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Offline corncrowe

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« on: August 13, 2005, 10:19:26 AM »
I think an agencies credibility is important.  Some agencies have long histories on the internet and not always good.  There is no Better Business Bureau (BBB) for marriage agencies, so what can you do? 
Investigate an agency and find out if there are any complaints from people who have done business with them in the past.  Check and re-check.  There are so many types of fraudulent agencies out there that it's hard to distinguish a good one from a bad one.
I recently had an exchange with Jack Bragg who reminded me of scammers, so I decided to review his history.  Below are some links from unhappy customers or people with limited experience dealing with Jack Bragg:
I suggest you do the homework and find out if any agency you're dealing with has a questionable past.


Jon


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Posted by Cal on February 06, 2002 at 12:38:06:
In Reply to: Try Jack at..... posted by Patrick on January 22, 2002 at 08:52:46:
The used car conman JacK Bragg[/b], has been caught on numerous boards posting under many alias's, trying to self promote his scam agency with fake testimony,
Thsi guy is a conma, a lier, and will uses any and all deciet he can to amake a doLLAR, NO MATTER WHO , OR WHAT HE HAS TO DO.
he was caught posting as Fred Walter on the RWG board http://rwguide.com/discus/messages/280/2157.html?1012327896#POST15239

Here's the reference FirstDreams]http://www.brama.com/travel/messages/18621.html+%22jack+bragg%22&hl=en]FirstDreams[/url]
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It was then that I began asking questions of people and I was recommended by a gentleman called Jack Bragg to email an agency http://www.lugan-girl.com. I was interested in the Ukraine due to its size compared to Russia and specifically a lovely area called Lugansk, which is in the East of the Ukraine. You may have heard of Lugansk before, but probably due to all the scam agencies and scam girls who operate there. Yes it is true I have had an encounter with one and also seen all the bad press on the net. But luckily for me and for my now fiancée Olga I found the only registered and trustworthy agency that I know of in Lugansk.

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Don't forget to ask what are agency relationships.  Sometimes, like FirstDreams they have an association with other agencies, like KhersonGirls.

If they recommend the services of the other agency then you must decide if it is a "conflict of interest". 

It's not always in your best interest to be "referred" to another agency who quite possible "vested" interest in that agency.

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Here's another post from RWG about FirstDreams:

The legend of Jack


I believe the JACKISBACK would be a reference to the infamous Jack Bragg AKA barryM.

For some reason he managed to upset just about everyone on the old RWG board, get banned from here and carry on over at planet love. some guy went as far as hijacking a Network 51 Travel board to continue his anti Jack sentiment.

Nothing makes me laugh harder than someone mentioning JackBragg AKA BarryM.

ho hum.


http://russianwomenguide.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=226789&highlight=jack+bragg#226789



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[align=justify]So, take what you read here and decide which agency is best suited for your needs.  An honest agency will not attempt to "deceive" or mislead you by posing as "one of the guys".[/align]
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« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2005, 10:35:53 AM »
Quote from: corncrowe
I think an agencies credibility is important. Some agencies have long histories on the internet and not always good. There is no Better Business Bureau (BBB) for marriage agencies, so what can you do?
Investigate an agency and find out if there are any complaints from people who have done business with them in the past. Check and re-check. There are so many types of fraudulent agencies out there that it's hard to distinguish a good one from a bad one.
I recently had an exchange with Jack Bragg who reminded me of scammers, so I decided to review his history. Below are some links from unhappy customers or people with limited experience dealing with Jack Bragg:
I suggest you do the homework and find out if any agency you're dealing with has a questionable past.


Jon


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Posted by Cal on February 06, 2002 at 12:38:06:
In Reply to: Try Jack at..... posted by Patrick on January 22, 2002 at 08:52:46:
The used car conman JacK Bragg[/b], has been caught on numerous boards posting under many alias's, trying to self promote his scam agency with fake testimony,
Thsi guy is a conma, a lier, and will uses any and all deciet he can to amake a doLLAR, NO MATTER WHO , OR WHAT HE HAS TO DO.
he was caught posting as Fred Walter on the RWG board http://rwguide.com/discus/messages/280/2157.html?1012327896#POST15239

Here's the reference FirstDreams]http://www.brama.com/travel/messages/18621.html+%22jack+bragg%22&hl=en]FirstDreams[/url]
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It was then that I began asking questions of people and I was recommended by a gentleman called Jack Bragg to email an agency http://www.lugan-girl.com. I was interested in the Ukraine due to its size compared to Russia and specifically a lovely area called Lugansk, which is in the East of the Ukraine. You may have heard of Lugansk before, but probably due to all the scam agencies and scam girls who operate there. Yes it is true I have had an encounter with one and also seen all the bad press on the net. But luckily for me and for my now fiancée Olga I found the only registered and trustworthy agency that I know of in Lugansk.

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Don't forget to ask what are agency relationships. Sometimes, like FirstDreams they have an association with other agencies, like KhersonGirls.

If they recommend the services of the other agency then you must decide if it is a "conflict of interest".

It's not always in your bestinterest to be "referred" to another agency who quite possible "vested" interest in that agency.

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Here's another post from RWG about FirstDreams:

The legend of Jack


I believe the JACKISBACK would be a reference to the infamous Jack Bragg AKA barryM.

For some reason he managed to upset just about everyone on the old RWG board, get banned from here and carry on over at planet love. some guy went as far as hijacking a Network 51 Travel board to continue his anti Jack sentiment.

Nothing makes me laugh harder than someone mentioning JackBragg AKA BarryM.

ho hum.


http://russianwomenguide.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=226789&highlight=jack+bragg#226789



[align=justify]There are fifty-three references to Jack Bragg at this site.[/align]

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[align=justify]Another site where "JackisBack":[/align]

[align=justify]http://www.russianwomenabroad.com/forum_eng/viewforum.php?f=2[/align]
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[align=justify]So, take what you read here and decide which agency is best suited for your needs. An honest agency will not attempt to "deceive" or mislead you by posing as "one of the guys".[/align]
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Jon, I am going to let this post stand - so that Jack can have an opportunity to respond. But with his response, this little 'tiff' of yours will end.

One of the provisos for posting in this section is that the negative experiences were to have been first-hand. You are not sharing YOUR experiences, but copying posts/comments from elsewhere. I consider this sullying behavior of the worst kind - rumor-mongering might be more apt.

Tone it down Jon - your presence at RWD has been welcomed and you have made some great conributions. I am especially impressed with your handling of one of our RW denizens. Please try to keep your emotions on this topic in check.

- Dan

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« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2005, 10:51:04 AM »
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Jon, I am going to let this post stand - so that Jack can have an opportunity to respond. But with his response, this little 'tiff' of yours will end.

One of the provisos for posting in this section is that the negative experiences were to have been first-hand. You are not sharing YOUR experiences, but copying posts/comments from elsewhere. I consider this sullying behavior of the worst kind - rumor-mongering might be more apt.

Tone it down Jon - your presence at RWD has been welcomed and you have made some great conributions. I am especially impressed with your handling of one of our RW denizens. Please try to keep your emotions on this topic in check.

- Dan
Dan,

I've kept my mouth shut about past experince with FirstDreams.  I only had one experience, and it was questionable.  I can't say I was cheated or that I was taken advantage of, so I'll just post the facts.  Others can make their own judgement.

I sent an email to Russian Bride List is early May requesting help with an apartment in Kiev.  It was Eurovision and I had some extra time to kill.  Jack was kind enought to offer me an apartment.  I accepted, and was under the impression that the cost was around $60.00 a day.

