Real and unreal man. Maybe I'm wrong?

[Rina_G]

Hi!
I told you many times about the actual relations and real man, whom I would like to have my own life.
I guess, that we not only live in different ends of the Earth, we have different views on the same things.
I want to explain to you what I think as a real man and what I think unrealistic man.
A real man:
1. daily deals on-line with woman
2. warns her that he will not be a few days on-line
3. leaves the offline message if the changed circumstances of
4. calls or sends SMS every day to say good morning or good nights
5. calls every day, when he cannot speak on-line
6. is planning a real meeting in the next 2-3 months
7. Sends small sights of interest -flowers, toys.

Unrealistic man:
1. writes only when you both online
2. waiting for weeks, when you both on-line
3. not looking for ways to find out why a woman is not online
4. promises to come when will solve all problems
5. finds every day new and emerging issues which are delaying trip
6. disappears without explanation for several days/weeks
7. After several days/weeks and explains how he enjoying without you.

Now you can understand why I doubt the reality of our relations.
We communicate two months and during this time we do not realise we to real relationships.
Thanks, that someone has just read the letter before the end of
Rina
 
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Maybe I'm wrong? Really?
Please without tears :ohbrother:

[SMS60]

Rina_G

You are on the right road. Your list is vague but shows you are looking for the right signs. You grasp what is real and fake.

Its all about interest level. When you are very interested in forming a relationship your actions are different than those who are not.

People make the mistakes of not being able to distinguish what is genuine and what is not. This is when they get in trouble and get burned.

Keep your head on straight

[BC]

Rina,

Always remember....

Until you meet, a penpal is a penpal, nothing more.

If it isn't fun writing to one penpal, find another.

[Jumper]

Rina,  you are not wrong,.


we had a movie out here recently,,  a comedy
"He's just not that into you"
It basically was a funny look at the things ,or signs, of when a man was not actually "into" the women,
 he was dating or communicating with.

At it basics, if a man is seriously interested , you will know ,because he will act accordingly .
and there will be no strange excuses.

[Rina_G]

Hi guys!
thank you all it was very important for me cause this letter was last which I could say.
I was trying to explane before many times and didn't understand why my words are so heave for understanding.
One save me always - Isee calwendar and can count days and wait realy acts.
probably - next time
I was kissing one frog also
thanks  

[BillyB]

A real man:
1. daily deals on-line with woman
2. warns her that he will not be a few days on-line
3. leaves the offline message if the changed circumstances of
4. calls or sends SMS every day to say good morning or good nights
5. calls every day, when he cannot speak on-line
6. is planning a real meeting in the next 2-3 months
7. Sends small sights of interest -flowers, toys.

Unrealistic man:
1. writes only when you both online
2. waiting for weeks, when you both on-line
3. not looking for ways to find out why a woman is not online
4. promises to come when will solve all problems
5. finds every day new and emerging issues which are delaying trip
6. disappears without explanation for several days/weeks
7. After several days/weeks and explains how he enjoying without you.

Now you can understand why I doubt the reality of our relations.
We communicate two months and during this time we do not realise we to real relationships.
Thanks, that someone has just read the letter before the end of
Rina

Thanks for your observations Rina but us men have it tough too on those online instant message dating sites. You ladies will leave the computer without saying goodbye. Some of you ladies have so much attention you only write short sentences and ask no question of us men. One day we're your favortite guy to talk to, two days later you ignore us. Some of you ask for money or gifts. Some of you give us your phone number but it's not your number and we call a guy who has no idea who you are. I got a lot more stories.

Don't rely on those instant message sites alone where men and women have thousands to talk to and choose from instantly. Sometimes with that many choices, we don't end up choosing anything. Sign up on other dating sites such as bride.ru and even marraige agencies. If you like a guy, tell him you would like to hear his voice. Get him excited. Give him some attention and he may grow fond of you more than the bikini model who ignores him half the time.

Don't be discouraged. Both men and women jockey for position to find their favorite. It's normal. You get dumped and you dump men too. Here's one example of a woman I'm talking to that started out fanastic but stalled and going South fast.

