Sorry, The guys in "Starting out" where scaring me.

[epf]

I will start out by saying, I am drawn to women or one women to the FSU. I will apoligize for one thing. I posted that the woman I met was not for me, I am sorry for saying that.  It was me, not her. The woman from the FSU are like taking a roller coaster ride.

I wish, to have open communication and honest.  For those who have one, try to help me. People that hate, move on.

epf



 

[jb]

epf,

What's your problem?

[epf]

Your question was proper. I would not be giving hints, I will gather my thoughts, and state my questions. Thanks for asking.

epf

[Maxx2]

You need a good scare :hairraising: or be very very lucky. Go to the Scams section and read my thread on page 1 or 2 "The Best of Intentions meet the Worst of Intentions".


Maxx

[Shadow]

If you do not like roller coasters, do not take a ride 
Try to give some information when you want to ask something. On a  short question without information, you are bound to get some scary answers.

[catzenmouse]

I agree that the questions asked were rather "foggy" in nature. To get clear answers, we need clear questions.

We're always (or almost always) nicer to people in the Starting Out section than we are here. If you were scared there then you may need to keep your heart medication and oxygen handy...

Ken

[ScottinCrimea]

One experience with an FSU woman and you say they are all like a roller coaster ride?  This is like saying, "All Indians walk single file.....at least the one I saw did."

[Michelangelo]

Fear can be a good thing, if it comes from knowledge and it gives you respect for the difficulties that lie ahead...

Looking back now, I don't know why in the world I sought an fsu woman.   It makes everything difficult....

But I'm glad I did.

You just need to heed the advice you get here; it can same you from taking some wrong paths....

[epf]

What all posted here is correct. The most true, it the roller coaster answer. I understand. Still working on my thoughts. I understand, about where I post.

[Turboguy]

Without a clear undersanding of your question I would like to make one comment. We talk about the Russian soul and the characteristics FSU women have however they are still individuals with their own unique qualities. I have been seriously involved with two FSU women who were both as different as could be. Don't let one bad experience stop you but not everyone is right for an FSU woman. That you will need to decide.

[I/O]

The woman from the FSU are like taking a roller coaster ride.

I like "Roller Coasters".


I/O

[Wist]

It's neither good or bad, just interesting, but as for the various people I have met personally (I have met many) I thought they tended to be more dramatic when they expressed themselves (happy, sad, or angry), at least more so than what I am used to in my own life. This includes my girlfriend too. Because of this, I will have some interesting memories to take into my old age. Maybe this is what epf is trying to say? If so, I suggest that he embrace it, it will enrich his life's experience.

[epf]

Sorry, I have been out of the country, working. I will cut to the chase or I will lose my train of thought. I did not have a bad experience. I did not have expectations,sorry, I did and they were all wrong.  Ok, I will try to keep it pithy.

I am not sure if I am dealing with a cold fish or just a tough nut to crack. This is why I am here. Some people here know a load more then me.

Ok, meeting is a get to know you.

Really not much to it. Honestly, not much at all. I am a good people person and I would say it was just as strange for her as it was for me. She can not speak english. Boy, not good. Any translator machine does not work. People only work. The only luck getting her to open up was through a friend that could speak english about 45%. That was a second translator. The first was her mom's co-worker's daughter. The girl would not open up and I came to find out did not trust her. The girl that I was visiting said she thought the translator liked me. Any who, I already know.

Damn, are all women FSU such cold fish at first or second. I really not asking if all, how about your experience? Just being nice. Like help walking with very high heels on a side walk that really sucks, no really sucks.

I am a patient and caring person. I am not looking for a mindless person. I have come to enjoy the challenge. Sometimes you don't know or understand until you are in the middle of the storm. Then you forget where you started and where you want to finish.

I am more then willing to do what it takes for success, what ever that maybe. Travel, time, emotions.

Sh!t, sometimes it feels like you are just hitting your head on a endless brick wall.

One question, is this normal?

ps. this has nothing to do with money or scam or grassy knoll_oliver stone stone type stuff.

Be real, thanks

epf

[joty]

your posts are really confusing and hard to read..i dont know where you are coming from but if you are hear for help my i suggest you speak more clearly.  If you have questions ask them straight out.

