Hi everybody! I'm Russian Scammer!

[Boethius]

Someone reported you, and you will not know why.  They may have even reported someone with your name who was a scammer.  Sometimes men do this out of vindictiveness.

I would have a Russian lawyer write a letter, noting that action will be taken in a Russian court if they do not remove your name, and provide you with evidence thereof.  I would also write that any judgment for damages awarded by the Russian court will be registered and enforced in the United States.  That is possible to do, though it is costly.

[Rina_G]

Rina, there are a few ways that guys can see you are listed on a scam site. They can google your name, email address, or phone number. Use a different variation of your name when communicating with guys and different email address. I don't think you're a scammer because you would have already thought of that.

Hi Billy!
Tanks for post and I think so - it's way to change contact information. and I looking for in Google my information - everything was OK.
it was very important for me that man which said me about blacklist was smart and wise. I could find words and arguments and he beleived me.
I calm cause not all men read this blacklist? I calm cause I know who I'm.
And I would like to take mens attention on this problem cause you can loose good woman sometime.Lasr evening in this forum I found two good men (married on Russian women) who want to help me to removefrom this list.
I worry nor about me - I worry about many and many honest  and activ women who really want to find their happyness.
    

[Aloe]

One small detaile - man who was talking me about it said also that from 115 leters which he got 85 (!!!) was sent scammers. It's terrible cause it's impossible.
but you like to beleive that around there are so many scammers.

IMO it is very possible. You have to look like brad pitt or claim to be rich to get that many letters (i assume he got 115 in, say, 2-3 months, not in 5 years), that high interest for a regular man, it would be mostly scammers, altho it partly depends which websites he is counting, some are more legit than others

[Rina_G]

I talk not about 115 letters - it might be more and less - it depends from age and pics and profile man.
I talk about next - from 115 women who wrote him 85 women was scammers cause they was in blacklist.
he was check out this.
and I don't beleive that there are so many men who was enter them in blacklist.
it's impossible.
in dating there so many real and nice women and I know many of them - we meet and talk in skype.
I agree scammers are too but not in such proportion

[UTRO]

I talk not about 115 letters - it might be more and less - it depends from age and pics and profile man.
I talk about next - from 115 women who wrote him 85 women was scammers cause they was in blacklist.
he was check out this.
and I don't beleive that there are so many men who was enter them in blacklist.
it's impossible.
in dating there so many real and nice women and I know many of them - we meet and talk in skype.
I agree scammers are too but not in such proportion

Rina, the man who you are talking with is probably quite correct about the number of scammers he is getting letters from.
My wife translates letters for dating sites and she is quite convinced that 85% of the letters are from scammers.
This really makes it tough for any FSU woman to convince a Western man that she is legitimate.

[Rina_G]

   
Maybe you're right, I will not argue.
Each of us - men and women -  see one side of the coin.
Statistics on the scammers, of course not. this is just assumption and thinks.
I know many women who are actually looking for her husband.
Thank God that they find.
I like this ugly story ended.
I think after my letter to the administration site, they removed me from the black list because today I noticed this change in my features on the site.
I checked it out and tell.
Thanks all who have read, thought, replied and beleived me.

[myrddin]

It sounds like you're off the list, now, Rina_G. Congratulations and good luck in your search.


As for the numbers, it is possible that both "sides" are correct. 

A bit of a simplified/exagerrated case (not based on any real statistics, mind you):

If of 100 RW, 90 are "real" and 10 are scammers, each honest RW can send maybe a few letters a week (between work, obligations, and probably struggling with a foreign language).  Call that 270 "real" letters. 

With e-mail programs and form letters (and perhaps no "real" job!), 10 scammers can send thousands of letters a week.  If they send 2700 (which might be a conservative estimate), you have a situation where only 10% of the RW are scammers, but only 10% of the letters men receive are real.

So most men can receive lots of letters from scammers, even if scammers are the minority. 


Nonetheless, a number of people on this board have found spouses.  Many have met many real FSUW.  Certainly success must be *possible*, but we do need to be aware of potential pitfalls.

[Rina_G]

Yes of course, we should be aware of potential pitfalls.
I also met several times with scammers-men.
But this does not mean that I no longer believe anyone who is responsible or wrote to me.
I know what is real and what it smells like scammers.
It is easy to calculate.
It is easy to read between the lines.
I am not angry with them - I'm laughing.
I'm not going to lose my head and send the money.
until I tell him goodbye - I'll check a few inconsistencies.
If interested, I can write your list.
Maybe between male and female skammerstom much in common?

[JR]

Hi Rina and welcome to the forum. Glad you got your name cleared Hope your search goes well and you find someone to be happy with!

[JR]

Oh and since Rina has been cleared can anyone tell me if this one is a scammer or not? I got this email on scanna.com this morning, it is her first to me and I am trying to decide if she is sincere or a scammer...

"Greetings. Help me please! To Me it is necessary 1000 $ on studying of English language!"


