Creative dating overseas

[alex330]

I was wondering of anyone had any experience with setting up creative dates out of the country? I have never been a "dinner and a movie" type of guy and was wondering how you went about setting up a great date in the ladies hometown. Online it can be hard to get ideas and most are touristy. Here in my hometown I would grab some to-go sushi and head down to the a park on beach and eat under the moonlight. In San Jose, there is a great monastary that has been converted into a restaurant overlooking the city. Very Romantic. I guess scout out the area a day in advance?  Any help is appreciated.

[Shadow]

Through the internet you can find information on her city.
Next do make some plans, but be ready to accept suggestions from the lady.
Not only will you manage to find out what she likes, and if that is close to your own, but also it may give you some surprises and get to know more about Russian culture and people.

[Seeker]

Through the internet you can find information on her city.

Google Earth is a great source.  I have surprised my friend with pictures and videos of the city she lives in.  Places I have seen her pictured in.  We even joke about some of the things we find in each others countries.  I even found a really nice canyon for hiking north of her city that she wants to go to after seeing it. 

[alex330]

Yea, thinking I would make some preliminary plans and being open to anything at all. She mentioned the both of us going shopping. Food shopping that is 
Normally that would not seem very exciting, but in a foreign country and neither of us speaking much of each others language could be quite an adventure.
Grab a bottle of wine and go back and cook a meal together.

[Kuna]

Google Earth is a great idea. 

Keep in mind whatever you plan should be something that your lady would enjoy, not just you.  If you understand her well enough and plan something around her interests you will undoubtedly sweep her off her feet...  but if you drop a clanger she'll think you're nuts! 

[Gator]

Yea, thinking I would make some preliminary plans and being open to anything at all. She mentioned the both of us going shopping. Food shopping that is  
Normally that would not seem very exciting, but in a foreign country and neither of us speaking much of each others language could be quite an adventure.
Grab a bottle of wine and go back and cook a meal together.

I second the thought that she will have many ideas. So talk. Most RW want to show you their city, and they make excellent guides if you are not distracted by her beauty.

Food shopping and cooking make for an interesting date because usually RW just want to meet for tea and cake if you are on a WMVM.  And if a second date, they would enjoy going to a restaurant.

This woman must fancy herself as a good cook.  If you enjoy cooking, it would be fun to share the experience.  If you cook, be sure to bring your special spices as it is difficult to find them in the FSU.  


Not a small percentage of  RW like semi-sweet wine, so be prepared.

[I/O]

What's wrong with MD's, cheap wine and and a knee trembler in the park?

[JR]

It's not so much the location as the person.  Get to know her preferences, tastes, little things that make her happy then make the date a collage of those things. Usually works out well. I'm not talking about big things. Little things like wearing her favorite color. If she likes chocloates I may find her favorite, get several and slip them to her throught out the date. Find an excuse to slip away for a moment and come back with flowers....just don't take a photo

[alex330]

What's wrong with MD's, cheap wine and and a knee trembler in the park?

Nothing wrong with sitting in the park with some wine. As someone who has never experienced Spring I was actually looking forward to that this trip. 

Find an excuse to slip away for a moment and come back with flowers....just don't take a photo

Just as long as there are no Teddy bears involved

[Gator]

What's wrong with MD's, cheap wine and and a knee trembler in the park?

Nothing is wrong except the cheap wine.  Life is too short to drink cheap wine.

[JR]

  Life is too short to drink cheap wine.

Alex is young, give him a few years and he'll figure it out

[Shadow]

Alex is young, give him a few years and he'll figure it out

Some people figure out that its not the price that makes wine good. 

[Faux Pas]

FWIW I have roughly 60 bottles in my wine selection this minute. None of those bottles cost more than 20 bucks in fact most are under 10 bucks and all are very good wines. I actually pride myself on drinking excellent wine under $10. It is somewhat a hobby of mine and I am proof that it can be done. The FSU has a plethora of fine "low cost" wines. I can only tell by taste as I cannot read the bottles and every purchase was a shot in the dark but I have tasted many excellent wines in Russia. I bring several back on every trip. Several of my friends also share my interest in wine and I usually give them as gifts and they are very appreciated. The fact that the labels are in cyrillic and the wine is excellent baffles the pooh out of them.

[SANDRO43]

I actually pride myself on drinking excellent wine under $10.

I can get some very decent wine in our supermarkets at €3/bottle, or less .

[I/O]

no Teddy bears involved

"Teddies" are fine, 'specially on the floor beside the bed.

[Gator]

Calm down guys!   The "life is too short" expression is a metaphor about life, an allegory if you wish.  Don’t take it literally or personally. 

