It appears you have not registered with our community. To register please click here ...

!!

Welcome to Russian Women Discussion - the most informative site for all things related to serious long-term relationships and marriage to a partner from the Former Soviet Union countries!

Please register (it's free!) to gain full access to the many features and benefits of the site. Welcome!

+-

Author Topic: Public Apology ... Two of them Actually ...  (Read 3821 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Admin

  • Administrator
  • *
  • Posts: 8211
  • Country: us
  • Gender: Male
  • Spouse's Country: No Selection
  • Status: No Selection
  • Trips: > 10
Public Apology ... Two of them Actually ...
« on: August 12, 2007, 01:44:49 PM »
Principles are a funny thing. They seem simple enough when you first commit them to writing, and then, it comes time to live them.

I have recently made the mistake of violating one of my principles. Those of you who have been around RWD for a while know that I have publicly stated that I do not wish to humiliate anyone - especially in public. I have even stated that as the reason why I do not, except on rare occasion, announce bans.

A few of you may know that I spent some time recently posting comments, and links, at the Tyra Banks blog. If you like, you can see it here -- http://telepicturesblog.warnerbros.com/tyrashow/2007/08/a_revealing_look_at_the_mail_o.html.

I was quite offended at the way in which we were characterized by the program, and I wanted to urge people to visit RWD to learn the truth. In my enthusiasm, I also allowed myself to be baited into something which should never have occurred.

Someone posting as "Tough" made specific reference to actions which I took in connection with LEGAL and his wife Olga here at RWD some time back. That person's baiting questions seemed to me that they were coming from someone who had direct familiarity with the events of the past.

In exasperation, I made some comments about my reasoning to ban Olga. Since I had no way of knowing who was asking those questions - and since that is a very different setting than RWD - I simply should never have risen to the bait.

So ... while LEGAL and Olga are not active members here, I still want to make a formal public apology to them for my inappropriate remarks made at the Tyra Banks blog. I sincerely apologize for those comments. I will send them an email with my apology soon.

Next ... as some of you may recognize, I do not use my full name here and have been somewhat protective of my identity. I have been posting on the internet sites for a VERY long time, and learned long ago that there are some nutcases on the 'net who seek only to create problems for other people. With the 'high profile' that ownership of RWD brings me, and the internet crazies which accompany it, I have always felt it best for me and my family to maintain just a tiny bit of distance. This does not affect my posting of photos, obviously, but surname and other information is known by VERY few. The other thing which has discouraged me from being completely forthcoming is that I own and operate a small business. The work at RWD is, and always has been, merely a hobby. I did not want my hobby to interfere with my principal business, hence, this also contributed to my creation of some insulation.

Unfortunately, in an online dispute a while back, someone took it upon themselves to divulge everything they could find out about me and posted it online. It was a clear invasion of my privacy - but much more importantly, the fact that my personal details were made public exposes my family to threats and dangers from some of those nutcases I mentioned earlier. By the way, if anyone thinks I am blowing smoke about the nutcases I've had to deal with, just send me a PM and I can offer some stories which should convince you. That, and for those who knew Spencer at RWG, you know he had some horror stories to tell as well. The simple facts are - owning a board like this brings with it some hazards - and the little distance I kept by keeping my full name and address secret afforded me some feeling of security - real or perceived.

When that information was divulged in the past, I took aggressive action to have it removed. It seems that those actions - which included legal action - were misinterpreted by some. I admit that when I feel my family may be threatened, I respond vigorously. Of all the times I have gotten into some trouble in the recent past, it was when I felt my family was threatened and I took steps which, in a couple of instances, were over-strong.

So my second apology is to the members of RWD. I have not represented you as well as I should have. My aggressive tactics to protect my privacy and to create a small buffer of protection for my family seem to have  created a certain degree of enmity in some elements of the online community which I never intended, and there are those who would allow that to reflect on you. I am sincerely sorry for that.

- Dan

Offline Jazzyclassy

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1779
  • Country: ru
  • Gender: Female
  • Spouse's Country: No Selection
  • Status: Married 5-10 years
  • Trips: Resident
Re: Public Apology ... Two of them Actually ...
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2007, 03:05:58 AM »
Dan , do not worry , you have your right to protect your identity , no quesion about that, we all actually should be very careful with our personal information, I know what you 're talking about sayin there are crazy nut people out there who can use our personal private info in order to make us suffer, so never even worry about you giving only your name here

concerning Legal and Olga I liked them very much no matter anything , sadly that you had misunderstandings with them , I would love them to come back to our forum :)

Online 2tallbill

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13528
  • Country: us
  • Gender: Male
  • Living the dream
  • Spouse's Country: Russia
  • Status: Married > 10 years
  • Trips: > 10
Re: Public Apology ... Two of them Actually ...
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2007, 04:04:00 AM »
Dan, I agree that you should keep your private life private. Weirdo's and
creeps can cause you grief for no good reason.