When I arrived and was taken to the apartment.  His manager, Galina, told me that it was now $80.00 a day.  Prior to Eurovision I could rent it for $60.00 a day.  Okay, I have no choice but to pay $400.00 for five days.  Maybe I was mistaken in the price, but who knows?  I was told by Rob that he and an acquaintance could have helped me for less.

Next, I went out with Galina the second night I was there.  We, Galina and I, along with her friend went to dinner and later to a disco.  I had a few too many drinks and was pretty wasted.  So, I pulled the money out of my wallet and gave it to Galina.  Because I trusted her.

I mistakenly had "most likely" mixed a $100 euro note in with the Ukrainian money and gave it to her.  She dropped me off later that evening and I fell asleep, alone.  The next morning, I looked in my wallet and it was empty.  I remember giving her my money and couldn't figure out what happened to the euro.  I thought maybe I had accidently given it to her and mentioned this when she came over later that morning.

Galina said I hadn't given her the $100 euro note.  Okay, so I lost it?  I'm usually really good about keeping my money close.  So most likely I did just "drop" it on the floor?  Who knows, but I let it die because I didn't want to believe that Galina had "scammed" me for the money.  I still don't believe she did.  But I can't be sure of it.

Bad memories....

So that's my brief history of doing business with Jack. 

Jon
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« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2005, 11:01:03 AM »
You should drink less:P

Пить надо меньше, меньше надо пить!

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« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2005, 11:02:58 AM »
Dan,

I still have the emails from Jack.  The price kept changing until I thought we had agreed on one.  But when I arrived the price was bumped up again.

But as you can see the price kept rising until my arrival and then it was $80.00.  I had already purchased my ticket on the belief the cost was going to be less...

Jon

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Galina has tried to call you, could not get thru, she had a flat she could reserve but I told her not to as she could not reach you. $65 was good until Eurovision came to Kiev. Now you will pay $75 I am afraid.
 
We will get you a flat when you arrive.
 
my number is.
 
 
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Jon, it will be no problem.

I'll be there on the 12th if you want to meet for drinks.

All our flats as I think you know are in the very center of the center, on
or near Khershatyk.

One bedrooms are going for $70 a night now due to this Eurovision traffic.

Jack


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Jack,
 
I wasn't planning on making a trip for marriage, but just a vacation to Holland and see some old friends.  My buddy John now has to work and we couldn't get a room in Prague so I decided to visit Ukraine since I don't need a visa (EU Citizens don''t need a visa...haha).  Here is my flight information.  You quoted me $65 a day, is that still a good price?   What's your phone number?
 
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« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2005, 11:07:23 AM »
Quote from: corncrowe
I think an agencies credibility is important.  Some agencies have long histories on the internet and not always good.  There is no Better Business Bureau (BBB) for marriage agencies, so what can you do? 
Investigate an agency and find out if there are any complaints from people who have done business with them in the past.  Check and re-check.  There are so many types of fraudulent agencies out there that it's hard to distinguish a good one from a bad one.

I don't wish speak over a specific agency but more in general...

In each business, you have ALWAYS people who are not happy and who make a rant ... More the business is big or old, more you are able to find so rant on the internet...

It is why first hand and fresh info are better that old rant... and if a agency have make some mistake in the past, i find more interesting to know how they have correct these problem... nobody is perfect... the same is true for agency...

 

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« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2005, 11:09:12 AM »
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I think an agencies credibility is important.  Some agencies have long histories on the internet and not always good.  There is no Better Business Bureau (BBB) for marriage agencies, so what can you do? 
Investigate an agency and find out if there are any complaints from people who have done business with them in the past.  Check and re-check.  There are so many types of fraudulent agencies out there that it's hard to distinguish a good one from a bad one.
I don't wish speak over a specific agency but more in general...

In each business, you have ALWAYS people who are not happy and who make a rant ... More the business is big or old, more you are able to find so rant on the internet...

It is why first hand and fresh info are better that old rant... and if a agency have make some mistake in the past, i find more interesting to know how they have correct these problem... nobody is perfect... the same is true for agency...

 
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Bruno,

It goes to show a pattern.  Old or new complaints are intended to show people how a business behaves and whether or not you should use their services.  Sorry, but this is a valid concept. 

Jon

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« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2005, 11:14:18 AM »
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Jon, how about some REAL post from real clients, not the make believe clients you are posting, those who do not leave real names or e-mail addresses.
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Jon, the things you have posted are from the Chernvosty travel board where anyone can post anything about anyone, no proof needed.ÂOften when I offend people like you, not to mention competitors, they like to take their best cheap shots at me on forums like this, where you can say whatever you want about a competitor.
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Jon, let me send you some things some guys have said and in which everything can be proved. Real e-mails with real names. Jon, if anyone thinks your post has any credibility, well they just don't know you, but besides that, you have not submitted any proof, again more hearsay and libel from people like yourself and competitors who cannot compete with me.
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Here Jon, get yourself a bag of popcorn, something to drink, sit back and read what can be proven, what real clients who have used my services have to say.
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Hey Jack, Well I am back home now. I just wanted to thank all of you. When I decided to take this trip, I never thought that it would turn out as wonderful as it did. I thank you Jack for not letting me give up on my dream. Not in a million years would I have thought that I could meet so many wonderful ladies as I did onÂyour spring tour. The parties that you put on were just outstanding. Not only were they beautiful but very wonderful ladies in every aspect. I did get to talk to a few of the ladies that have gone to other tour companies socials. And everyone of them prefer your parties. They feel like they are more of a lady at your parties, and not just a show piece. Please send a thank you to Galina, Marina, Pavel and the rest of your staff for me. To tell you all the wonderful things that I have learned would take a lot of time. So if you have any guys thinking about going on one of your tours, let them know that they can e-mail me and I will be hap! py to speak with them. They could call me or I will call them. Makes no difference to me. You should have a couple guys getting a hold of you after you return. Do to the trip I had they are thinking about taking one also. Well I must go for now, When you get a chance send me the pictures for Krivoy, Kherson and Odessa. Well talk to you later.
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The trip was great, you get out of the trip what effort you put into it. If
you want to date 5,6 or 10 women a day you can do that. if, like me, you
prefer to concentrate on one or 2 ladies in each town you can do that too.
Either way you will have a nice time and get to meet and know some great
people. I do not think any man could say that he did not see and date a
beautiful lady from the parties or the agencies. Beautiful women abound in
the Ukraine and Russia. If you prefer to see ladies in mini-skirts then the
Ukraine is the place to be. Russia away from the big cities has a lot of
lovely young ladies. And while they are young they are grown up and mentally
mature. No "Valley Girls" here.
They dress to impress all the time and they take good care of themselves,
not just physically but they have generally good educations and are 'into'
learning and continuing their education.

Yes you are investing a lot of time and money on ! a trip like this. But you
can in one trip fall in love with a terrific lady who will be sweet, kind,
loving and who will make a partner in life and love that you (in my opinion)
can not find anywhere in the United States of America.

Would I go on a trip again with Jack, Galina and First Dream? Yes I would
and will if things do not work out with the ladies I have found. Finding and
dealing with a marriage agency is very easy; but finding an honest agency is
a different thing and that is where First Dream comes into play. They know
the agencies and they know which ones are bad and which are good.

