What is Love for you and Do you believe in the other half?

[TexasBoar]

How can someone quote the Bible and then say, "the human heart is inherently selfish and self seeking"?

Isn't that what Bible-quoters generally believe? Or have I been misinformed?

~Boar

[Gator]

Boar,

Some probably do; however, none of my Southern Baptist pastors ever subscribed to such. 

Perhaps I was lucky that my parents chose positive thinking pastors. 

I think we best not say anymore so as to not take this thread off topic.  Besides, I know nothing else to say other than my youth left me with two words imprinted in my mind to define the Christian doctrine:   "Love" and "forgiveness".


I was just taken back by a definition of love that had what I saw as a major inconsistency in its thesis.

[Son of Clyde]

My definition of love is putting someone elses needs before your own.

It is living up to your promises.

It is never going to bed angry.

It has nothing to do with status or income but everything to do with protection and security.

[TexasBoar]

I think we best not say anymore so as to not take this thread off topic.  Besides, I know nothing else to say other than my youth left me with two words imprinted in my mind to define the Christian doctrine:   "Love" and "forgiveness".

Probably a good call! There should be at least ONE thread here that doesn't go off the rails! 

I will say, though, that my own upbringing left me with a considerably different impression . . . small wonder that I chose to return to more ancient ways that don't consider me "fallen," or women the source of all evil and despair in the world.

But that is absolutely all I have to say about that . . . in THIS thread. 

~Boar

[Mir]

I will say, though, that my own upbringing left me with a considerably different impression . . . small wonder that I chose to return to more ancient ways that don't consider me "fallen," or women the source of all evil and despair in the world

You should not Catholic ideology and views as the definite form of Christianity.

[TexasBoar]

You should not [missing verb?]Catholic ideology and views as the definite form of Christianity.

I wasn't raised Catholic. Trust me . . . they don't own the market on that.

But please, follow Gator's lead.  Let's not muck up the thread.  If you corner me into a rational discussion of my beliefs, and the reasons for them, there are several members here whose heads will just flat explode. 

~Boar

[Mir]

there are several members here whose heads will just flat explode. 

That would be an interesting spectacle hehehe
Anyway no more discusion on religious beliefs.

[Jazzyclassy]

Yeah thank you guys

we should not discuss religion here
 
it is actually very private topic , cos each of us believe in what he believes

and yes Gator once again nice point it is a very good thing Love and Forgiveness -Da I agree:) cos without forgiveness it is hard to carry on and just love

My definition of love is putting someone elses needs before your own.

It is living up to your promises.

It is never going to bed angry.

It has nothing to do with status or income but everything to do with protection and security.

Thank you SoC I also thought about this and it is definitely  about Love

Thank you all for participation in this interesting topic and discussion for me

I found some new points here and am sure it was interesting for all of us to be a little romantic and to open our hearts to talk about love here

I enjoyed a lot thank you

If anyone of you still have something to say please you are welcome

I actually have a lot to talk about love cos that is just such a feeling, I can write a dissertation about Love   like my boy says sometimes:P

[Mir]

JC

For your topic and near your birthday advice from the great Roman philosopher and poet:

In this last case, as I have explained, the thing in us that responds to the stimulus is the seen that comes with ripening years and strengthening limbs. For different things respond to different stimuli or provocations. The one stimulus that evokes human seed from the human body is a human form. As soon as this seed is dislodged from its resting place, it travels through every member of the body, concentrating at certain reservoirs in the lions, and promptly acts upon the generative organs. These organs are stimulated and swollen by the seed. Hence follows the will to eject it in the direction in which the tyrannical lust is tugging. The body makes for the source from which the mind is pierced by love. For the wounded normally fall in the direction of their wound: the blood spurts out towards the source of the blow; and the enemy who delivered it, if he is fighting at close quarters, is bespattered by the crimson stream. So, when a man is pierced by the shafts of Venus, whether they are launched by a lad with womanish limbs or a woman radiating love from her whole body, he strives towards the source of the wound and craves to be united with it and to transmit something of his own substance from body to body. His speechless yearning is a presentiment of bliss.
This then, is what we term Venus. This it the origin of the thing called love-that drop of Venus’ honey that first drips into out heart, to be followed by numbing heart-ach. Though the object of your love may be absent, images of it still haunt you and the beloved name chimes sweetly in your ears. If you find yourself thus passionately enamoured of an individual, you should keep well away from such images. Thrust from you anything that might feed your passion, and turn your mind elsewhere. Vent the seed of love upon other objects. By clinging to it you assure yourself the certainty of heart-sickness and pain. With nourishment the festering sore quickens and strengthens. Day by day the frenzy heightens and the grief deepens. Your only remedy is to lance the first wound with new incisions; to salve it, while it is still fresh, with promiscuous attachments; to guide the motions of your mind into some other channel.
(Lucretius 99-55 BC)

[WmGO]

Gator,

All I did was *quote* what Scripture says about the subject of love. You can accept what it says or not.