I think that Legal and Olga have made very good and helpful advice here.
They did argue with others quite often but I rarely disagreed with them,
They also argued very well in my behalf about a previous issue which I am
sure that you are familiar with.

I will always appreciate their defense on my behalf.

They were very valuable members of this forum. I also think that they
would appreciate the apology that you made. Obviously, I can't speak
for them, but I have always considered them as friends that I have never
met.

Just my two kopecks,

Bill
FSUW are not for entry level daters
FSUW don't do vague
FSUW like a man of action. Be a man of action 
If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane.
There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Just kiss the girl, don't ask her first. Tolerate NO excuses!

Offline Simoni

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2542
  • Country: ua
  • Gender: Male
  • Spouse's Country: Ukraine
  • Status: Married 5-10 years
  • Trips: > 10
Re: Public Apology ... Two of them Actually ...
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2007, 05:41:49 AM »

... in an online dispute a while back, someone took it upon themselves to divulge everything they could find out about me and posted it online. It was a clear invasion of my privacy - but much more importantly, the fact that my personal details were made public exposes my family to threats and dangers from some of those nutcases I mentioned earlier.

When that information was divulged in the past, I took aggressive action to have it removed. It seems that those actions - which included legal action - were misinterpreted by some.

Dan, you have not only the right, but the resonsability to protect your family.  Your actions need no apology.  Any man would have done the same in terms of getting personal information removed from the web.

Those of us at RWD greatly appreciate the risks you take in making this forum possible.

Offline Jazzyclassy

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1779
  • Country: ru
  • Gender: Female
  • Spouse's Country: No Selection
  • Status: Married 5-10 years
  • Trips: Resident
Re: Public Apology ... Two of them Actually ...
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2007, 05:47:40 AM »
Exactly Dan, I agree with Simoni

people can be so angry about something and can be so mentally unstable and you will be suffering from them? of course not, actually in many russian forums Admins are only Admins they rarely give their real names at all and are very strict with people, unlike you :)
« Last Edit: August 13, 2007, 05:51:29 AM by Jazzyclassy »

Offline Admin

  • Administrator
  • *
  • Posts: 8211
  • Country: us
  • Gender: Male
  • Spouse's Country: No Selection
  • Status: No Selection
  • Trips: > 10
Re: Public Apology ... To DonAz This Time ...
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2007, 06:12:50 PM »
Don, I am sending this email to express my sincere apology to you. You recently sent me an email which I replied to, and included others on distribution. My reply should have been restricted to just the principals involved, and instead, I included several others - at least one, by mistake. I had been working to direct people to RWD from the Tyra Banks blog because I felt they were being deceived and misled by the Tyra Banks program. It distressed me when I encountered resistance from a representative of RUA, who should have been working WITH ME, instead of against me, to correct the lies and distortions. I am sure that experience contributed to my emotional state when replying to your email. I hope you can accept my apology, and that we are able to move forward productively.

- Dan

 

+-RWD Stats

Members
Total Members: 8890
Latest: madmaxx
New This Month: 1
New This Week: 0
New Today: 0
Stats
Total Posts: 546496
Total Topics: 20991
Most Online Today: 1169
Most Online Ever: 194418
(June 04, 2025, 03:26:40 PM)
Users Online
Members: 5
Guests: 1142
Total: 1147

+-Recent Posts

Re: Interesting Articles by Trenchcoat
Today at 03:28:46 AM

Re: Outlook for Children of joint Western/FSU relationships by Trenchcoat
Today at 12:29:25 AM

Re: The Struggle For Ukraine by Trenchcoat
Today at 12:20:14 AM

Re: Interesting Articles by krimster2
Yesterday at 03:21:09 PM

Re: The Struggle For Ukraine by krimster2
Yesterday at 09:24:31 AM

Re: Outlook for Children of joint Western/FSU relationships by krimster2
Yesterday at 08:59:40 AM

Re: The Struggle For Ukraine by Trenchcoat
August 14, 2025, 07:40:58 PM

Re: Outlook for Children of joint Western/FSU relationships by Trenchcoat
August 14, 2025, 07:39:08 PM

Re: Interesting Articles by JohnDearGreen
August 14, 2025, 06:44:23 PM

Re: The Struggle For Ukraine by krimster2
August 14, 2025, 04:18:00 PM

Powered by EzPortal

create account