Dale Whiteside
St. Louis Missouri
d-whiteside@sbcglobal.net


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I will first say thanks to Jack and his wonderful staff of "Firstdream". You gave me 2 wonderful weeks in Ukrainia. I landed in Kyiv on 25 May. Jack had arranged for my trip to the first party in Kherson, so I was meet at Borispol and the on 26 May I took the nigthtrain to Kherson. At Kherson I went to the party, and there where many beautiful girls. I meet several girls that I spend time with after the party.ÂOne off this girls are very special to me, and she can be wife material. After Kherson we went to the beautiful city Odessa. I just feel in love with Odessa, what a beautiful city, and the girls...just awsome!! Nice party and I meet several girls here too. I had the time off my life in Odessa. I left Odessa with a smile on myÂmouth, and I know that I will go back to Odessa, maybe will I move here someday. And off course I meet several girls here too. My last city was Kyiv. Here we also had a nice party with many beautiful girls, and I meet several off th! em after the party. Kyiv is a beautiful big city, with a lot off opportunities. It is also a very safe city, indeed I felt safe wherever I was in Ukrainia, I think that Ùkrainia is a safe country in all ways. Yes I highly recommend "First dream.com". They have nice parties and that makes it easier to get in touch with the girls you like. You don't have to fight against 50 other guys. Jack and Galina where always there to help me if I had any questions at all. I rented a mobilphone and I could call them whenever I wanted, even in the nights. I also liked the other guys on the trip. Very sincere and nice men. I am still in touch withÂ3Âoff the guys, I regard them as my friends.ÂOk Jack can be a pain in the ass sometimes cause he pushed me to meet as many girls as possible, but he do this because he cares and because he wanted us to meet as many girls as possible. He know this game and told me that only hard work would give good results. He also helped me a LOT in the mo! nths before I left for Ukr. He helped me with finding out who was scammers and who was not. How I should present myself and so on. This has been a learning process for me, and Jack was my master. On more time thanks to Jack, Galina and the other staff off "First dream.com". If anyone would like to write too me and ask questions so feel free to do that too my email: stor_oksen@yahoo.com
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I had the best time of my life. Going to the Ukraine on the Firstdream spring tour was the best
decision I made. I went on a 5 city tour for 3 weeks and it was the time of my life. At the Firstdream
parties that I had attended I could not believe how beautiful all the women were. I was able to meet 40
to 60 women at every party. You can use agencies but your time is limited, and that is where Jack's
parties really helped out. These women enjoy going to these parties as well all you have to do is asked
them. Other tour company's do not treat them so kindly. All the men on the tour with me got along very
well and friendships have begun that will last a lifetime. I am 39 years old and I will never go back to dating
American women. I have Firstdream(Jack) for opening a new world for me and I will always be thankful. Jack
is going to tell you what he thinks period. He is not going to tell you what you want to hear sometimes but
you need to listen to him because he has many years experience dealing with FSU women. If anyone wants
to write me they may feel welcome.
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Sean
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I had the pleasure of securing the services of FirstDream in March of
2001. I found both Jack and his staff to be courteous, prompt and wonderfully
professional. They went above and beyond the call of duty to ensure I had
a safe, yet exciting time in Ukraine. Whether you're traveling to the FSU
for the first time or are a returning visitor, Jack and his staff at FirstDream
can and will meet all of your needs.
David-Nashville eenawes@hotmail.com

To Whom it Concern, I met Jack through a telephone call. One of those calls that you were involved in, but didn't know really why, it was taking place. These things take place in life from time, to time. In the end they end up changing your life. Jack impressed me from the start. I'm usually a little skeptic, we that are older find ourselves this way at times. But Jack came on straight with me, and we've had a good go of it since. He cares about what he's doing, you will sense this right away, as I did. He has character. He may huff, and puff, at times, but he wants the best for you, and the ladies he introduces you too. You must realize that's he's under allot of pressure, to deliver quality, and quantity, in a smooth, yet relaxed environment. This he did for me, and the others involved. The women I met through Jack Bragg, plus the gentlemen involved in the tour, will be with me all my life. Jack promised me this before I left the states to go abroad. Their isn't a moment, that goes by everyday, and the E-mails, that I receive from the others. We would drop everything, to go back, and be a group again. Thanks Jack Bragg, I look forward to your company again. Sincerely Warren-Portland budloman@hotmail.com


[size=-1]I would first like to state that Jack Bragg (i.e. FirstDream.com) has been very helpful and gone beyond the "Call of Duty". Jack took a personal interest in my success and did everything he could to insure that I would have success with my search for a foreign wife and we were successful. In my opinion, Jack is a responsible, honest, and ethical businessman who knows just how to go about finding a wife in the Former Soviet Union. I do not hesitate to recommend him to any of my friends who are seriously looking for a sincere lady to share their life with. *
Jim Beckett - Lexington, KY. JLBeckett55@hotmail.com



I highly recommend the services of Jack, Galina, Rostick, and all the entire staff with FirstDream. They are highly knowledgeable, very affordable, and extremely reliable. I knew that when I arrived at the airport in Kiev, Rostcik would be waiting for me to take me to a clean, centrally located apartment. Rostick is friendly and always willing to help.
If you are planning a trip to Ukraine, it is in your best interest to use FirstDream.
Paul- USA pt42060@hotmail.com


[font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][size=-1]My thanks go out to Jack who was instrumental in me finding my wonderful wife Nadia. I found Jack to be very knowledgeable and offered excellent advice.
Howard lordrandom@erols.com[/size][/font]




Dear Jack,
Thank you for the invaluable guidance and assistance that you provided in arranging my trip to Ukraine last March. I had the time of my life, and it never would have been possible without you. Despite the fact that my decision to embark upon this adventure was a spur-of-the-moment, last minute decision, your knowledge and expertise allowed me to pull it off as though it had been planned for months. The flat that you arranged for me was great, the people that you put me in touch with were superb, your recommendations on where to go and where not to go were right on, and knowledge of the how things work in this very different country were a lifesaver. I also appreciate the fact that you actually telephoned me from the states while I was in Ukraine to see how everything was going. Although I did not meet the lady of dreams, I did enjoy the company of many beautiful women during my 10-day stay. They were everything that you said they would be, and I am anxiously looking forward to more of your practical advice in planning my next trip. Very truly yours, Rick- Maine rhanson1@maine.rr.com


[font="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][size=-1]I have not met Mr.. Bragg personally, however I wish someday I can meet him and shake his hands as I thank him for his valuable help. For a ridiculously inexpensive cost I have received a
personalized, professional service which, in my opinion, could easily be worth ten times as much as I have paid. Thanks to Mr. Bragg's assistance, I got exactly what I have asked for. I would
recommend Mr. Bragg for all those first timers like me who are seriously considering a Russian wife, he will guide you through the process and will check on your progress periodically, he knows the business and knows it well. For anyone who is considering using Mr. Bragg's services and would like to hear from my experience, I can be contacted at my email address mentecuerpo@yahoo.com, I will be very happy to share the results that I have obtained from his services. Sufficient for me to say at this time that I am fully satisfied and that I can safely refer any of my personal friends to him. Sincerely, Roberto NYC[/size]
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In my quest for my woman of dreams , it was a matter of chance that I bumped into this site "www.firstdream.com" and my faith and confidence grew quite spontaneously.
Whatever help , advices and services I have received I am happy and grateful
for it. In this kind of search across the internet in today's world , there are so many uncertainties involved , the other side of the valley always appears green , it becomes necessary to be guided .
I had my advertisement published in the Newspaper in Ukraine and also my Adv
put up in one of the sites . Through my brief experience I found it was not very difficult to meet a charming lady , but to meet a genuine person before seeing her in person requires lot of effort.
I have received several official and personal advices from Jack , the
Director of this company. In one case this certainly saved me from a Scam , which in addition to money and effort would have created a serious mental agony. I am yet to find my woman . I feel I am in the right boat and feel this is a very sincere , honest and knowledgeable organization.
I am also drawn to the result that in matrimonial issues , we need a touch of family like warmth . I could feel it here particularly from the encouraging letters from Galina , one of the
people of this company. Vivek - Finland vivek.pal@nokia.com