[Kuna]

Sorry, I have been out of the country, working. I will cut to the chase or I will lose my train of thought. I did not have a bad experience. I did not have expectations,sorry, I did and they were all wrong.  Ok, I will try to keep it pithy.

I am not sure if I am dealing with a cold fish or just a tough nut to crack. This is why I am here. Some people here know a load more then me.

Ok, meeting is a get to know you.

Really not much to it. Honestly, not much at all. I am a good people person and I would say it was just as strange for her as it was for me. She can not speak english. Boy, not good. Any translator machine does not work. People only work. The only luck getting her to open up was through a friend that could speak english about 45%. That was a second translator. The first was her mom's co-worker's daughter. The girl would not open up and I came to find out did not trust her. The girl that I was visiting said she thought the translator liked me. Any who, I already know.

Damn, are all women FSU such cold fish at first or second. I really not asking if all, how about your experience? Just being nice. Like help walking with very high heels on a side walk that really sucks, no really sucks.

I am a patient and caring person. I am not looking for a mindless person. I have come to enjoy the challenge. Sometimes you don't know or understand until you are in the middle of the storm. Then you forget where you started and where you want to finish.

I am more then willing to do what it takes for success, what ever that maybe. Travel, time, emotions.

Sh!t, sometimes it feels like you are just hitting your head on a endless brick wall.

One question, is this normal?

ps. this has nothing to do with money or scam or grassy knoll_oliver stone stone type stuff.

Be real, thanks

epf

epf,

Where are you from?  Which country?

Your post really confuses me because of the confused (or poor) English.  I think your question is, "are all women FSU such cold fish during the first or second meeting?"... but I'm not sure.  There's not really enough info there to know why you're banging your head against the brick wall...  but that would be the first thing I'd stop.   

Honestly... I'd love to help you but you really haven't posted enough digestible information and I'm not sure what your situation is.

I could imagine, but that wouldn't help either huh!

[Bruce]

EPF - If a woman from the FSU likes you, you'll know it in short order.  I believe that the woman you met is not into you because you describe her as a "cold fish."  Chances are she was just being polite with you, may like you as a friend but the chance of real romance with her is zero, so move on to the next girl.

[timothe]

I agree with what Bruce said. (Hi Bruce!) I met someone similiar in my first trip to Novosibirsk.  I would have never gone a 2nd time had I not stopped in a nightclub on the last day of my trip.  (where I discovered I was in high demand )

[Jumper]

It's hard to understand the question..

but no not all RW are cold fish or distant.

if you feel you are beating your head against a brick wall..
that can happen with any woman anywhere   


the biggest mistake i have seen men make in this venture ,
is to waste time and effort on someone who is obviuosly not that interested in them.

of course thats the same *mistake* i see locally as well?

anyway the short answer is:
wether on your own street or in the FSU..
if a woman is really interested in you, you will know it.

if you cant tell, then ask direct questions ,
get direct answers,
or simply move on.

your life will be much more enjoyable.

[epf]

Kuna, I am from North america. Yes, I have a issue, My brain works faster the my fingers. I will try harder to write the kings english.

Thanks for the people that gave me the cut and dry answers. I did not give very much to go on.

The more I understand, the more I learn. They are not much different then girls you meet everyday. But, they are more insecure.

I find it impossible to roll into a different country, lay eyes on a new girl, and everything is perfect. No, matter how much you write and call.

If is is like you own streets, it still takes face time.

I guess it is normal when you walk off a plane never see each other before, it is strange. Hence, cold fish.

The one thing that I think you give WFSU, is they are very smart. They are more concerned about you.

Just a tidbit of thought.

Kuna, my first language is pig Latin.

Just my thought from a dumb a$$


Erin

[jb]

epf,

If a RW is interested in you, you will know it.

I must have made that statement about a million times.  If your RW girl friend isn't walking close, arm-in-arm, as you are out and about. if she isn't leaning close to catch your every word, if she doesn't laugh at your silly jokes, if she doesn't arch her neck and smile as she looks at you, if she doesn't show you off to her friends, if she doesn't take you home to meet her family,,, she isn't interested in a future with you.

Time to cut your losses and move on to a woman who IS interested.

Damn~! This is "Dating 101"...

[TwoBitBandit]

Truer words have not been spoken.

Cut your losses early, my friends.