ID: 202349
Date of birth: May 15, 1985 (Taurus)
Height: 5' 7" ( 170cm )
Weight: 121lbs ( 55kg )
Education: University
Occupation: The seller
Religion: Christianity
Drinking habits: Socially
Smoking habits: Yes
View Elena's city at MSN Encarta®
 
Personality: The quiet
 
Interests: Me cars, hours, and laptops interest!!!
 
Looking for a man: Men at which in a shower warmly are interesting to me, instead of those from which attracts a cold! (Preferable Age: from 20 to 50).

[Rina_G]

Hi Rina and welcome to the forum. Glad you got your name cleared Hope your search goes well and you find someone to be happy with!

Hi and thanks!
I really apresciate for trust and support. and I just know life is beauty.thanks for your wishes and Russians say - to God in ears - lol.
and about girls letter.
I never think - scammer or not. I think - what I'll do with.
I didn't reply on this letter.
It's bad when we began to talk from quantities.
may be this girls wants to show her sinsere - I don't know.
But I know there are many ways to show her sincere and open mind and real beauty.
if she'll understand with your silence that it's bad way to connect - will good.
I remember what letters i sent in the beginning of searshing - mama mia - lol!
but her pic is nice
Rina   

[JR]

Thanks Rina. I posted it more as a joke than anything else. Anyone who's introductory letter is a one sentence request for $1000 is a scammer. I won't be responding to her

[Rina_G]

also for me very important - wish to age.
If I see - lookwoman from 18 to 80 - I din't write.
in your case was - man from 20 to 50.
Interval mustn't more than 10-12 years, maximum 15 - for lovers old men - lol
Scammers men (around 40 y/o) wrote I'm looking for woman from 35 to 55 - is it really?

[Mars]

I also met several times with scammers-men.
I know what is real and what it smells like scammers.
It is easy to calculate.
It is easy to read between the lines.

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Rina, I am not comprehending that there are really very many men scammers, as the word is properly interpreted.

Could you please explain to us what you mean by the word 'scammer' as applied to the men that you have met?

[Rina_G]

Thanks for question Mars

Yes I met some classes scammer-men and 'll tell about every class.
Hope it isn't big news for us

[Rina_G]

1.   Beggars
With this all quite simple. These are people (both men and women) who live in countries with even greater financial problems than we have. They also come in two types - fast-and long-playing. These scammers usually choose women after 45, young girls are not interesting for their. They are looking for women with the good profession, job and income.

They very quickly talk about feelings, begin to love until death in the first or second day of the correspondence. Scenarios their life are hard luck, a bad marriage (his wife dies in a car accident, or a drug addict or an alcoholic), can «live» with a child from 3 to 8 years, a steady income. A few days later he tells about the trip to Nigeria and Guinea, requests your mobile phone. In Nigeria, he has a some kind of nightmare - locked card, the revolution began, he fell ill. Conclusion immediately took to address the Nigerian money.

Shortplay gamer asks for money after 2-3 days. The amount varies from 400 to 800 dollars a time. My friend from Kiev 49 years old and a lawyer by education become such a magnet scammers. In the spring, she caught them 28 pieces. It seems that precocious scammers - it's easy. Inexperienced in dating can be dizzy for a day. My friend decided to stop searching after the scammers - to remove the form and lost faith in the decent men.
Long-playing - may be mocked you for months. They hunt for big fish, so go as a shark circles, each describing the following terms of getting closer and closer. They can get to 50 000 dollars (I know examples).

Such scammers caught me. He wrote to me about the supernatural love for three weeks, was going to come after business trip to Malaysia. I could not get through to his U.S. number he gave me. But his Malaysian number work very well, he called me regularity and spoke good English.

At the beginning of dating, while not accumulate any information, you believe that all of his words - the truth. Then the information is not stick, the cases differ with words. I got three times his 6 the same pictures. Photo his one son, who was going to call me mother, was a size 1.5 * 2 cm.  All pics were inscriptions Charles Dove 1, 2, 3, etc. Tell me, why I write my name on the photo, I do not remember it? I am writing - Hamburg, or sea, or Amsterdam, or winter09.

Every day he promised me to open cam and every day is not included - has broken, not bought, not installed. He promised to come to me and forgot to ask what country I live in what city it fly, how far I live from Moscow, and where we can meet.

I realized that before me - scammers, but I wanted to wait out of curiosity, when he asks for money. But then I felt sorry for wasted time (three weeks of free evenings), I wrote him a goodbye.
In response, I received the following message.

Forget about me Ok, they are alot of woman in the world, Rubbish!!!!!!!!!!

This is only one type of scammers. To continue?

[BC]

To continue?

Please do.. interesting.

[Mars]

OK Rina, I understand your words.  However, what you describe is not the same type of 'scammer' that men on these forums talk about in terms of FSU women scammers.

