Married and Divorced in 6 Years

[remiel6]

I agree with Groov here. I think that a lie detector test might be a bit extreme  There is nothing that you need to find out that you shouldn't be able to find out with careful examination.
IMHO, I avoid women who I think suffer from the keeping up with the man across the street syndrome. It is not that they are "bad" people, its just that I don't personally believe they can ever be satisfied and I've no desire to spend my life feeling like a failure because the new car I bought the misses needs to be replaced with another new car because the neighbors is fancier than hers is. I don't like people like this so I've developed a sort of scent for them and run aways as fast as I can.
my personal rule of thumb, if I think my significant other is more interested in her standard of living than she is in spending time with and loving me, there's the door don't let it hit you on the way out.

[Faux Pas]

How about adding a squirt of Sodium Pentothal, while you're at it ? KGB/CIA say it's much more reliable than any polygraph .

But if you're more traditionally minded, this could be your instrument of choice:

Actually my first reaction to that was why not just send her down to Guantanamo Bay and have her water boarded a few times

[dobradavid]

How about adding a squirt of Sodium Pentothal, while you're at it ? KGB/CIA say it's much more reliable than any polygraph .

But if you're more traditionally minded, this could be your instrument of choice:

Great graphics! LOL! 

[dobradavid]

I'm repeatedly flummoxed by some of the courtship strategies I see in this forum. If you want to hire a wife, put together a nice benefits package, decent salary, and post an ad on Craigslist.

As for FSU women being more status conscious and wanting to keep up with the Joneses... Yes, it's pretty accurate in general, but that doesn't mean you have to resign yourself to a life with a pretty girl who wants you to run on a treadmill all day to improve her living standard. This behavior isn't going to disappear when she leaves her country so do the smart thing and look elsewhere.

Nicely put. 

[pitbull]

You should pay attention to conversations and her reactions to them? Pay attention to her attention to you , closeness and physical relationship. I would treat discussions, as if you were interviewing an employee?
I would see the types of friends she has and the behavior of herself with them.

Contact a Detective Agency having an office in her country and have them investigate her background. I suppose that a Polygraph Examination by a seasoned Polygraph
Examiner would be able to elicit good information about her. I would have him ascertain information about her Charecter, Values and Thoughts of the prospective fiancee.  
YES, Polygraph Instruments do work well when done by a well trained and experienced Examiner in her language.

Bostonianindixie,

I think your wife had perfectly valid reasons to divorce you, which have nothing to do with her mother. Reread Groov's post. 

[bostonianindixie]

Hello Everyone:

I surely offended and confused some individuals on my listing on interviewing a FSU woman, should have put it in a different format. My point was for the gentleman to pay attention to the prospective fiance in her communications, attentiveness to you, unnatural extreme closeness to her Mother. I would also pay strict attention how she reacts to her family and extended family. Having a detective in the Ukraine or Russia complete a complete background check could assist in understanding her Character (trustworthiness, responsibility, respect, caring, fairness and citizenship).

I only mentioned an interview with a Psychophysiologist, for those individuals who have much to lose (outside the shame and heart / gut wrenching divorce. These are things to ponder and tools to utilize, if one chooses too. I personally would not need to polygraph, as I am a trained and educated professional on interviewing, interrogation and a Psychophysiology. There are some good guides on interviewing from John E. Reid & Associates out of Chicago, Illinois (http://www.reid.com/store2/index.html).

The individuals who were mentioning torture, water boarding or utilizing medieval ways of eliciting information was a little entertaining, but could confuse the average person. The interviewing method or even Polygraph instrument is not painful and is not torture. The truth serum idea was extremely funny, but again not leading people in the correct direction.

There was one personal attack on my character and blaming me for my divorce and not my former mother in law. I think personal attacks are not neccessary or professional and kindly request that we respond professionally and with respect.I try to live by this rule, as we all have our different backgrounds, education and experiences that make us what we are today.

