A woman of your age

[Doll]

I agree with you (twice in one week, it is a new record Smiley)

[Doll]

I agree with you (twice in one week, it is a new record ). Why would men go overseas if they could find the same type of woman at home? Why spend all that time, energy and money for "an accent"? I don't buy it. Plus, the man will likely have to suffer along with his future spouse as she will likely go through culture shock and homesickness. Plus, she is likely to spend years establishing a new career. Why would any sane man take on all of this if he does not think he will find a better wife overseas, and better is usually defined in terms of younger and more attractive, though some men will IMHO claim that it is because they are really looking for a "traditional" wife.

[RussianWind]

Why ? Are inexperienced young men prohibited in the east ?

They are not but they do not look.

[Doll]

One final bit -- I also think that the following is often in an AM's thoughts: 
If one is going to commit to incredible amounts of searching, writing, calling, interpretation, financial expense, time, travel, governmental paperwork, support (especially while she becomes acclimated to her new home and country), and this overall phantasmagorically immense amount of work involved, it had better be worth it.

 
I have no doubts about it, we already discussed it. It's just shopping- "for my money I want the best possible, 90 days guarantee or my money back" In this case no money back but "send her home" 
Come on, guys!
Then for the God's sake- stay home and use less money! Why Russia? If it's not the deal with blue passport.

[Doll]

They are not but they do not look.

No, they don't. They would be very surprised to just think of it. Why? Because they (and we) live in the country with millions of women, many of them ARE young and damn attractive. I am talking of AW.
 BTW my younger started dating so if you ask this Russian guy why   he isn't thinking of dating in Russia he would be veeeeeeeeeery surprised.

[RussianWind]

I have no doubts about it, we already discussed it. It's just shopping- "for my money I want the best possible, 90 days guarantee or my money back" In this case no money back but "send her home" 

It's a bit sharp but don't you think she caught you, Mitch 

I think you are more focused on attractive forms (certain level of education + certain level of social position - doctor, professor etc + young & pretty) but you forget about mutual chemistry. And I think it is where you fail. You think she is ideal for you but when you go to see her in real, it doesn't work.

I think one should go for a meeting when he feels it is 100% his lady, understanding on all levels and brain produces endorphines when you communicate 

[docetae]

It's a bit sharp but don't you think she caught you, Mitch 

I think you are more focused on attractive forms (certain level of education + certain level of social position - doctor, professor etc + young & pretty) but you forget about mutual chemistry. And I think it is where you fail. You think she is ideal for you but when you go to see her in real, it doesn't work.

I think one should go for a meeting when he feels it is 100% his lady, understanding on all levels and brain produces endorphines when you communicate 

Not always the rule...
And the inverse can be true... you can go to a meeting with absolutely no expectation other than killing time and you finish married ... this is what happened to us.

[Doll]

I think you are more focused on attractive forms (certain level of education + certain level of social position - doctor, professor etc + young & pretty) but you forget about mutual chemistry. And I think it is where you fail. You think she is ideal for you but when you go to see her in real, it doesn't work.

There is nothing wrong with searching for looks and professional qualities.
A pretty doctor is better than a dull cashier even for me.

[LAman]

I don't know this expression. Something American?

Young men do not look at the east. They should have experience with locals first.

Lets see....Cougar vs Kitten.....hmmmmmmmmmmm, I choose Kitten!!! 

[RussianWind]

A pretty doctor is better than a dull cashier even for me.

How about dull pretty doctors? 

[Doll]

How about dull pretty doctors?  

Men are thinking of looks! Always been so. Women are looking for handsome men and money.
What is dull for you is not for men.
As for AW searching- they (if they understand the immigration right) pick cuties. Nothing wrong. You, RussianWind, while shopping will not go for dull products, will you?
International dating and dating in general IS shopping. We buy stuff according to how much we have in our wallets. In our case there is blue passport and money (and common sense if there is some)

[Misha]

As for AW searching- they (if they understand the immigration right) pick cuties. Nothing wrong.

The phenomenon of international dating is not limited only to men. Though it is not as well advertised, there are women from Canada and Europe (I know less about the United States) who will go to tropical countries for "romance." Women who cannot get hot young men at home, will sometimes travel to the Caribbean or certain African countries for attention. Of course, in exchange, they will give various monetary gifts to the young men who will give them the "romance" they need. Some women from Canada will even marry their young gentleman and then set about sponsoring them to have them join them in Canada.

