.

For Ukraine, you have to get Covid insurance. It’s not an optional extra.
But the policies offer the bare minimum. If you do require hospitalisation and intensive care, god help you.

In fact, from what I’ve heard, if you want good medical treatment in Ukraine, you have to pay for it in the private clinics.
Even at Govt hospitals without backhanders you’re unlikely to get treated properly.

Of course, we know you like to do things on the cheap Trench. But at some point that’s going  to backfire on you.