Thank you,

Stephen

[pitbull]

There was one personal attack on my character and blaming me for my divorce and not my former mother in law. I think personal attacks are not neccessary or professional and kindly request that we respond professionally and with respect.
Thank you,

Stephen

Stephe,

Strictly professionally, do you see any fault of yours in your divorce? Or do you believe your ex wife and MIL are 100% responsible for it and you did everything 100% right?

[bostonianindixie]

Hello Everyone and Pitbull:

She wanted the divorce and I did not see it coming, as my reaction was shock, nausea and then anger. We had a wonderful marriage, until her mother came over the second time and then did not leave. I did everything for them both, taught them english, how to drive a vehicle, helped and supported my wife in passing several medical exams and three tough years of residency. My former wife did not work while she prepared to become an American Doctor. It was me who pushed her, as many people advised that it is too tough and that American Medicine was too advanced for Doctor's from the former USSR. We had little misunderstandings or arguments, but her Mother did interfere too much in our family. The end was that I was (as one put it) a third wheel and was no longer needed (already filled their needs).

I am sure that there were issues with me, but still we were both happy with our family. She had this very unhealthy relationship with her Mother and several members of my family and friends pointed this out.

Wishing everyone well!!

Stephen

[dukemaxwell]

sorry to hear that............but she had it planned.......1st mistake she was too old when you met her....has to be under 24........2nd mistake she was too smart.......smart woman are not happy at all.......3rd mistake you gave her too much..........4th mistake you moved her mother in........5th mistake you moved out of you house.......... you need a dumb country girl that wants a family and don't spoil her, what were you thinking. if a slow person drops an ice cream cone they laugh and get another one......if a smart person drops an ice cream cone they get upset and say it's a metaphor for their life that things always slip through their hands.....remember dumb=happy+fun.......smart=depressed+sneaky

[bostonianindixie]

Hi Duke, very good advise and will follow it the next time. My problem, I seem to attract very intelligent women and vice versa. I hope to find a woman from a farm or village, as I now live in a small town in North Carolina. I lived in cities all of my life and like it where I am now in the country with much land and quite inexpensive to live.

I am in my mid forties, so what age would suite me best? I would like to have one more child, so I guess that lowers my options. I also want to minimize my chances for another heart breaking divorce.

I am more than open to your advise on this...

Stepan

[Boethius]

Why restrict yourself to Ukraine?  Why not do what Saudis do?  Buy a young girl, say 7 or so, for 5,000 goats.  Install her in your home.  She can cook and clean.  No need to send her to school.  That way, she pays for her keep.  Then, when she starts menstruating, voilą - instant wife.

[dukemaxwell]

Hi, 
As far as age goes for you....who knows. I say any girl over 24 that hasn't been married before has something wrong downstairs......ie.smell bad. Any girl can get a man, so if they don't, something is wrong. think about it. You don't buy a new car that has been sitting in the lot for 4 years. there's something wrong with it. I'm 34, so for me I really want to go 20-22. Say your 45 I would say maybe 24-26. Never over 30. Too beat up by life by then. 25 is ideal age for having kids.

PRE-NUP! not just money but custody too. Do not even think about getting married unless you have it. Not ever! Never!!!!!!!!

Business is business so I want a b c, and the girl wants d e f. Work it out and sign a deal.

If your as smart as you say you are, then you can act like your dumb and go undercover around the girls. Just cause your car can go 200 mph doesn't mean you drive that fast all the time. Down play yourself and your smarts. I always stay undercover.......weeds them out fast. No nurses, bartenders, teachers, or psych majors and of course no strippers. All have been proven A+ crazy! No smokers unless you want to have unprotected sex. For some reason, smokers are always unsafe. Oh and girls that drink beer are no good. They want to be like one of the guys. Girls with more guy friends then girlfriends.. Big red flag! Girls with no dad's growing up............no good. I'm sure the list will grow. LOL


Good luck.