The RW lives in China. She's nearly 6ft tall and taller than me. She shows great interest in me(got the hots for me) but she wants her man to live with her in China. She tells me she still loves another man from the past. I told her I'm not moving to China and I don't want to get involved with a woman who has feelings for another man. She's beautiful and  I ask for more photos although she told me the ones on her profile are real. Writing decent English, she writes this to me this morning:


"no photos, come and see me, i don't want anything from you. i talked you about anothere person just as an example, that's all, no exchange come and invite me to a cafe, present me beautiful flowers and i swear i will forget about all men of the world )))))"

She is not going to be happy with my reply. If she wants me, she has to remove ALL the barriers she put up. She mentiond she will forget about the other man but she's not giving me more photos or saying she's willing to live in America. My guess is that we won't end up together.

[Rina_G]

ti BillyB
thanks for your opinion
your words about women I can relate to men too. it isn't big problem. i just say myself - pass away and do it without offend.
about dating sites. I wanted to talk about it before when I saw your diccussion about it in forum.
do you know than the most site don't put profile women after 40 y.o.?
my profile on rudate didn't put
on EM - too
on Cut only - too
I prefer to have quality, not quantity.
I was looking for very intensive last year. and results was less than now.
I don't want to weiste time.
if it's destiny - it isn't problem to stay in Russia
I'm looking for man but not country.
thanks everybody

[BillyB]

do you know than the most site don't put profile women after 40 y.o.?

I know some sites don't put older women up front on their pages. Sometimes if they do allow older women, they could only be found by a search. It's a fact most men target younger women and businesses tend to cater to what the market demands. Women tend to be more beautiful when they are younger than when they get old. An older women tend to have more brains than the younger ladies but first she has to get a man to take some time to notice her brains.

I'm 39 and I've noticed lots of the women who write me first are older than I. They too want something younger to play with)))) They also have to be more aggressive to find a man compared to the younger ladies. Maybe you too should make first contact with men instead of waiting for them to come to you. Give him some attention and maybe he will give you attention back. One of the local RW ladies I'm dating is older than me. She treats me, in many ways I like, better than the younger RW I'm dating.

[Rina_G]

 :ROFL:thanks BillyB
you really make me laugh

Russians say I was teaching where you were learning - lol

It I were waiting when men will write me I were a real hundred years old.
I'm totaly seriously now.
I was writing wery diferent presentations, I was putting very diferent pics but result was one - null
I always write at first and don't think that it's bad.
I give many advices for women on russian forums and they are more successfull than me
Everything will be in their time.

P.S. I never write man younger me
P.S. 2 I'm finishing real big book about ACTIVE searching for man in Internet.
thanks again BillyB
     

[vwrw]

do you know than the most site don't put profile women after 40 y.o.?
my profile on rudate didn't put
on EM - too
on Cut only - too
I prefer to have quality, not quantity.

I am not sure, whether I understood you Rina. Did you ask whether we know that most sites do not publish  profiles of those women who are older than 40 years?
Or did you say that you prefer to not publish you profile on most of dating sites because you prefer having quality communication with men over having many men with whom you can communicate?

[Rina_G]

lets I'll explane my opinion
I don't like to be on many sites in one time.
It don't give anything good.
and so in one time I am in 5-7 sites.
but it was truth about old age.
it's one good news - there are many dating sites in Internet
not all of then are alive.
I made analitic work about it
I looked searching as business process including constant sequence
have you any questions also?
I'm ready to reply

[vwrw]

Rine, maybe you should consider publishing your profile on EM. They do not discriminate against women of any age. Right now, EM has approximately 2300 profiles of women who are over 40 y.o. and of those, 600 profiles pertain to women who are over 50 y.o.

