Why abroad?

[I/O]

This subject has been discussed many times on many forums, however perhaps it is worth refreshing in order to make a point of focus for those in the search phase, if not some review for those who have and thus remind them of the value in what they have as a result.

Why someone from abroad? (I deliberately avoid the word foreign or foreigner as I find the term rather offensive) I suggest the following are at least some of the reasons men and women seek partners abroad and particularly relating to FSU/Western partnerships.

Western Men start/do:

1) Because they can.

2) Some use financial advantage to "Trade up".

3) A sense of the exotic.

4) It is becoming easier and more cost effective. (Communications and travel costs)

5) Belief in Slavic wifely superiority.

6) Chance meetings with someone.

7) Scammers arousing their interest.

Agency hype.

9) Lack of social ability locally.

10) They find love.


FSU Women start/do:

1) Because they can.

2) Possible financial trade up.

3) Lifestyle trade up. (Often more perception than reality)

4) A never ending stream of punters to choose from.

5) Chance meetings.

6) Sense of adventure.

7) Sense of the exotic. (Related to 6)

Many RM are not too keen about raising another guy's kids.

9) A ticket to further career options.

10) They find love.

Your thoughts? Please, if you post something as "Fact", demonstrate the independant source/s to support that "Fact".

I/O

[Gator]

I can give you my woman’s list of reasons and you can insert them however you choose.

She found it difficult to meet RM who were interesting, stable, serious and could provide for a family.  So she looked abroad for such a man. 

She experienced my American life and became very fond of it -  not just the security but the friendliness and the opportunities.  She now feels that she is more American than Russian, as if the stork mistakenly had delivered her at birth to the wrong country.

Of course there are the emotional feelings among the four of us that have evolved over 5+ years, and that subject is complex and personal.

[timothe]

I have always maintained that I could win the heart of a better quality woman in FSU than I could in the US and I still believe it.  It's not that I couldn't find anyone in the USA, but the quality of these women were very low. 

For example:  I watch NFL football at the local Buffalo Wild Wings every Sunday.  I've been hit on a few times there, mostly by the waitresses.  (because I helped one of them get rid of a creepy stalker dude.)  The most forward of these waitresses wears Bears clothing to work. (I am a Bears fan.) 

One week, I'm walking by this girl and she jumps on me unsolicited then proceeds to tell me that she shouldn't jump so high because she's not wearing any underwear.  Now I liked this for about two seconds  , then realized that a woman who is so willing to admit such things to me might be willing to do such things to just about anyone. 

Don't get me wrong...there are women like that in FSU as well.  (I met them as well.)  But to me, it seems like the decent women in the USA are the exception, not the rule.  While in FSU, it seems like you have to go to certain places to find these types of women...most seem to have more respect for themselves. 

Also, I wanted to find someone that is reasonably intelligent and educated.  It seems to me that pop culture completely permeates AW while FSU women have a broader base of experience and education to talk about.  My Olga has two Masters degrees and she is always surprising me with her ability to understand concepts that are foreign to her and then relate them to what she has learned.  I have only met one AW who has any interest in things outside of her small world.  (and we're still friends...she has been married to a friend of mine for a long time)

So I guess I am in the "trade up" camp. 

[BillyB]

  It's not that I couldn't find anyone in the USA, but the quality of these women were very low. 

All one has to do is look at dating sites in America compared to the FSU and there is no comparison, the women from the FSU beat out the American women. There are many good women in America but they get snatched up quick and stay married.

I look to the FSU because I think Slavic women are the best looking women in the World.

[Lily]

This subject has been discussed many times on many forums, however perhaps it is worth  

Why someone from abroad? (I deliberately avoid the word foreign or foreigner as I find the term rather offensive) I suggest the following are at least some of the reasons men and women seek partners abroad and particularly relating to FSU/Western partnerships.
 

I'd rephrase it: not quite abroad but just internationally. Men who don't mind having a wife from other countries and culture are usually thinking far beyond their boxes, and are willing to expand their horizons. For instance, I used to work in companies where a mixed couple is more usual than that from the same countries.

FSU Women start/do:

1) Because they can. - Agree, some women are pretty but still not pretty enough for RM. Additionally, some women speak languages, have foreign degrees, have few familial or other ties at home, etc - that woud make an international search a good option.

2) Possible financial trade up. - no comments, don't know what to say here.

3) Lifestyle trade up. (Often more perception than reality) - Probably agree. By lifestyle, I also understand the little, often unnoticed daily comfort that a human experiences every moment of her life. For instance, when I walk out the door of a Russian home every morning, with my every step I risk to fall down and to injure myself, because the streets are either slippery or insecure in some other way. When I am on the street, I inhale lots of dust and a poisoned air from cars and from the neibour factories. Therefore, a person is in a permanent discomfort. I never ever experienced it in the West.

4) A never ending stream of punters to choose from. - I would not tell it is good. A woman needs just one man, no more, but in order to find that one, she needs to meet many. That would be rather negative than positive thing.

5) Chance meetings. - see above comment.

6) Sense of adventure. - Not sure. I prefer a well planned, calculated and predictable adventure  

7) Sense of the exotic. (Related to 6) - Rather not. On the opposite, I'd like to have a WM because I can better understand them.

Many RM are not too keen about raising another guy's kids. - probably yes

9) A ticket to further career options. - In my case that would rather be a downshifting and compromise. But for many women, depending on profession, that seems to be true.

10) They find love.  - Oh yes!

[Bruno]

Why someone from abroad?

In my own case, it is easy to understand why... from our capital, if you make 150 km in any direction, your are in a other country ( neightbourg from Belgium are UK, Netherland, Germany, Luxemburg, France )... Since Russia and Ukraine are located on the European continent, they are not far from us...

Other culture is not really a problem here... 3 languages and 3 culture in a country with a total population like these of the city of Moscow...

In my own case, i was sailor during 9 year... 11 month abroad for one month at home...

[possum]

I can sort of relate to #8 on the second list.. I know I could never raise somebody else's child with the daddy still in the picture.. Having to see the guy that used to, umm how should I put it, sleep with my wife would be too much for me to deal with on a regular basis.. But hey, that's just me.. Not every RM is as close-minded as I am..