Tatiana from Nikolaev

[antknee97]

it’s me again...the fact is I’m planning to go meet this person and I would like not to waste my time...the person I have been talking too seems to be the same because all the conversation are from the same person...my plan is if she’s not for real I will see someone else while I’m there...I get the fact that I think the agencies are using their ids plus I get there getting something on the back end also...the girls that are from the agencies are getting money to talk to people ...but there are girls who do want to meet someone...I do have the personal information of my Tatiana and plan on asking her about these things...I’ve been to Nikolayev and Odessa so you need to be carful... plus they only gotten meals out of me...i haven’t sent money and do have some strange propositions from some woman their…I did have woman fight of my time when I was there and do feel  they use what they can to make money and get dinner…in my case my only issue is she claims not to have a cam…strange when the agencies supply that…I would still like some photos from the guy who gave his Tatiana money…it my feeling my Tatiana is serious so I will let you know by the end of august…if not another vacation and keep looking…

[facetrock]

 I assure you she has a cam. Have you talked to her on the phone? For a guy who's already been there and dealt with cam girls before why on earth would you want to do it again?
  Dude come on already. I don't get it.
  Many free sites and pay by the month sites that would be far cheaper than paying for video streaming. A lot less chance of being scammed too.

[ML]

Western Union requires a name with internal passport so unless I'm missing something how could a guy send money to anyone without a name?

What about the 'Who's on first base routine?"

Man is instructed to send money to 'Me.'
He does.

Someone shows up at WU to get money.

Agent, who is to receive the money?

Person:  Me

Agent, do  you have identification.

Person, yes, here is my ID.

Agent, this says you are (put in any name)

Person, Yes, that is me.

Person, The  money says to pay to 'Me.'

And my ID correctly describes and identifies me.

The money cannot go to anyone else other than me.

And I am here.

Agent,  now you are saying that you are "I."

Yes, I am, it is me.

. . .  Ad infinitum . . .

[jone]

Antknee,

We can tell you in a heartbeat if she is likely to be a scammer.  Why don't you tell us what site she is on and how you met her?  Even if it is not the same Tatiana that was talked about in 2010, there are still many Tatianas out there who are scammers. 

There is a right way to go about asking for the forum's help and a way that will get you no where.  The right way is simply to identify the site or agency that you met the woman on.   It is simple as that.

Jone

[mendeleyev]

That was the point I was trying to make, Mendy, although very poorly.  The names that the guy has been sending the money to are the TRUE scammers.  They are the ones whose pockets are now filled with cash.

Jone, like you I'm understanding a little more now. I'm guessing that the lady really doesn't exist except in photos and the "names" he's sending money to are likely guys. As for the girl, she is probably living her normal life with not a clue that someone is sending "her" money.

[CDW]

She always seems to have the sick grandmother who needs medications and doctors.

Even if it is true, why do you need to find a lady who has a sick grandmother?  She will not come to you to your country, because she will be at home, looking after her sick grandmother.

That's the case if she isn't a scammer.......

[jone]

Absent better information from Antknee, I have to assume he doesn't really want any help in this situation.  If he did - and she chooses not to communicate directly with him - then we would tell you that there is a great (double great) probability that she is a scammer or pro-dater who doesn't really want a relationship.
 
The reality is that we have all been there.  If this gal is real, then there are plenty of ways to confirm her existence and commitment.   Heck, I'll meet her in the center of Nikolaev, with my girlfriend, if you choose to and verify her particulars.  (There's a McDonalds right next to the Fleet memorial - everyone knows it.  Great food.  You should try it.    )

I used to believe that there was a modicom of chance that a gal I was talking to, who wouldn't or couldn't take the next step with me, was really in to me.  The reality is that she isn't or wasn't.  If she doesn't give you an email or a skype address - move on.

If you are using a PPL site, there are three easy tests to check if the woman is real.  There are also guidelines to follow to limit your exposure to scammers.

The biggest cost, to anyone in this endeavor, who is really serious, is time.   Not money.  Don't waste your time on someone that you have NO chance of ever winding up with.  It is hurtful to you and will, in the end, prevent you from ever finding someone to share your life with.

Here's a quick pik of my sweetheart who I will spend the summer with in Niko.  Hopefully we'll spend much more than the summer together.

P.S.  This picture was taken off of Skype.

[ML]

Quite ethnic looking . . . but I don't know which.

[Stirlitz]

it’s me again...the fact is I’m planning to go meet this person and I would like not to waste my time...

Anyone who uses agencies where you have to pay for letters is wasting their time, or at least there is a 90% chance of that. In my books.
 

I was gonna look her up for you as I will be in Niko all summer long.    You know - Nikolaev.  Don't trust the women there!  They're ALL scammers!  But if anyone's in the area, send me a PM.  Be happy to hook up for a cold one.

Duh... you are damn right Yes, ABSOLUTELY ALL, starting from little girsl and up to grannies.

[Patagonie]

100 % SCAM.

See Jone to know how you can deal with him.

[Hammer2722]

Anyone who uses agencies where you have to pay for letters is wasting their time, or at least there is a 90% chance of that. In my books.
 Duh... you are damn right Yes, ABSOLUTELY ALL, starting from little girsl and up to grannies.

I believe that Jone was being sarcastic when he made this comment. 

[Voyager36]

I would still like some photos from the guy who gave his Tatiana money…it my feeling my Tatiana is serious so I will let you know by the end of august…if not another vacation and keep looking…

He hasn't been around for a couple of years so don't hold your breath.

[jone]

Stirlitz,

I met my woman, in Nikolaev, through ADate.  (Yes, while I was being sarcastic in the post, there are ways around ADate's ability to separate suckers from their money.  Anyone silly enough to use the PPL sites - like me - better get an education quickly before putting more than a dollar into a letter being sent to Eastern Europe.)

ML,

She is all Russian.  Her mother's family is from Kaliningrad and her father's is from Sakhalin Island.  Both families moved to Ukraine to escape the weather.  LOL.

Antknee,

Not willing to take me up on my offer, huh?  Then I would suggest you not pursue this woman.  You have kindly offers from many of the men and women on this forum that will give you good counsel.  Some men just don't want to know the particulars about the woman that they are dating (some women too).  They would rather live with the illusion  But this forum is littered with the corpses of many wanna be relationships that were the coming together of a man who believed he knew his woman and a woman who believed in the man's wallet.  The woman won.