When someone asks  "What is love " there is no more logical response than to go to God's Word for the answer. Of course that makes some people uncomfortable, which is also illogical, but you know on these dang 'ol anonymous
internet forums there is plenty of "diversity"

Jazzy, refer you to the  first sentence of the second paragraph....

The interesting thing is that the Biblical definition does
not seem to be very different from what most have said here: love is sacraficial, charitable, forgiving, patient , kind, nurturing , seeks what is best for the other, etc.....another reason why it is so peculiar one would get upset with a Biblical reference....odd very odd indeed

[Gator]

WmGO,

I am not upset, never was.  Life is too short to become upset, to drink cheap wine, etc.

You had spent a lot of time prepaaring your post and it is appreciated.  My comment would fall in the category of "nit picking".

But you and I both know what happens when a thread touches upon religion.

[XD40]

Love for me is this...
Love is everything from the heart, it’s a craving felt inside and out.
It holds unavoidable gravity that makes people express their emotions.
It’s a spark that heightens our senses and provides us with emotional wealth and mental highs.
Love gives us happiness, desire and rhythm.
It allows us to avoid complacency and loneliness.
It gives us strength in our soles and makes us feel alive and real!
Love is refreshing and an irrevocable friendship.
Love is wild and untamed. It gives us true sight of an unclear future.
Love is a messenger. It allows us to here even though nothing is said.
Love is first and foremost.
Love is about sharing, taking and receiving.
Knowing you are in love takes all of this and more….

[Jazzyclassy]

Amazing I am pleased with the opinions:)


The most important thing is that Love is always great and enormous and always happy, no matter that we do have mistakes about Love , tears and disappointments but still Love it is always for the best! who experienced it once will never regret it , it is such a super feeling:)

Even though Love can hurt sometimes, it is ok for us to experience it cos we need to know  both sides of Love , like any thing Life has its black and white and so on..


I wish everyone such  love which will always go together with friendship and wisdom as much as possible:) forever love:)

[wiz]

Amazing I am pleased with the opinions:)


The most important thing is that Love is always great and enormous and always happy, no matter that we do have mistakes about Love , tears and disappointments but still Love it is always for the best! who experienced it once will never regret it , it is such a super feeling:)

Even though Love can hurt sometimes, it is ok for us to experience it cos we need to know  both sides of Love , like any thing Life has its black and white and so on..


I wish everyone such  love which will always go together with friendship and wisdom as much as possible:) forever love:)

Bravo......

[LEGAL]

Love is patient.

love is kind.

Love does not envy.

Love does not boast.

Love is not proud.

Love is not rude.

Love is not self-seeking.

Love is not easily angered.

Love keeps no record of wrongs.

Love does not delight in evil, but rejoices with the truth.

Love always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

Love never fails.

(1 Corinthians 13:4-8)


There is not any age, time and distance for Love in the World.

Olga.

[Jazzyclassy]

      There is not any age, time and distance for Love in the World.

Olga.


           

Only in ideal heaven  place dear Olga:) I underlined the thing you were trying to emphasize so much

[LEGAL]

Only in ideal heaven  place dear Olga:) I underlined the thing you were trying to emphasize so much

The Bible says: "God is LOVE".  Jazzy, how old is LOVE?

Olga.

[Jazzyclassy]

We are not talking about love towards God towards Family  my grandfather my grandmother, Love towards friends and so on , as you know there are different types of Love


Love to a Man has age !!!!!!!!!!! If I want to create a family with this man and love him spiritually and physically For Me, Age gap Love is very important and it exists

Of course you can cite Pushkin as much as you wish that Love has no age and so on , let it be, for you ,

If you are so happy and in harmony Why are you trying to prove to me things about Love and Age?

Enjoy your  love you are lovely nice couple , just do not make me feel guilty that I do think that Love towards a Man has age.