[font="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]FirstDream, Unbelievable! That's all I can say.
I want to comment on my recent trip to the Ukraine during your fall 2004 group tour and about your services. WOW! For any of your prospective clients that are contemplating attending any of the larger socials tours, or basic services within the eastern European Countries, FirstDream's effectiveness and effeciency towards all of it's wonderful services, logisitics, education and support is more than I can put into a single Email. This trip, tour and experience was not what I expected. It was beyond anything I had imagined and a part of my life that I will never forget. From the moment that I got off of the plane, there was someone there with me and there to assist me in every and anyway. Their was as much or as little support I needed only a phone call away, 24x7. Furthermore, there is no way to describe to any American man what it is like to attend an organized Party where you are one of 12 or 13 men, and there are 75 absolutley stunning beautiful women, many of which you invited, there wanting to meet you! So, when I say that this experience was not what I had expected, it truly was far beyond a description that I could put into words. If any future clients have any questions or concerns, please write me and I will call you if you want to hear this from me in person. The only problem is that most men are going to want a 2 minute description of what to expect, and that is impossible because there are too many great memories to share in that time frame so expect to talk to me for a while.

Sincerely,
Keith
KeithClowe@aol.com


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[font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]I was a participant in the FirstDream tour during the Fall of 2004. I went to Dnepropetrovsk and Kherson and participated in the tour and parties held there. First I would like to say that I did meet a special lady in Dnepropetrovsk that I am quite serious about and whom I think I may someday marry. So I will say that my trip was very successful. I would like to say that Jack's party and the tour overall was very well organized and managed. My girlfriend also felt that FirstDream's party was the most organized and overall best party that she participated in. So I think that from both points of view, the men and the ladies, the parties were comfortable and very enjoyable. I would like to also say that at all the parties there was a wide variety of women representing many walks of life from Ukraine. And I think that is a important quality. While there were many nice and beautiful young ladies, there were also attractive more mature women for the older gentlemen with our tour. I am 32 years old and I felt that the mix of women was very good. Also, Jack was very good about making arrangements to get me where I wanted to be. After the Kherson party, I felt that I wanted to return to Dnepropetrovsk to meet my special lady, and Jack and his people had no problem making this happen and quickly. They also made arrangements to pick me up and return me to the Kiev airport when I arrived and departed. So Firstdream is a very good organization to use if you want to go to Ukraine on your own and to have them make living and travel arrangements. I can be reached at DanFPilot@AOL.Com if you have any questions that I may be able to answer.[/font]

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Letter of reference from Mike T. RE: Fall Ukraine 2003 Tour and Spring 2004 Tour
Consider yourself fortunate to be reading this letter. I say this because it means you have discovered FirstDream and Jack Bragg, and this means you now have the best opportunity available to realize your dream of meeting and marrying a truly special lady.
I recently completed my first trip to the Ukraine. Well, "completed" is a relative term; I'm now back home in the U.S., but my heart and mind are still half a world away. 27 days will do that to a man. My first experience was nothing short of remarkable, and even my most optimistic expectations were greatly exceeded. "Vacation of a Lifetime" would be a gross understatement. My trip was an amazing experience and a great success; I met so many wonderful and lovely ladies that now I'm faced with the hardest part of the process - having to make a choice. Without question, I owe all my success entirely to Jack.
If you're as serious about finding love with a Ukrainian lady then I implore you to take advantage of the services available to you from Jack Bragg and First Dream. I really believe you will be making a huge mistake by not doing so. I'm exceedingly confident when I tell you I think it will be impossible for you to find a better provider of the sound advice and personal assistance you will require before, during and even after your visit.
Jack is an amazing man - it quickly became apparent to me that he truly wants his clients to succeed, just as he did. Jack is a man who really, honestly, cares about his clients and their success. He's certainly not getting paid enough for all the time he devotes to this. He has a sincere desire to help you because he enjoys doing it. He is living the life you and I have been dreaming about, and he wants it for you as well. Not only is Jack a competent and dedicated professional, but I now consider him a true friend as well.
Maybe more than most I really benefited from Jack's pre-trip advice and counseling. At any time of day he happily answered my many questions, was always ready to provide much needed advice, and quickly executed my requests, and he spent countless hours doing it. And he will never bullsh1t you. Had I not listened to him, I never would have met with the extraordinary women I did. I'm talking about 'real' women - intelligent, educated, interesting, beautiful, warm, kind, fun, with stunning grace and charm, and hearts of pure gold. And perhaps best of all, sincerely interested in falling in love with a good man.
Jack and his team in Ukraine have more than five years experience seeing to the needs of guys like us. You will benefit directly from this. They've already muddled through all the crap, which means you won't be dealing with it. Whatever you need, wherever you are, Jack has experienced people who are willing, ready and able to assist you. When you need something done it gets done, period. With Jack you will never have to worry about in-country travel arrangements, accommodations, or making last minute changes, and you certainly will never have trouble getting access to truly sincere and desirable women. When or if a problem should arise Jack and his team act quickly to solve it. Thanks to Jack, the biggest problem I faced on my trip was when my cell phone wouldn't charge, and after I told him about it I had a new one within the hour.
As part of my trip I attended six parties in nine days. I met over 180 sincere, attractive and marriage-minded ladies, and I spent time with many of these ladies on the days following the parties. You need to understand that Jack's parties are far different from the 'industry norm'. Jack works only with reputable agencies, many of which you don't have access to because they're not on the 'net, and he is very selective about the ladies he will invite. Because of this you will meet only with genuine, sincere and attractive ladies.
You can elect to travel on some other group's tour and attend their "socials" if you want. You can fall for their marketing propaganda. And if you do you're sure to meet many women, but you better understand beforehand that most are "scammers" at worst or 'professional daters' at best, and therefore they're not sincerely interested in marrying you, or any foreign man. The term "social" has an awful reputation among most of the ladies I spoke with, and those that had will never again attend such "cattle-markets" . But at Jack's parties ladies are treated as they should be, with respect and dignity, and each lady I discussed this with told me they truly enjoyed the settings and party format very much and appreciated the taste in which they were held.
Everything Jack told me, every piece of advice he shared, was 100% accurate. Guys, he knows what he's doing, so just listen to him, do what he says, and soon, like me, you'll be having to make a choice from among the many amazing ladies that want to spend their life with you.
Mike
miket@rraz.net
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To anyone considering group tours:
I had previously been on a social with one of the larger tour agencies. The experience taught me a lot, however not all of it good. Once I got away from the professional social girls I realized that these Russian women were truly wonderful and I would not be happy until I found such a good woman for myself. I made a trip to Ukraine by myself the next year where I met a wonderful lady but things just did not turn out for us.
As I started making plans for a return trip this year I had heard many good things said about the agency FirstDream. I contacted Mr. Bragg, told him of my experience and what I was looking for. Mr. Bragg indicated if I kept going about the process the same way I was I might be 100 years old before I met my Russian bride. I never thought I could see more than one lady on a trip, just not my nature, but Mr. Bragg showed me, convinced me, that it could be done with dignity.
I just returned from the Odessa-Kiev Fall Group Tour. I met a lot of ladies. I met many ladies at pre-arranged meetings and I met a lot of ladies at the socials, I mean parties. Several of the ladies at the parties were ladies that I had interest in and had invited these ladies there so I could met them. These parties were first class. Music, dancing, great food and plenty to drink, great interpreters. There were some fun games that were played and everyone seem to have a good time.
The best thing about this trip was at the third of fourth parties I met my future bride to be. I will forever be grateful and thankful for the care and attention that I received from Jack and the entire FirstDream staff. They have changed my life forever.
D.S.-Idaho
dksmith@pmt.org