[RussianWind]

The phenomenon of international dating is not limited only to men

I know it affected "blue men" too. I met such couple. A Norwegian genleman of age around 50 brought a 25 y.o. Malasian guy to his country. I guess they already splitted because a year later he came to Russia along and met a Nigerian student here 

[RussianWind]

You, RussianWind, while shopping will not go for dull products, will you?

If you knew me better, you wouldn't ask such stupid questions. I normally act irrationally and get lot of dull products in my basket. I do speak about dating 

[Misha]

I know it affected "blue men" too.

True. The only limiting factor would be whether their country allows for the sponsoring of a same-sex partner for immigration purposes.

[Gator]

I think one should go for a meeting when he feels it is 100% his lady, understanding on all levels and brain produces endorphines when you communicate 

Yes, I have done that, and within 10 minutes of meeting her the "rush" has wilted and the endorphins replaced by melotonins.     A 100 letters and phone calls went "Poof."

Russian Wind, how important is it to evaluate whether you share basic values (e. g., religion or lack thereof, importance of money, children), have aligned goals,  and have some overlapping interests?  Please read Phantom's trip report.  I think he was feeling really good just before he met his "date for the week."

[remiel6]

Its been fascinating to read this thread. I totally understand the poster who spent 23 years in the military. I did not spend this time in the army, but in the process of other things. As I got older I realized I was missing something. Goals are nice, but in the end we grow old and it would be nice to have someone to grow older with. I paid a price for the choices I've made and I don't regret a one of them. That being said my fiance is more than 10 years younger than me and I don't regret it all. People make relationships not statistics. My parents are 8 years apart, knew each other for a month before they got married and have been married for 40 years. It was a different era, still. We look for things we want. It didn't matter to me that she was younger or older than me. My only criteria was no children. It was a personal choice, nothing against women with children I just felt that one major life adjustment at a time was enough.

[Doll]

If you knew me better, you wouldn't ask such stupid questions. I normally act irrationally and get lot of dull products in my basket. I do speak about dating 

STUPID is a very loaded word but it's OK

[XMan]

Everyone has their own viewpoint and desires, and I'm not trying to change that, nor am I trying to judge it. 

I do strongly believe that if one is going all out to find the best match, that is what one wants to achieve. 
In the USA, Ukraine, Belarus, Fiji, Greenland, or wherever else. 

I think most folks (men and women) look at the entire package, not just appearance. 
I met one "backup" woman (one I had not corresponded with) who was so sweet, demure, and genuine that it made her far, far more attractive than her physical appearance.  Unfortunately we had very few common interests.  But meeting her was a pleasure.  Based upon that, while I do recommend writing women that one finds interesting (for whatever reasons one has), being open to meeting other women can result in a surprising pleasant time.  One never knows what might happen.   

Gator, unfortunately I had the IDENTICAL experience. 
It happens. 

[RussianWind]

STUPID is a very loaded word but it's OK

I was pretty sure you wouldn't take it personally, you look more relaxed than most forumers here 

I also want to answer that gentleman who kindly send me a PM, supposing that I don't understand who is involved in the FSU searching.

I decided not to answer you privately as I can be furious at times and can't predict the effect of
my message - will you kill me, yourself or your wife. Afterall I am not resonsible that you didn't read my signature 

Of course I do not bother of some individuals, it is obvious you didn't understand the idea of the discussion started by me. I am speaking of a general tendency. Why do you think I want to put myself with a overweight, unattractive, inactive, post andropausal 54 year old grandfather?  :zappedhim:

[Shadow]

Of course I do not bother of some individuals, it is obvious you didn't understand the idea of the discussion started by me. I am speaking of a general tendency. Why do you think I want to put myself with a overweight, unattractive, inactive, post andropausal 54 year old grandfather?  :zappedhim:

You will.... when you are between 50 and 54 

[Bitter-Sweet]

They are not but they do not look.

They do not look, but sometimes they just find. 

My boy 3 years older than me, but he wasn't looking for anybody online.

IMHO, when a young girl looks for a man who is... let's say 20 years older than her, she doesn't really seem to be sincere.

[Doll]

I was pretty sure you wouldn't take it personally, you look more relaxed than most forumers here   

I did not. Just kidding. I understand you.

[RussianWind]

You will.... when you are between 50 and 54 

Yep. But this is another story. And stilll... he will be the same age like me 

[docetae]

And a 50 years old man who is looking for a hot 20 something and say that he is looking to build a family is not very sincere too..
so relation is build on the same foundation: Hypocrisy...