Some good advice from the past.

[JR]

anono posted this back in 2005. It seems to me many could benefit from it today so I wanted to repost some of it.

i know many of the men who travel here do not have the time to get to know the lady or ladies they are interested in. i understand, to a degree, why some men become engaged quickly but i do not understand why some of the men here cheer them on. when your lady gets off the airplane in the usa, she will be almost a total stranger.  russian men do not become engaged to these ladies in a day or a week or a month. most of the american men would never do this back home so i have a hard time understanding (other than time retraints) why they would do so here.

as i look back at the two major relationships i have had with UW and a shorter one with an RW, i see how spending time with them is so important. i look back at one of those relationships and almost do not see how it went as far as it did. getting to know someone takes time. had i jumped the gun with any of the three, it would have been a disaster.

spending time with your prospective mate is so crucial, all i can do is implore those of you who are moving quickly to try as best you can to come HERE and spend time with your lady before bringing her to the states. i will go as far to say, even if and when you do bring her to the staes, make it a visit without the added pressure of being engaged and expecting to marry. a friend of mine as well as myself have had some interesting discussions with U/RW who are already in the states..each and every one of the ladies suggested that it would have been eaiser for them to have come here without the added pressure of an impending wedding.

as it looks now, "j" is going to come to the usa sometime next year and we will not be engaged. it will be a visit. she does not want to live in the usa, she would prefer i move to ukraine. for that matter, i suggested siberia and she replied, "ok, i with you". she could not care less where we live as long as she is with me. i can only hope you guys can find a lady with a similar attitude.

two of the RW i spoke with in the usa are both married. both are having affairs with other men while they are married and living with the idiots who asked them to marry them before actually spending any time together. one is married to a pathologist who spent eight days with her before asking her to marry him. she is a "9" and he is 30 years older than she is. she is now studying medicine and seeing another med student while being a wife and mother to the old guys eight month old son. the other woman married her idiot because she felt obligated since he paid for some sort of surgery her son needed. needless to say, both of these men are clueless to what is really going on. one said "comparison is a great education", meaning once they got here and saw who they were with and what was available to them, they quickly "upgraded" while still using the idiots for room and board while waiting to get the necessary time in for citizenship.

all i can say is, you folks who are rushing things better know what you are doing and what can happen once you bring a woman you hardly know back to the states.

i wish i could make some of you see what i see now, things i can only see because i have spent over a year, going on two, over the past three years here. and i still do not know nearly as much as men like jack bragg and others with even more experience than me.

i think it is written in the tablets of stone, and it should be if it is not: date like you do in the usa. why suddenly become engaged to a stranger when you would never think of it back home?

take your time guys..  spend as much time as you can getting to know your lady. if it takes several trips over time, it is far better than regretting  your haste down the road when you have far more to lose.

having said all this, my first lady, svetlana, went to the states to see a man she spent 2 days with here in ukraine. i ran into her on my flight home one trip. she did tell me she would not marry the guy unless she felt she could love him.. she called me (from her new home is the states) when the bombs went off in sharm el sheik since we had spent a week there together (she told me it was the best trip of her life). she ended up marrying the guy but she didn't sound too enthused about it. i think (and this is not ego speaking) she would rather be with me, even now.

i will repeat, you would not think of marrying a stranger in the usa, what makes you think this will be any different?

and to those of you who are cheerleaders out there, encouraging these men to make foolish decisions, shame on you.


Wise words...thx anono

[Muddy]

two of the RW i spoke with in the usa are both married. both are having affairs with other men while they are married and living with the idiots who asked them to marry them before actually spending any time together. one is married to a pathologist who spent eight days with her before asking her to marry him. she is a "9" and he is 30 years older than she is. she is now studying medicine and seeing another med student while being a wife and mother to the old guys eight month old son. the other woman married her idiot because she felt obligated since he paid for some sort of surgery her son needed. needless to say, both of these men are clueless to what is really going on. one said "comparison is a great education", meaning once they got here and saw who they were with and what was available to them, they quickly "upgraded" while still using the idiots for room and board while waiting to get the necessary time in for citizenship.

There are idiots everywhere, one of them who posts here and stalks male posters calls himself the DEFENDER OF RUSSIAN WOMEN! 
I wonder how the RW who post here feel about captain Kangaroo!

[Gator]

There are idiots everywhere, one of them who posts here and stalks male posters calls himself the DEFENDER OF RUSSIAN WOMEN! 
I wonder how the RW who post here feel about captain Kangaroo!

A few points:

1.  Groovlstk said he has been a defender of RM.  As amply evident, RW can take care of themselves at RWD.

2.  Groovlstk is not an idiot. 

3.  I fail to see a connection between your post and JR's post.

BTW, are you planning to visit the FSU again?  I thought that you had given up on RW.


 

[Muddy]

BTW, are you planning to visit the FSU again?  

I don't know, at this time I have no plans Gator.