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Just went on the Spring 2004 Firstdream group tour. This was my fourth trip to Ukraine and the first time I ever went as part of a group. On my previous three trips to Ukraine I went solo and I thought I had meet many fine Ukraine ladies. On my first weekend of the FirstGroup tour I had met more fine, beautiful and sincere ladies than I had met in total on my previously three trips. On the spring trip I went to every party in each city. I met close to 500 ladies from the parties and another 15 ladies I had been writing too at private meetings. I stayed in Ukraine an extra two weeks after the tour ended following up with more meetings from ladies I met on the tour.
While discussing our parties with some of the ladies I met, several made comments about other socials by other agencies. They all made comments about how they liked the way our tour group was different from the others. The group was smaller and more intimate and the party was well organized. One lady told me one social she attended basically consisted of the men picking ladies from the agency and the men would sit together while the ladies danced. With the Firstdream tour, we had tables where each man was able to make a visit of about 20 minutes before moving on to the next table. This method gave each man and all the ladies the chance to meet and speak with each other. We each had our own interpreter who accompanied us to each table of ladies. If any man had an interest in any of the ladies at the table, he would indicate this interest to his interpreter and the interpreter would follow up and get contact information from the ladies. This allowed the men to contact the ladies for subsequent meeting or dates and to find if there was mutual interest and possible compatibility. This method give you face to face, person to person contact with the ladies and is far more productive than a party with men sitting together on one side and the ladies dancing by themselves.
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I have occasions had questions about Russian women and the procedure to find a good woman
and the person I turned to for an answer has been Jack. He gives me quick answers and his
opinion and without charge or salesmanship. I think that Jack has a great deal of knowledge of
the subject and I find him to be highly ethical and an honest man who I think is genuinely
concerned on what fate could meet the new or ignorant in the FSU.
Best regards, Tim tim360z@aol.com

Jack Bragg and FirstDream guided me through my first trip to Ukraine on 7/1/01. I had many questions and concerns about making a venture such as this and was quite nervous about the trip. Jack was very attentive to all of my needs and was always available to give his guidance, even after hours. He was very honest and made sure that I was treated honestly while in Ukraine. FirstDream prepared all the arrangements for my trip and during my stay I was given excellent treatment. I felt very safe and my accommodations were very reasonable. Before I left Jack was behind the scenes making sure everything was in order. Because of this I had no problems once in Ukraine. Lastly, Jack helped me to understand Ukrainian women and how a man should proceed with experiencing such a beautiful place. He was a mentor to me and showed me a path to success with the women. As this is a very serious ordeal, Jack felt it imperative that we cover such issues so that I was prepared to do what was necessary to ensure my success. Overall, I can say nothing but good things about Jack and FirstDream. I had a wonderful experience and I trust in Jack to plan my next trip to Ukraine. Sincerely, Brian (Washington DC) eyesocket@yahoo.com

Gentlemen:
I have been on a tour to Odessa Ukraine with a large tour group company, It was an awesome time, but let me tell you that the personal attention you receive from Jack at FirstDream is a much better program.....It is very cost effective and you receive many personal insights lacking from the other groups.....I plan to go to Kiev in Oct 2001... and have booked with FirstDream and Jacks team there.....You are in for the trip of a lifetime when you meet these awesome women from the former FSU... They are more than you can imagine...If you have any questions please feel welcome to write and ask any questions.
Dennis-Idaho dksmith@pmt.org



FirstDream has offered sincere, excellent advice and help. It is so wonderful to have someone you can trust to help you with all aspects of traveling, accommodations and support throughout the former Soviet Union. Don-USA di3256@home.com



[font="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][size=-1]Jack, I value your advice very much. I know that you have your clients best interest in mind. You are open and straight forward and I will always consider FirstDream and your support on any travels to Russia or Ukraine. Keith-St. Louis castway109@hotmail.com

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To Whom it May Benefit,
The FirstDream Group Tour was a first for me. I read a lot about the various tour groups, tried to investigate and research what I could to improve my chances of success. I was lucky to discover the biggest secret in the Russian bride industry, FirstDream. No matter whom I chose to go with, the bigger, more known agencies or FirstDream, you still have to put a lot of trust in someone. I did this with FirstDream, and owner Jack Bragg. My experience was one I will never forget.

The socials were filled with women who were sincere. Nice looking, well dressed, educated, Ukrainian/Russian women, looking for the right man. Not once did I find a gold digger, a scam artist, or a woman just their for a good time.

The socials were monitored so as not to have more women than could be
meet by the men attending. Activities were created to help everyone get to know each other. Plenty of good food and drinks were available. The interpreters were top quality, nicely dressed, professional, and fun to be around. The music was great, and the staff they have turned out to be my friends. The sole purpose for these Group Tours by FirstDream is to help you to find a lifetime mate. I may have found this while
there, along with several of my newly met friends.
It is easy to tell that Jack loves these people and country, with his wife being from there. FirstDream wants the best for these women, and also the best for you. Be a gentleman when you go there. Put your trust in FirstDream. They will meet you from the time of arrival and stay with you as much as you want up till the time they deliver you at the airport.
I promise you this; be prepared to meet more quality women, more beautiful women, be prepared to be treated with more respect, than you will ever find in America.
Sincerely
Warren C.
budloman@hotmail.com
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[font="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]To whom it may concern.
I have known Jack Bragg for over 3 years now and I must say that I give my highest recommendations to him without hesitation. I have been to Ukraine now 3 times. The first time I went with a large tour company where they had several hundred women at their socials. The reality of these large socials is that it is a scam!!! The majority of these women were not sincere at all. In fact I personally witnessed them playing several different guys to buy them expensive dinners and gifts. I WOULD NEVER GO TO A BIG SOCIAL EVER AGAIN. IT WAS A BIG WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY!
The next time I went to Ukraine, I went with a friend and had better results.
This last time however, I used the services of Jack Bragg and his FIRST DREAM agency to plan my trip. It was the most wonderful experience I have ever had in Ukraine. Everything was very well organized. I felt very safe. Jack and his staff were always only a phone call away. Being in a strange country where you do not speak the language can be very frightening and intimidating but with Jack's help, it was very easy and comforting.
First of all I want to say that I am not receiving any compensation at all for my testimonial. I am speaking from my heart and every word I speak is sincere. In fact, I welcome anyone who is thinking about finding a nice Russian/Ukranian bride to contact me directly at my e-mail address. If you are sincere, I will gladly speak with you on the phone also. I have never seen any company EVER give the quality of service and support that I received from Jack. I called him many times, and every time, he took sincere interest in my needs. Jack has an incredible amount of knowledge and experience and in my opinion, his help is worth every penny.
Jack and First Dream worked hard to give each of us men several great parties in which we had the opportunity to meet several nice ladies. Unlike the SOCIALS of the other companies where they just crowd several hundred NOT sincere ladies into a room, Jack's parties were more intimate and respectful of everyone's feelings; both men and women. In fact many of the women I spoke to told me that they liked Jack's parties much better than any social they had been to. They said that there was no comparison. Jack's parties were by far the best they've ever attended.
I am a very busy man but I believe that finding a wife is a very important step and a very difficult process to find the right one so I feel it is important to try and help others to have the best possible chance to find the woman of their dreams. This is why I highly recommend that you listen to Jack and the advice he gives you. He will help you to avoid the many scammer women out there that other agencies do not bother to screen. Jack Bragg and First Dream are a scammers worst nightmare.
As a company, First Dream is ethical, honest and stands by every client to help ensure success. As a person, Jack is kind, caring and sincere. No matter what time I called him, I was always welcomed with a cheerful and sincere interest to help me.
Jack's services cost far less than the tours of other companies and there is no comparison to the quality of the service and support he offers.
Dominic prsnlpwr@mnsi.net