What you are describing relates to Nigerian type of scams that both men and women from all parts of the world are subject to.  Men also get these unsolicited e-mails from Nigerians and others with all sorts of schemes whereby if you put up a little money, you can share  a lot of money, bla, bla, bla.

Now, what I want to know Rina is if you have ever been scammed or been subject to an attempted scam from a genuine Western man who is involved with International dating of FSU women.  I doubt seriously if that is the case.

[Rina_G]

Hi guys!
Thank you for questions and suggestions. In one themes of the forum, I saw the classification of scammers women. I can tell you about scammers-men.
Let defined in terms of whom I think scammers. This is a man who deceives a woman who uses рук, hiding their true intentions.
And second I wanted to draw attention. I am telling you this not to make you feel sorry for me or wanted to help. This is already long gone and it does not hurt more. Everyone must go his own way to happiness, and every step I must do myself. If I need help, I will ask.
I would like to show you the other side of dating, you do not know if this is interesting.
I do not ask your pity and sympathy.
It's just a story, it's just information, it's just a topic for discussion.
This position is for my story.
Well?

[Gator]

OK Rina, I understand your words.  However, what you describe is not the same type of 'scammer' that men on these forums talk about in terms of FSU women scammers.

What you are describing relates to Nigerian type of scams that both men and women from all parts of the world are subject to.  Men also get these unsolicited e-mails from Nigerians and others with all sorts of schemes whereby if you put up a little money, you can share  a lot of money, bla, bla, bla.

Now, what I want to know Rina is if you have ever been scammed or been subject to an attempted scam from a genuine Western man who is involved with International dating of FSU women.  I doubt seriously if that is the case.

To me the man who attempted to scam Rina has a MO identical to the scam attempted by many RW.  Three weeks of correspondence probably with canned letters.  Feelings grow to "supernatural" love.  Rigged photos that may be photos of someone else.   Excuse after excuse for not sending new photos.  Then asking for money.

[Rina_G]

yes Gator you understood me very well, thanks
and if this was on first time without experience of dating it was hard and very sick.
but now I can look, listen and think but just after - feel.
it's just one type.
Please give me possible to tell about another - lol

[Rina_G]

2. Internet husbands

Oh, this is the most dangerous type of scammers. They are real people, intelligent and interesting conversationalist. They send you the actual photos, they will switch to Skype and MSN. They may even call you at first, to strengthen your faith in their reality and authenticity.
They are successful people with money and status. They may even look like an ideal choice, and as such can be very, very long time. Until a woman has the patience to swallow his constant «tomorrow».
They have the status, education, stable jobs, real estate for life and recreation, friends, relatives and a little free time for pleasant conversation with an intelligent and beautiful woman after evening tea.
He has a lot of positive qualities, he hasn’t only one thing - the desire to make a real virtual acquaintance. He may even meet you one day if he comes to work in your country. But you will never find a place in his real life.
I paid for this valuable experience 3 and a half months of my life. Some women hang on such acquaintance for years. But even for a couple of months she gets used to the man, his constant presence in her life. Every night is a pleasant conversation. And you become internet wife.
He promised to teach me Italian, every night for 15 minutes. He spoke of the feelings (or rather wrote). He talks about a possible meeting in a couple of weeks of dating. You plan a date. But then it is delayed - initially for a month, then two, then up to Christmas or the summer, then to the summer or Christmas.
When it was all over, I’m strong woman, but I gathered myself in parts of three days. And he still sits on the site and looking for new women.
Such communication tolerably well look at the social sites, chat rooms and forums. But I'm talking about dating site where to woman come to searching.

Please without tears - lol

To continue?

[groovlstk]

He has a lot of positive qualities, he hasn’t only one thing - the desire to make a real virtual acquaintance. He may even meet you one day if he comes to work in your country. But you will never find a place in his real life.

To me this behavior is much worse than scamming. I've known women who were on the hook with such men (unhappily married and looking for virtual emotional and sexual connections with unsuspecting women) for months, even years.

[SMS60]

OK Rina, I understand your words.  However, what you describe is not the same type of 'scammer' that men on these forums talk about in terms of FSU women scammers.

What you are describing relates to Nigerian type of scams that both men and women from all parts of the world are subject to.  Men also get these unsolicited e-mails from Nigerians and others with all sorts of schemes whereby if you put up a little money, you can share  a lot of money, bla, bla, bla.

Now, what I want to know Rina is if you have ever been scammed or been subject to an attempted scam from a genuine Western man who is involved with International dating of FSU women.  I doubt seriously if that is the case.

I believe she is talking about the  "keyboard romeos".

[Rina_G]

Now, what I want to know Rina is if you have ever been scammed or been subject to an attempted scam from a genuine Western man who is involved with International dating of FSU women.  I doubt seriously if that is the case.

If you want to know - did I give money for someone - I want to ask you.
Look my pics and say am I looking as woman without head?
I never gave any money, I won't make this in future any men (exept my son) - Western, Russian or Eastern.
for me there are no men who ask money from women.