And before my topic will be ruined till death with your pointing out about Age matter,  I would like to remind you we have special 2 topics devoted to age, you are more than welcome to post there about your research and proves of Love with no age but remember only love towards a man

[Jazzyclassy]

According to my research recently for some people there are other halfs but again I am not still convinced that they are really existing in the first place

though my friend she told me that she believes there are ones, as she considers herself and her hubby to be halfs, cos she was explaining that he is that guy who is everything for her, fully understands her, loves her , respects her and so on  .......

And I asked myself why some people think that they  have their other halfs and believe in that and just talk about their relations as an ideal thing , then it struck me that for my friend this boy was the first and the only one , she never had any other experience that is why she is thinking like that

My boy is an amazing wonderful perfect hot amazingly smart , wise understanding man, very kind boy

But I truly believe that he was like that when he was single without me, I did not make anything of him , of course we complete each other in this or that way,

Well I hope time will show me what is that other half thing, whether it truly exists or it is called something different.............

[LEGAL]

Jazzy,

I'm not trying to prove anything.  I just think that the true love has not age and time and true love doesn't deny God's truth even if it is love of woman to man or man to woman 

Olga.

[Jet]

The Bible says: "God is LOVE".
Olga.

The Bible also says:
"Лучше жить в углу на кровле, нежели со сварливою женою в пространном доме."
for the po-russki challenged:
It is better to dwell on a corner of the roof, than with a brawling woman in a big house.

Anybody seen Robert lately?

Before jazzy can answer...

Jazzy, how old is LOVE?

...you should at least give her the courtesy of your interpretation of which kind of love is being discussed in the quoted passage 
English is one of the rare languages that has only a single word to describe many possibilities. Certainly God's love for the Motherland has no age and time restrictions, but perhaps the possibility exists  Of course true love of a homosexual nature fits well within the guidelines of your quote from Corinthians as well

Romantic love is a decision that is consciously made by a person. Whilst another person may have mutual feelings at some point along the way, it is NOT a reciprocal agreement at it's inception. Because it's a personal decision, nobody can dictate the rules by which another individual decides to love another. Just because age isn't important to you, doesn't mean it can not be considered by others - matter of fact, it IS important to me, and I had some grave reservations when I found out Liliya's age. They were overcome with time, but not immediately.

[LEGAL]

Jet and Jazzy,

I'm not try to dictate the rules  Of course you are right that it is personal decision. Even if I say about love between woman and man there is not any age for love - person can be in love when he/she is 20 y.o. or 30 y.o. or 40y.o. or 60 y.o and and so on     Maybe I'm mistaken...  Can you abstract your mind from the age gap? 

Olga.

[Jet]

person can be in love when he/she is 20 y.o. or 30 y.o. or 40y.o. or 60 y.o and and so on 

is *NOT* the same as:

There is not any age, time and distance for Love in the World.

Seem like similar enough wording, but the top statement I agree with and the bottom one I do not.
To be honest, the first thing that popped into my head when I read the lower statement was an old saying that goes something like -
"I'm not particular, I'll date them all; eight to eighty, blind, crippled, or crazy!"
It is indeed a very, very, rare individual that does not self-impose some restriction on their own decision to love.

Getting back to the topic of the thread  . My belief is that out in the world there is a type of person that is the "other half" for each of us. I think it's naive to think there is only one single person in all the world that we are meant to be with. I feel that there are hundreds, maybe even thousands of "other halves" out there for everyone. Most of them (perhaps for some, even all of them) will be out of reach of us due to geographic, age, and language obstacles. That's why it's still wonderful and fantastic to find someone who seems to complete you, and reciprocates your decision to love   

[LEGAL]

There is not any age for love.  People can be in love independently of their age.

There is not any time for love. Is a summer season is different for love than a winter season?

There is not any distance for love. Does love of man expire when this man has to leave his loving woman because of his official duty?

I just use simple and primitive examples  to explain my words. May be later I will right "philosophical"  treatise 

Olga.

[SANDRO43]

The origin of the "other half" concept is usually attributed to theories on reincarnation (soulmates who have spent previous lifetimes together).

In Plato's Symposium, Aristophanes puts forward another interesting theory:

Originally humans were combined of 4 arms, 4 legs, and a single head made of 2 faces, but Zeus feared their power and split them all in half, condemning them to spending their lives searching for the other half to complete them (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soulmate)