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To Whom it may concern,
Having previously attended *** socials and one of Jack Bragg's parties, I have some thoughts on the differences and which I personally liked better.
I did not like the *** socials very much. I thought they were somewhat demeaning to the women and it was very hard to just approach a table of 6 women and sit down and talk...especially when you also had to corale an interpreter to do so. The socials are really for extroverted, outgoing guys (I am an apparent extrovert who is actually very shy inside) who are in their late 20s to mid 30s. If you are a younger, good looking guy with a little panache, you will clean house at a social as the majority of girls there are in their early 20s and many are just looking for a good time, some champagne, and maybe a night or two on the town. If you are on the same page, you will have a helluva lot of fun.
On the other hand, if you are older, say 40s and up, and are looking for a serious wife, the socials will be challenging. It will be hard to not want to talk to the 19 year olds since they are so beautful, seductive, intoxicating and sexy and believe me, many are smart as hell and know how to spin you like a top. And many of the older women there...say early 30s to late 30s... what few of them there are, are not nearly as sexy and you even spot a few soon-to-be babushkas. I felt bad for these women especially because hardly any guy even bothered to say hello to them.
Jack's party is different and for me was more appealing. Each man can personnaly invite 3 to 4 girls and there are a total of 48 to 60 women and maybe 12 to 15 men. The girls sit at tables, 4 to a table, with each guy having his own interpreter.. you do not have to scour for one. Protocol is to rotate from table to table depending on who catches your eye and as there is one table per guy, all of the girls get to talk to several of the men, which is good for them. I sat down at the first table that was open and this is where I met Anita, who spoke English and who I hit it off with strongly and immediately (to my surprise). I rotated to several other tables and met many other nice ladies.
I would say that Jack's party fits my personality pretty well and I came to like Jack. He came through for me and he really has some great people working for him. I can not say enough good things about his managers Gala and Rostick and the interpeter I had named Pavil. I liked all of them immensely and I prefer the more personal touch that Jack and his people offer as compared to *** and the sour guide I had on there trip. I feel I could call or write Jack at any time and he could help me with whatever in Ukraine. I did not feel that way about the *** folk though I did make friends with some interpreters.
James
jaswartz@mail.awb.us

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I recently returned from the First Dream Spring 2004 Tour of Ukraine and I would like to give you my reflections on this amazing trip.
The two and a half weeks I spent in six cities of Ukraine afforded me the opportunity meet literally hundreds of BEAUTIFUL, INTELLIGENT ladies. Each of these ladies sincerely wanted to meet and spend time with me. Most of these women could have been photo models.
There are more beautiful ladies in attendance at these parties than you can possible meet at one time. However, many of the ladies I was NOT able to meet during a party made it a point to find me and introduce themselves to me after that party had concluded.
The quality of the women you meet at these tour parties is beyond anything you can imagine in the United States. These women are cultured, stylish, and unselfish and appreciate men for who they are, instead of their financial standing. You will meet more incredible women than you can possibly imagine on a trip.
The parties were very nice affairs, and a little different in every city. The ladies were treated with dignity, and after meeting them at tables in small groups of four or five, there was dancing and time to arrange dates with those ladies of greatest interest to me.
The tour was comprised of a small group of men. There were eleven of us on the tour, and our backgrounds, ages and interests varied greatly. I am in my mid thirties, and the oldest guy on the tour was in his early 50s. These guys were all good guys and many became friends.
Jack, you and your team do a great job of handling all of the travel details and assisting with any concerns we had! Lost luggage, arranging meetings with ladies in other Ukrainian cities, and other unique concerns any of the guys had, were handling swiftly and expertly.
I heartily endorse and recommend your First Dream tours to any man sincerely seeking to meet a beautiful, intelligent woman from Ukraine! I am a very busy professional but taking the time to get on that airplane and go to Ukraine on one of your trips is one of the best decisions I ever made!
If anyone is potentially considering one of your trips and has questions or concerns, I would be happy to answer them by email.
Very Best Regards,
Matthew B.
matthew_b2004@yahoo.com
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Dear Jack, Galina, Rostick and the FirstDream Team,

I know this is long overdue, but I would like to take this opportunity to
express my gratitude for making my first trip to Ukraine during your fall 2004 group tour such a fun and
memorable experience. Without your assistance, it certainly would have been
a lot more challenging and less enjoyable.


All the pre-trip consulting that Jack provided for me was invaluable and
helped make my trip even more productive. During my stay in Ukraine, I had
the opportunity to visit three cities: Kiev, Odessa, and Kharkov. I am a
"guidebook" type of traveler, so the orientation that your staff gave me at
each of the destinations was most helpful. At each destination, I received
personal service and your local representatives were always at my disposal,
just a phone call away.


I was very pleased with my apartments in Kiev and Odessa and my hotel room
at the Mir Hotel in Kharkov. They were certainly better than what I had
expected. The logistical support and assistance that your team provided were fast,
reliable, and got me out of trouble during my times of need. The best
examples of these include:


-In Kiev, when I was being scammed by a pair of out-of-town scammer ladies,
Galina provided immediate assistance to help me execute my plan to resolve
my dilemma in a most professional manner


-In Kharkov, when I ran into financial trouble (due to the aforementioned
scammers ladies I met in Kiev) Rostick assisted me in getting additional
funds to help me make it through the end of my trip


I also learned that the services that your team provides is not only for
guys coming to Ukraine to find a bride, but also anyone wishing to have a
vacation or wish to do business in Ukraine. I would highly recommend you
and your team to my male and female friends who have thought about visiting
Ukraine for vacation and business associates who want do business in
Ukraine.


I plan to come Ukraine again in 2005 and I will definitely be using the
services from you and your staff again.


Best regards,

Michael

michaelcheung828@hotmail.com
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Dear Jack, I have just returned from my trip to Odessa having met the perfect lady. I owe it all to you and your staff at FirstDream. I would like to thank you for your help with all the arrangements -( Visa, getting picked up at the airport, setting up the apartment rental etc.) and for the introduction to some very nice ladies. I had a million doubts that I would ever find a decent lady through an agency, but you have been the man responsible for the most significant event in my life, meeting Anya. She is the most considerate, and beautiful lady I have ever met. We shared the most romantic times together, and I had the most positive experience with her that I have ever known. She is simply incredible! I think what is really amazing about all of this is that Anya and I are very sure that we are truly, deeply in love with each other. She is as real and honest a woman as I have ever known, probably more so!! I could only have dreamed of meeting a lady like this before, but the American man / Russian woman chemistry really works! No wonder you call the agency "FirstDream"! Thank you for all your advice and wisdom, I would recommend you and your staff to my best friends. I have already mentioned my experience to a couple of buddies who will contact you soon about your next trip. Thanks Again!
Sincerely, Ed - Salt Lake City eddy1home@hotmail.com

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Just when I think a service operates under "business as usual" practices...you go ahead and go beyond expectations! you raise the bar and are to be commended! kudos to you and your site for the way you handle clients! this is precisely how I handled my customer/patron base in a somewhat similar arena...good to see it still in practice.
Mikael T. mercuryrises@hotmail.com

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Hello Jack,
I want to thank you very much for allowing me to be part of your fall 2004 group tour. The trip was excellent the other guys on the trip were real nice, we all keep in touch. And the parties were fabulous, it cannot be expressed any better than that. The entire trip was excellent Jack, I have never had such a wonderful, exciting trip in my life. The tour was very well organized and in my opinion I would not change a thing. So many beautiful women at the parties and you guys were great in helping to arrange the many private meetings I had. I am writing a few ladies now from the trip and if things do not work out you can count on me being part of your tour in 2005.

