Opening a can of worms

[groovlstk]

PS - High Maintenance is a deal breaker for me!  I could deal with leprosy before that.

Just the thought makes me want to run to the bathroom BLAAAAAA

FYI, I have yet to meet a Russian woman who is not high maintenance. (And I'm talking in an emotional sense.)

OK, I met a few who weren't, but they were either trying to scam me or they were indifferent to me.

[jinx13]

 I made the mistake my first time out of searching for the 9-10's, and ended up going to Russia for one of them. I can't complain, at least it got me off my ass and I actually jumped on a plane after a short correspondence.

 Yep, she was a 9-10, check her out in a previous topic, http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=3163.msg58809#new  the girl with black hair in Moscow pics.

 The problem is her personality and her heart made her like a 5    And with beauty comes vanity, lots of it in her case. She would stand in front of a mirror and say "ohhh beautiful"  It was funny the first couple of times, but then it just got a little weird. I truly had the feeling that she loved herself so much that there was no room in her heart to love another.

[Jumper]

kenc said

Boy, you ask some good questions!  MY opinion is that RW appear more beautiful than AW because of a few reasons.  #1 they are thinner and take more pride in their bodies than AW  #2 RW are not afraid to be sexy and are in general more feminine than AW  #3 They work hard to look their best at all times in public.

this is the best generality i have seen.

i see tons of beautiful women in chicago,
the key difference ?
might just be that fSU women *generally* walk everywhere, everyday.

as shallow as it may seem(but you did take this post to beauty onnly)
simply look around and take 15 pounds off every woman you see today, and put her in a culture where clothes and apperaerence are larger factors (like brazil or FSU) and where its looked UP TO,
 to be very sexy and feminine,
and you would see exactly the same in terms of the general publics perceptions of "beauty".

IMHO.

[Todd]

Groov,

I have to disagree about your comment about all FSU women being "high maintenance."  We both know at least one woman that isn't particularly high maintenance.  Don't you agree??

Todd

[ScottinCrimea]

I certainly wouldn't call my Ukrainian wife high maintenance.  I've been trying for a year to get her to buy a second pair of jeans.  I gave her money for winter boots this week and she went out and bought material and sewed new curtains for our apartment.  As long as there is bread in the house, she doesn't care whether or not she has a penny in her pocket.  Any ideas on how I can get her to spend more on herself?

[Kuna]

Any ideas on how I can get her to spend more on herself?

Ummm.. you do it for her?

Actually, no.  I did this with my ex-wife and it was a great day.  Prepare a really special day on her next birthday.

It took some preparation but it ended up being "a" highlight of our time together.

Make sure you know which stores she likes and visit them the day before and leave a small gift at each location. Make sure you tell the girls in the store what it's about and it's even better to watch their reaction when you visit the next day with your girl (Though I've read of cases in here jealousy or disdain over girls who have western husbands, so maybe this won't translate well in Ukr).

Anyway, the gifts could be things like:

- A "love letter"
- A small book YOU WRITE YOURSELF, about your family, marriage, love or her family, etc
- A framed photo
- A stack of "Wish Cards" that she can use in the future whenever she wants.  (Things like; Foot Massage, Drive in the Country, Gourmet Dinner Cooked at Home, Bubble bath with candles and soft music, raunchy weekend away... OK, the last one might be more for you than her, but I'm sure you know what I mean)

Anyway, on the special day get up early... cook breakfast for her (cooking yourself is better than a restaurant in my opinion), give her time to get ready and then set out for her "birthday surprise".

Take her to the first store and tell her that you want to buy her something special for her birthday.  If she's a typical female she might be upset you haven't bothered to shop beforehand but she'll get a BIG thrill when you go to pay and the shop attendant hands over the Love Letter. (When we did it the shop attendants were GUSHING, and that made it even better for my ex).

Next store, more browsing, more buying and the second "gift"...  and so it goes on. 

If you do it in the morning like we did the timing will be perfect to go somewhere nice for lunch, a sit down, chat, laugh and let me promise you, while it didn't save my marriage it was one of the best days we had.

Anyway,  it's cheesy I know,  but *grunt grunt* "the chicks love that cr4p!"   

Kuna...

(Oh, I hope this doesn't give you all the wrong impression of me.  I'm no pushover... I'm hard mate, HARD as nails...  hard as nicely manicured nails too I'll have you know!)   

[groovlstk]

Groov,

I have to disagree about your comment about all FSU women being "high maintenance."  We both know at least one woman that isn't particularly high maintenance.  Don't you agree??

Todd

You've got me there, Todd. But your wife is extraordinary and different than any Russian or Ukrainian woman I've ever met!

[CaptB]

I just wanted to concur with RVWind's first post on page 2 of this thread. I decided in the lates 90's that I would actively plan a trip to visit Russia. Originally the reason had nothing to do with finding a partner.....just a longtime interest in the country itself. Then in 1997 I purchased WebTV for internet access (best $99 I ever spent on an electronic product). In my research for trip planning....I came accross "A Pretty Woman" website. Although it was nice to see all of these attractive "under 30" FSU women claiming to be looking for Western men 10-20 years (or more) their senior.....I did'nt bite.......at least on that hook. I am not a bad-looking guy....never had a problem dating most of the women that caught my eye. My dating life was always satisfying.....and interesting. After my divorce at age 40.....I even dated a handfull of 22-24 y.o. college girls. All but one pursued me....they were the initiators
of a "date" beyond casual conversation. If I had only known to to practice a little appathy and a little less "trying to hard".......when I was younger. The young girls were fun......but they were "girls". I wanted a "woman".

At age 48.....I finally made plans to visit Russia. I was going on my own originally....then hooked up with a new friend who lived close.....who read a post of mine on the RWG forum. We were to do part of the trip together.....part separately.
He had been using the LTP agency in Tver and had found someone (now his wife). The agency found out I was coming to Russia (Moscow)....and contacted me. I wanted to see Moscow but also another city or two. The made me an offer that was very attractive........only a fraction of the normal charge. I bit. With "free" membership in hand.....I decided to contact a few women before departure (about three weeks)....and maybe go on a few dates. After actually meeting some of the women in Tver.....the possibility of an interest above dating......became a reality.
I met alot of beautiful "young" women......in the office....casually. Interesting....but not for me. I had "outgrown" the need to pursue very young women. Been there....done that. I wanted a real woman.....who would always keep some of the girl....."in" her.

I only contacted women over 30......hoping for over 35. The four women I met the very first day (great day!).....turned out to be the most interesting of the 20 or so that I met. Any one of them made the younger girls I saw.....seem less interesting.
Beautiful, educated, funny, energetic, playful..........I was overwhelmed that first day. All but two that I met had a child.

When it comes to women over 30 in Russia.....if you are not looking in that group.....you are missing out.....bigtime. When you date girls....you will always have to wonder "how" they will turn-out.......when the grow-up. With the older women....you will already know. My wife is 40.....beautiful and cute.....athletic, humorous, educated, intelligent.......and will always have some of the "girl" in her.

Just my two kopeks worth.

Capt B