[Rina_G]

thanks for your advice
my experience sitting on EM was totaly unsuccessful
I have no any died site for me
beleive i was really active - I sent there above four hundred letters and get 15 standarts refuses and five letter with refuse and two men - one anerican imppotent and one england Romeo
I don't know so died site for me and I was wonder very much that men think EM as good site
may be old women are sitting there and young girls get men
lol

[NJ]

I don't like EM either.
1) about 50% of profiles of guys I view on the right side of the screen are taken\out of contact\last visit 30+ days
2) when I try to send a message to guys it seems that 70% don't see it (they don't open it and don't delete it, but they are on the site within time), so it has UNREAD status for long
3) it really confuses me too, but the number of EOIs is SO SMALL (lucky day to get over 2 or 3 from guys that mostly don't match my criteria)

Rina, try Russianeuro. I like it much more. Many players, but the choice seems better.

 

[Daveman]

...They also have to be more aggressive ... Give him some attention and maybe he will give you attention back. ...

Yeah, I actually like RussianWind's aggressive approach of tying them up  :evil:   Sounds like the opportunity for some serious attention 


Rina, yeah, if the guy is having the kind of behavior you indicate in the second list, he's just not really what you're looking for.  It's a crazy game sometimes for sure. 

[RussianWind]

Yeah, I actually like RussianWind's aggressive approach of tying them up  :evil:   Sounds like the opportunity for some serious attention 

Do you mean my bikini photos?
I changed my mind. Gentlemen, could you please return them back. Thank you.

[Rina_G]

Rine, maybe you should consider publishing your profile on EM. They do not discriminate against women of any age. Right now, EM has approximately 2300 profiles of women who are over 40 y.o. and of those, 600 profiles pertain to women who are over 50 y.o.

totaly agree
it was the same with mr there
and also I couldn't delete my profile from and delete last pic
absolutely trouble!

[BC]

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[Sculpto]

You ladies

God that is an insulting way to address someone.  I am insulted and I think any lady reading ought to be also.

Rina dear.. that should be another kind of warning for what to watch out for.

[Sculpto]

Ladies..

Try mamba.. right now the numbers of foreign men are still pretty low.. puts you in an advantageous position.  You can change your location to try and attract messages from people in different places. 

disclaimer.. I have heard from some ladies that they get a lot of inappropriate messages on mamba from certain categories of men..

You might consider facebook also.  There is a Russian interface available and while it is not specifically a dating site there are ample opportunities to establish communication.  Example.. I was invited to join a group of people interested in historical vintage photographs of Odessa.  If I desired to do so there are TONS of very attractive ladies in that group that I could send a message to and who knows where that could lead.

There are other social networking sites that have promise.  Look around and try social networking that does not emphasize dating.  You might be surprised how much easier it is to find people worth communicating with.

[BillyB]

God that is an insulting way to address someone.  that should be another kind of warning for what to watch out for.

Just classify me in with morally bankrupt and criminally insane men. I'm real dangerous

You can change your location to try and attract messages from people in different places.  

Beware of the men who lies on his profile so he can get into your pants. Exactly how many profiles you got in various cities 2012isfiction? Any luck?

[JR]

Do you mean my bikini photos?
I changed my mind. Gentlemen, could you please return them back. Thank you.

Hehe, the ones I have don't have a bikini so I'm not giving them back  :evil:

[apple47]

  Rina,I don't have any experience with the dating sites most others here seem to know about.  I can only relate my experience.  I met/found my wife on  friendfinder.com   .   They have a reverse search that ,for me, was useful.  Maybe it would be something you could use as well.   Can't hurt to check it out.

   

                                                      ...Larry

[Rina_G]

thanks Larry
I didn't know about this site before
I'll look on it
Rina
I was trying to register ther but I can't do it.
they write me - "unstable adress". 
all my adresses are unstable - even yahoo.com
what is it?

[Mars]

thanks Larry
I didn't know about this site before
I'll look on it
Rina
I was trying to register ther but I can't do it.
they write me - "unstable adress". 
all my adresses are unstable - even yahoo.com
what is it?

Rina, many dating sites reject profiles from FSU people because of the high incidence of scammers.

FF used to allow FSU people, but that was several years ago.
MatchDoctor used to have a lot of FSU people also, but they were banned a couple of years back.