Monthly membership websites.

[Mars]

Hello existing members.  I am new here and just posted on the Introductions Forum.

I am planning for a first trip to Ukraine.

I have read here the problems with agencies who sell addresses one by one and have decided to avoid all companies that provide contact information in that manner.

I want to deal with the websites that will sell monthly memberships for unlimited contact with all ladies listed on their website.

I have seen Lucky Lovers mentioned often and have looked at that website.

I would like to compile a list of all such websites that provide monthly memberships along with free sites of course.

I have tried google, but it returns tons of hits that do not fit the bill.  Most steer you to "hot RW" who you can contact one by one for a fee.  Not what I want.

So please help a newbie and tell me the English language websites you are familiar with that have either:
1) free unlimited contact with the ladies or
2) provide unlimited contact for a monthly fee.

Thanks.

[GoodOlBoy]

Hi Mars, NO endorsement intended, but take a look here and see what you think:


http://www.rbrides.com/


WARNING!!!! Scammers are everywhere!!!

[SANDRO43]

So please help a newbie and tell me the English language websites you are familiar with that have either:
1) free unlimited contact with the ladies or
2) provide unlimited contact for a monthly fee.

Mars, here's a page from my website

www.floriani.it/sitirussi/elencositi-eng.htm

listing MANY websites subdivided by typology. It's rather out of date (2004) but may serve as an initial starting point .

[Faux Pas]

Mars,

I have heard few complaints on Elena's Models which is advertised on this forum. In fact it is the reason I found this forum. I personally found Elena's to be exactly what I was looking for. Unlimited contact (expressions of interest) and information passed freely. Others may feel different. Before I found Elena's I tried some of the others to a point I nearly gave up from disgust and a few hundred bucks lighter. I am now glad that I didn't.

[BillyB]

Hi Mars, NO endorsement intended, but take a look here and see what you think:


http://www.rbrides.com/


WARNING!!!! Scammers are everywhere!!!

Scammers are everywhere but it's hard to find a decent woman if the agency or datings site is scamming their customers. I wouldn't recommend rbrides, they are listed at anti scam sites along with the scammers.

[openbutcynical]

Who would you recommend billy?

[BillyB]

I like dating sites such as freepersonals.ru and bride.ru because there is nobody in the middle of your communications with the ladies. There are good agencies out there that do not play games with it's customers. I'd hate to recommend one since I haven't done business with any but typing in their name and the word "scam" or "anti scam" can give you feedback on what others have to say. No bad news or complaints on the internet is good news for the company. Some men need services such as translators, guides, taxi service, accommodations, or a company to set up dates and that's the advantage of an agency over a dating site.

[Sculpto]

vkontakt and dont look for a wife.. just make friends

[Mars]

Thanks for the replies so far.

Some months ago, when I was just a lurker here, I saw a question similar to mine asking about monthly pay sites.  Seemed like there were quite a few responses with a lot of websites mentioned.  But I can't find that thread.

I have tried the search function here using various words for montly pay, etc., but I get nothing.

Anyone have a link to that previous thread?

But either way,  please keep feeding me new websites.  Thanks

[groovlstk]

Mars, just my advice, but don't put all your eggs in one basket. You have field experience so you don't need an agency to hold your hand. Branch out, use free personals, Russian dating sites, chat clients, etc. in addition to agencies and you'll benefit by putting yourself in front of a larger segment of the available female population.

[dispozo]

I used RussianEuro, They have a ad on this site somewhere. This is were I met my fiancee.

Like anywhere else you have to be smart about things. I had a few ladies tell me almost the same story.

If I remember correctly you could write to as many ladies you like. They also had chat and video chat, which I liked. You can also send your email address in your letters.

Good luck!!

[kryten41]

If you are looking in Ukraine, you might want to try www.chance.crimea.ua.
I should also point out that when I was a member at elenasmodels, I noticed a  number of the same women were also listed at freepersonals.ru, which doesn't charge.

[Mars]

Mars, just my advice, but don't put all your eggs in one basket. You have field experience so you don't need an agency to hold your hand. Branch out, use free personals, Russian dating sites, chat clients, etc. in addition to agencies and you'll benefit by putting yourself in front of a larger segment of the available female population.

Thanks groov.  But if you read my first post you can see (maybe I didn't write so clearly), I am avoiding agencies totally.  I only want information on match websites that have monthly (or no) fees for contact with all the ladies listed.  No middlemen.