If any men who are thinking about attending one of your tours would like to write me please give them my e-mail address and I would be more than happy to talk to them on the phone as well.

Jose

JoeHino@aol.com

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To anyone considering a trip to Ukraine or Russia, I began my search for a "Russian bride" by going on a group tour to Moscow with one of the big three tour companies. While it was quite interesting seeing the FSU for the first time, it was not a successful trip.
I returned twice more on my own pursuing ladies that I had met at the "socials" only to end up empty handed and a lot lighter in the wallet.

The big drawing card for this company was the women to men ratio at these "socials". To acheveive this ratio women were recruited from agencies, newspaper ads, and straight off the street. While in retrospect there were a few sincere women interested in developing a relationship, most were there with less honorable intentions. There were prostitutes and scammers galore. Many were there for a free party with hopes of hooking up with a guy for a nice dinner and gifts.

It was difficult to approach many of the ladies that I wanted to meet because they bunched up in groups of five to eight per table. If you needed a translator you had to leave the lady and search for one. There was less than one translator for every two guys and you had to explain your life's story to each one because you never got the same one twice.

The venue was one of the most expensive discos in town. Drinks were outrageous ($4 for bottled water) and once the music started it was impossible to communicate with anybody. So if you had not met anyone in the first hour and a half, you could only sit and watch the girls dance.

In April I decided to give it one more try with FirstDream as they had a good reputation as a small company with a focus on personal attention. I went to Kyiv with few expectations of success.

I was met at the airport (with the big tour company, if you do not fly with them from New York, you are on your own finding the hotel). I was taken to my flat and shown all the amenities that it offered. I was given a telephone number to reach a representative of FirstDream twenty four hours a day. I was taken downtown, shown how to exchange money, where to find restaurants with menus in English, where to purchase phone cards and how to use them in the pay phones, and basically orientated on where to go and how to act. With the big company you were on your own once you checked in.

Living in a flat was a real taste of life in the FSU. I felt very honored to be invited to use someone's home and sample their tastes and motif. In the hotel you live in a noisy, crowded, sterile environment with strict regulations of who and when people can come to your room. Plus there were the constant solicitation of the prostitutes working for the hotel (every night, all night long). Not what I was traveling half way around the world for.

I was taken out by my guide to see the sights around town and visit agencies if I wanted. If I had a date and needed a translator, there was always one available for a very reasonable cost. Everyone associated with FirstDream was first class and very personable. Every need was met with level of attention that I never expected.
The parties that Jack set up were real opportunitiesto meet serious and honest ladies. There were ladies at each party who had seen my picture/profile and were there to meet me. The cafe where the parties were held was comfortable and spacious. Drinks were very reasonable and Jack provided food. Everyone felt very relaxed. The guys were not pressured to circulate and the ladies did not feel like they were at a meat market.

Even when the music started (after two and a half hours of chatting) it was still possible to meet and communicate with ladies. Each man had his own interpreter so there was no need to chase one down each time you needed one. Your interpreter knew after the first few introductions your life's story so that there was no need to waste time repeating it over and over. The interpreter could also help you circulate tactfully without looking like you were just shopping/playing around.

I found (actually she picked me) a woman that far exceeds my wildest dreams with the help of FirstDream and would be happy to answer any questions that anyone might have about my experiences.
Ed-Northern California
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[font="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]Hi Jack,
I just left Kiev this a.m. and had some time to kill at the Munich airport.
I first wanted to compliment you and your excellent staff on the fine job they did and the high quality of service and progamming you provided during the fall 2003 tour of Ukraine. It is rare to have such an opportunity to meet so many stunningly beautiful, sincere ladies in such a short period and though I was fortunate enough to meet several women who I considered "marriage material", I have found Anna whom I will now be directing my full attention. Because I was able to extend my visit by 6 days following the last party, it allowed me to visit with Anna and her family to better find our compatibility. She and her family are just great and now we already discuss options for a long and fruitful life together.
You and your staff did a fantastic job at the parties and in arranging transportation and overnight accomodations making it a trip that reduced the stress and worries of traveling to a foreign country. Although this was my third trip to the FSU, you made this one the most productive I have had. I especially liked the format and was able to make what I consider to be lasting friendships with men that I have much in common with.
Ukrainian women are awesome and it is such a special thing to feel appreciated for small and large romantic gestures toward the women who mostly showed a genuine interest in me when I took the time to get to know them better. It was amazing that I didn't need to stand on my hands and act like a jerk to get their attention as I sometimes find back home with attractive women. Most all the women I met with were fit, caring and clearly had a strong grasp of femininity!
The parties were fun and well organized and though many women went home without a potential spouse, I had the impression that all the ladies enjoyed meeting with the men and found the experience to be dignified and worthwhile.
I wish you continued succes with your group tours, they are like no others available today.
Dan dsmunk@sti.net

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A million thanks
Thank you Jack for the incredible tour of Ukraine during your Spring 2004 group tour. I still can't believe that so many nice ladies all looking for a serious relationship live in one country! Thank you for organizing everything, I would hate to think about going there the first time and trying to get around my myself.
Your interpreters Vika, Galina and Rostick where great, what good people they are, please tell them a million thanks from me!!
I decided to up my requirement for a lady after seeing so many nice ladies, problem was that there are just so many to choose from!
I wish you well and can't thank you enough for the education and introduction to so many fine women.


Yours truly, Michael S.