[remiel6]

Duke, with all due respect, you're insane. I don't know how to say anymore than that. You can't possibly be serious. Under 24 something wrong? and the list you have included takes in almost every single woman on the planet. So have fun dating nuns in the convent because thats all thats left, oops they drink wine during ceremonies. So well there might be a girl somewhere on the planet that fits that criteria but I make no guarantees that she's human

[Gator]

you need a dumb country girl that wants a family

Only a dumb man would be happy with a dumb woman.  I hope you don't have children.

[Gtex]

Although we often specialize here in rude, stupid and presumptuous types; you really are special.  It is a real talent to be as offensive as you have achieved in this short space.  Please continue to enlighten us, the comic relief is valuable (at the moment).
I suggest your comments about progeny shall lead to Shaws' dilemma.  That kid may have her brain and your looks...

[Zhena]

Only a dumb man would be happy with a dumb woman.  I hope you don't have children.

[Zhena]

As far as age goes for you....who knows. I say any girl over 24 that hasn't been married before has something wrong downstairs......ie.smell bad. Any girl can get a man, so if they don't, something is wrong. think about it. You don't buy a new car that has been sitting in the lot for 4 years. there's something wrong with it. I'm 34, so for me I really want to go 20-22. Say your 45 I would say maybe 24-26. Never over 30. Too beat up by life by then. 25 is ideal age for having kids.

:brightidea:
Let me guess....either insane or....a muslim.

[Ade]

Only a dumb man would be happy with a dumb woman.  I hope you don't have children.

This guy can't be serious. He's taking the piss, surely.

Oh well, I laughed anyway.

[groovlstk]

Down play yourself and your smarts. I always stay undercover.......weeds them out fast.

So far, you're doing an outstanding job of downplaying your smarts.

[dukemaxwell]

Ha ha your guys are all dorks!!!!!!!!!!!!!! None of you look like you have been married for more then a year or so. What do you know? Let alone know anything about women! LOL!
I'm trying to help Stephen out so he does not have a problems again. Haven't heard anything from you geeks. ha ha LOL!
Everything I say is 100% true and tested. If you fail to accept it, then that means your girl fits in the crazy scope! ha ha LOL! Girls are all the same. Very easy to read. You guys are just suckers! You will be divorced in 4 years!
Once again I note that I am sharing what I've witnessed, observed, and lived through. Anyone taking it personal, shows that they must fall in the crazy scope. And wait a second......what happened to Stephen is a terrible and heartbreaking ordeal. Why would you side with the gold diggers? Sounds to me like some of you are pu**y whooped and should stay far away from this forum. Why are you worried what I say?

[dukemaxwell]

oh and yes I'm serious.............I have older friends some that helped develop spy satellites back in the 60's. Very smart! Super super smart. But boring, depressed, and stressed!
I have some friends that are below average but have fun, enjoy life, and are never stressed! hmmmmmmmmm where do you fit in? just wondering?

[ScottinCrimea]

Good Lord!  What a loser!

[Ade]

oh and yes I'm serious.............I have older friends some that helped develop spy satellites back in the 60's. Very smart! Super super smart. But boring, depressed, and stressed!
I have some friends that are below average but have fun, enjoy life, and are never stressed! hmmmmmmmmm where do you fit in? just wondering?

Well, if you are serious, you are also seriously delusional. For one thing, I worked for a better part of a decade in an organisation which has as many noble prize winners per sq metre as anywhere in the world and I can assure you that the majority are pretty happy people. So am I for that matter, not to mention my wife, who is one of the most happy and effervescent people I've had the pleasure to be with and both of us are a considerably long way from being dumb.

And then there's all that other silly stuff you spouted. Seriously, you are so far out of your tree you can't even see it any more.

But the good news is that you really did make me laugh out loud.

[acrzybear]

Good Lord!  What a loser!

Troll

[Ludmila]

Duke, bravo!

You are a thing!
Listen, have you ever heard that sex with a mentally deprived is the best sex ever? Seriously. I read something about it somewhere. How about that, a? Total relaxation...... ! And if she behaves well, you can give her some food, too!