So please tell me the specific URLs of the sites that you are recommending in your above words.   

[Gator]

Mars,

I met women from Elena's Models and Free Personals.

The EM women receive much attention because there are many men members.  However, you are looking for someone special as is she.  So keep trying and do not be discouraged.

EM has the EOI (expression of interest) feature which quickly eliminates women with whom you would never succeed.

Agree with Groovlstk's suggestion to try many sources.

The problem with working with such listing agencies is that women are scattered over 10 time zones.  Eventually you have to focus on where you want to go, and you can not visit all of them.

[Bart]

Thanks groov.  But if you read my first post you can see (maybe I didn't write so clearly), I am avoiding agencies totally.  I only want information on match websites that have monthly (or no) fees for contact with all the ladies listed.  No middlemen.

Mars, before I give my 2 Kopecks, I did read all the posts you made here.   But please allow me to offer advice that may go against your total disregard of agencies.  Groovistk has given you good advice.  Don't put all of your eggs in one basket.

Of the various means of connecting with FSU girls, here are my thoughts:

Local Agencies-   One of the best means of dating, as long as you select an honest agency.  An honest agency is one that brings real girls into their listings; girls interested in foreign men.  Honest agencies have a track record or history of connecting women with men.  Request references of men who have met success.  Now-- in terms of cost, do expect to pay.  That is how the agency stays in business.  Cost per letter is not a bad way to go. Just don't write too many letters.  Write a few and then go meet the girl.  But DO be careful and use only honest agencies.  The bad ones are truly bad, and a waste of your time and money.  The good ones  can hook you up with a variety of girls for casual dates. Dates in which both of you can judge if further dating is a good idea.

Romance Tours-  The is the worst way to meet FSU women.  Don't do a tour, unless your goal is simply to get to know the country and her major cities.  Otherwise, a tour is a waste of time and money, at the very least.  Or, perhaps you will get tied up with a "working girl?"  Just don't do it.

Dating Services-  Services like EM are pretty good.  The problem is that girls are scattered everywhere.  You might consider a WOVO partial trip with an EM girl.  Then move on to one city and a good agency and meet a number of women.

Free Personals- More and more guys are going this route, but they are a haven for scammers.  A local agency has screened their clients.  With free personals, you are on your own, and very likely to encounter a scammer.  Watch your back if you go this route.

Guide- More and more companies and individuals are offering the elite service of pre-screening girls for the man and then connecting him with the women that fit what he is searching for.  This can be expensive, but not as expensive as several futile trips.  This is a good option.

Those are my thoughts, based upon my experiences.  I'll close with my number one recommendation:

Backdoor It The best way to meet real and honest FSU women is by living in their environment.  Go to one city.  Rent a flat.  Mingle with the locals.  Use a local agency.  Meet FSU women at English clubs.  Pick them up at the movies or bowling lanes.   You'll see groups of women going places together.   Meet them with the idea of just being friends.  They will take an interest in you, and try to "hook you up" with friends they have!  If you have a month, this is an excellent way to go!

Good luck, Mars.

~ Bart

[Ridersfan]

   
      Cherry Blossoms

  Once upon a time it was one of the best, and  one of the originals. It dates back to pre-net. I met 2 ladies through them but also had to avoid a lot of scammers.

 When I used them the cost was about $30.00 per month for unlimited contacts.

  They originally started as a Filipino dating site but later expanded their horizons. If you join and use their chat service, you will find that it is still mainly Filipino women. ( I haven't been a member for over 3 years so this may have changed). But there are many women from FSU on the site.

       http://www.blossoms.com/

[GoodOlBoy]

Backdoor It. The best way to meet real and honest FSU women is by living in their environment.  Go to one city.  Rent a flat.  Mingle with the locals.  Use a local agency.  Meet FSU women at English clubs.  Pick them up at the movies or bowling lanes.   You'll see groups of women going places together.   Meet them with the idea of just being friends.  They will take an interest in you, and try to "hook you up" with friends they have!  If you have a month, this is an excellent way to go![/quote]

Hello Mars.

This method works. I endorse it wholeheartedly. Just make sure you have at least one free month (better 2-3 months) and study a little RUSSIAN before you go (so you can communicate). Don't assume all Russian women know English. They don't.

One thing I can tell you about Russian women, they are quick learners. IMHO, there is no comparison between RW and AW when it comes to learning any topic.

Russian women are very smart, hands down. No contest. GOB