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[font="Courier New, Courier, mono"]To Whom It May Concern:
I went on the Firstdream Fall 2003 tour with Jack Bragg and I truly had a wonderful time. I met many beautiful ladies who were serious about finding a good husband. No matter where I went in Ukraine (Kiev, Kharkov, Odessa, Kherson or Dnepropetrovsk), Jack's people were there to greet me at the train station or airport and escort me to my hotel or apartment. If I ever needed anything, I would just call their mobile phone number and they would help me out in a quick and efficient manner. By the way, I highly recommend anyone going on these tours to rent a mobile phone in advance...believe me, I could not imagine making such a trip without the mobile phone I rented from Firstdream. My mobile phone kept me in contact with everyone. Most importantly, Jack and his people showed me how to identify and handle scam and potential scam agencies and ladies. Thanks to their help, I was able to minimize my exposure to these scam elements and as a result met many fine and sincere ladies. I would recommend anyone interested in marrying a fine Ukrainian lady to seriously consider going on a tour with Jack and be prepared to learn a lot of valuable information about finding your Ukrainian dream bride. This was my first trip to the former Soviet Union and I could not imagine anyone else who could have made this trip so effecient, entertaining and educational.
Chris
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[font="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"]Hello,
I write this letter to Jack, Galina, Rostick, Nastya, and everyone else who made the spring group tour a wonderful success and helping me to meet the ladies of my dream. I think I am the youngest client, at 22, Jack has ever had on one of his group tours. He told me I would have many young, beautiful ladies to choose from and was he ever right! In fact everything Jack told me was right on. In many cases he knew what was going to happen before it happened! Ladies I thought were real, sincere, Jack quickly pegged as scammers, and he was right (although I was hoping he was wrong). The trip I took with Firstdream was a once in a life time experience. It was both productive and fun. I have spent a lot of time and money in America trying to find the perfect mate, to spend my time with. I have gone on several dates, with all types of people. I find American women to be selfish, immature, and in many cases monetarily driven. Too find an American woman that intrigued me it required me to look at a much higher age bracket then my own and for me to lower my standards, as many single women with the maturity and direction I required for my personal satisfaction were already married or divorced with baggage. I have wasted my time with several online dating services, I have been to speed dating activities, and I have even gone to an American matchmaker. None of these compared to the genuine help and direction provided by Firstdream. Even long after my trip I have been able to call and be assisted with my future visits and the planning of my second trip which will start in a few months.
During my first trip I was able to find easily, the girl of my dreams. Although, I would suggest others to correspond with many people, as marriage is important and should be held with high regards and cautions. It is very easy to find a mate on your first visit, but as Jack would tell you it is not recommended. I agree with Jack and appreciate his honest advice. Organization, preparation and a very open schedule are the three things I would pass on from my trip. All of which Jack tried to impress upon me.
Thank you,
Michael W
mwd90010@hotmail.com
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First Dream,
I just wanted to give my sincere thanks to you for all of the help, and support you have given me over the years. I have never had a reason not to feel comfortable with the advice, and wisdom that has been my pleasure to experience with such a knowledgeable founder as First Dream has.

First Dream, is truly a dream come true for any man, who is considering looking for love, and possibly marriage, from out side the USA especially Russia. Jack, was very helpful to me with his advice and support, when I was planning my trip to the Ukraine. First Dreams owner Jack, is an expert and Pro at knowing what to do and how to find that special lady, that you always dreamed about. First Dreams knows how to do it all, and will guide you in making the best choices and to guard against making bad ones.

Several years ago I got to know Jack, when my interest in Russian women was coming to life. He has always been there ready to guide me, give me advice and support. Jack has developed First Dream into a first class Love Connection for the American man who is looking love and support, something that's very hard to find in the good ole USA. With First dream you will find that you can't get a better deal any where, and you will have that personal service as if you are the only one, of course there are many, but you wont notice it.

I highly recommend First Dream, to any American man who is thinking about exploring for love outside the USA.

Sincerely Yours,
J.C. Atlanta, Ga.
jimdandy@ix.netcom.com




Jack,

When I think of the whole process, I am really glad I knew someone like you. I am sure you have heard this from a lot of people, but I also want to say thank you very much. From day one, and I guess we have worked with each other for a few years, you have been very upfront and honest with your suggestions, recommendations and opinions. From how to meet many ladies, what to say, arranging meetings and even helping with the K-1 visa process, you have been a tremendous asset. Thanks again for everything.
Dan. marshall_78@hotmail.com





[font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]During my 8 day stay in Dnipro' last year and my later trip to Lugansk my dealings with you have been on the up and up, and anyone that picks people like you have, has my vote. In addition I have followed the Planet-Love forum off and on for the last year....and agree with the advice you give. My parents came to the USA from Ukraine, I have visited Ukraine 4 times, and speak fluent Ukrainian. So I know the country and the people, but YOU are the Master on meeting and successfully marrying Ukrainian or Russian women.... and seems like a man that loves his
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« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2005, 11:19:58 AM »
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Dan,

I still have the emails from Jack.  The price kept changing until I thought we had agreed on one.  But when I arrived the price was bumped up again.

But as you can see the price kept rising until my arrival and then it was $80.00.  I had already purchased my ticket on the belief the cost was going to be less...

Jon

Jon, ask to other people... the ukrainian gouverment have try to obligate people for not rise price due to Eurovision but it was not working... price have grow in all ukraine...

And Eurovision is not the only reason... the value of $$$ was dropping in the begin May... The gouverment have artificialy blocked the change at a more high level that the real value... result, the price in $$$ for hotel and appartment have spring up...

If you wish a stable price, don't ask it in $$$ but in the local money... and you will see that price change everyday, in function of the change... during my stay in Ukraine, in May, in 3 week, the change for one euro have vary from 5.50 to 6.50... it is 18% ...

When you visit other country, you pay the day price... the only method to spare these problem is pay before...

For the problem with money who have dissappear, Elen have the right reply... to much drink, sleepy... perfect for attract a pickpocket...

 

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« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2005, 11:25:16 AM »
Happy clients, sad clients...that is life. This is going nowhere.

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« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2005, 11:29:14 AM »
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Bruno,

It goes to show a pattern. Old or new complaints are intended to show people how a business behaves and whether or not you should use their services. Sorry, but this is a valid concept.Â

Jon


Jon, the problem with your post is that you first have to assume veracity of OTHER'S comments. I can tell you from my own first-hand experience, that several of the comments you copied from other boards are just plainly false.

Let's take the most obvious - that Jack was banned from RWG and then went over to Planet-love. Facts are that P-L was active much earlier than RWG and Jack was an active contributor to it, joining not long after I arrived there. IIRC, that was in 1998 or 1999.

I saw posts from BarryM for several years (and he is a member here, as well) - and while I saw the MANY, MANY accusations made that those were actually from Jack, I also know that the style of writing was so radically-different from Jack's that I am 110% convinced that BarryM and Jack are two different persons. No question about it.

As for your direct experience with Jack and apartments, I happen to have a fair amount of direct first-hand experience with apartments in Kyiv myself. In fact, one time I was literally rushing to the US Embassy with Olya in-hand just a step or two ahead of the militsia who had been summoned by a corrupt apartment owner and they were threatening me with "forcible FSB repatriation" - among many other things. During an extremely tense period, in which ANYTHING could have happened, Jack was calling my mobile phone in Ukraine constantly - just to check in on us. He had no business motivation to do that - there has never been a nickel exchanged between us - he merely was concerned and prepared to get whatever US authorities involved as needed.

I have met Galina - a few times. I understand your concern, but find it highly-unlikely that Galina would risk her reputation over 100 Euros.

Finally, as I have mentioned in the past, Jack has asked me for numerous recommendations of travel-related service providers in Ukraine - because I have traveled all across the country and have used numerous assistance, both bad and good. I have not hesitated to recommend some of the people with whom I have worked in the past - and at least a few of them have become a rather integral part of Jack's 'network.' In that respect, I feel some sense of Jack's credibility, because I *know* he is working with credible and high-integrity people in Ukraine.

So . . .  you are correct that it is a good idea to 'check out' anyone with whom you intend to transact business. Be sure to get a FULL dossier and make a BALANCED decision.

- Dan

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« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2006, 11:53:57 PM »
Well this was a big waste of web-space.

Rule number one. When you attempt to expose or smear someone..... have some ammo.

when your complaint is boiled down all you have is 10 or 15 dollar increase in flat rental, (if it was such a rip off, why not go some where else after the first night?)
And then we have the situation where you get drunk off your ass and wake up with less money.
Ohh Now you're really making your case. ::)

Corncrowe.... Dude I want you to breath in deep and think.... "wide open spaces".

 

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