Try an experiment.  One day please buy a Silver Oak or Cakebread cab (maybe even a Dominus Estate cab if you can afford it).  Prepare a delicious light meal.  Sit with a good friend, someone who smells the roses.  Open the bottle and let it breathe.  Pour a glass (a good glass I trust).  Also pour a glass of your favorite cheap wine.  Behold!  Jot down some notes!  Discuss!  Ponder! 

Then think about how this applies to life.

Do I drink Silver Oak as a table wine?  No, especially considering that my wife drinks a bottle a day?  Most of our wine purchases are in the just  under $10 category, which I consider cheap.  I normally drink inexpensive wines (about $20), yet I drink in moderation.  On special occasions, I spend $100. 

Your first meeting with the woman with whom you have corresponded for months...... and who has the potential to be your wife….that’s a special occasion. 

Bring the bottle with you from home.  And hopefully the whole scene is not ruined by the fact she prefers sweet wines.   Maybe her eyes will grow big....

[I/O]

Gator: Cut to the chase man, you are way overcomplicating this thing. It's basically about getting her half cut and horizontal (ask any guy on the prowel who'll speak honestly). This whole romance and dating thing is overrated. Keep it simple and cheap wine will do that just fine. When I say cheap, I'm not talking ghetto handbags BTW.

[UTRO]

Some people figure out that its not the price that makes wine good. 

Yes Shadow, I concur with you. Cheap wine is just as effective as Expensive wine is..... as a 'Pantie Remover' 

[Faux Pas]

I can get some very decent wine in our supermarkets at €3/bottle, or less .

For me a rare find is a decent wine under 6 bucks a bottle although they do happen on occasion. The challenge, and it is very doable is finding very good wines under $10. It's just a hobby I started getting into a number of years ago. I find it amazing at the quality lesser known vineyards can produce.

Calm down guys!   The "life is too short" expression is a metaphor about life, an allegory if you wish.  Don’t take it literally or personally. 

Try an experiment.  One day please buy a Silver Oak or Cakebread cab (maybe even a Dominus Estate cab if you can afford it).  Prepare a delicious light meal.  Sit with a good friend, someone who smells the roses.  Open the bottle and let it breathe.  Pour a glass (a good glass I trust).  Also pour a glass of your favorite cheap wine.  Behold!  Jot down some notes!  Discuss!  Ponder! 

Then think about how this applies to life.

Agreed. I do enjoy some of the more expensive and finer wines on occasion. I am not opposed to opening a bottle for special occasions or just for the hell of it and the experience. Many times and I am disappointed with expensive wines and many times not. The true enthusiast I suppose never takes price into consideration but thats just an aspect I enjoy. Beating the establishment I suppose. Silver Oak and Cakebread are some I enjoy quite often.

[UTRO]

For me a rare find is a decent wine under 6 bucks a bottle although they do happen on occasion. The challenge, and it is very doable is finding very good wines under $10. It's just a hobby I started getting into a number of years ago. I find it amazing at the quality lesser known vineyards can produce.
 

Agreed. I do enjoy some of the more expensive and finer wines on occasion. I am not opposed to opening a bottle for special occasions or just for the hell of it and the experience. Many times and I am disappointed with expensive wines and many times not. The true enthusiast I suppose never takes price into consideration but thats just an aspect I enjoy. Beating the establishment I suppose. Silver Oak and Cakebread are some I enjoy quite often.

give Agentinian Fusion Shiraz-Malbec a try Faux Pas. For Canada it's cheap at $7.45
Most definitely cheaper in the USA

[Shadow]

Gator, while drinking Chateau Rothschild out of a plastic cup was quite memorable, I can assure you that it is possible to find extremely good wines that are under the $10 bracket, providing one is willing to search and compare, especially in the FSU.

 

[Gator]

Please allow me to wax philosophical.

The point is not that one should drink expensive wines all the time.  Instead, there are times in life to take the plunge from the cliff into the unknown water below, literally and figuratively.  If not, the moment is gone.  I feel that I have embraced most of those life moments, and that has made a huge difference.

Gator: Cut to the chase man, you are way overcomplicating this thing. It's basically about getting her half cut and horizontal (ask any guy on the prowel who'll speak honestly). This whole romance and dating thing is overrated. Keep it simple and cheap wine will do that just fine. When I say cheap, I'm not talking ghetto handbags BTW.

Actually only once did I resort to bringing expensive wine from home.   Smitten by a photograph .... age gap.....large language barrier....I needed help so give me a break please. 

Your attitude is not necessarily Ozzie.  A young Sydney man enabled his cause with my future wife when he offerred  in gift paper a fine Penfolds Shiraz (I am amazed at the variety of qualities that vintner offers).

[I/O]

(I am amazed at the variety of qualities that vintner offers).

That whole valley serves up some of the (practically speaking) better product the world has to offer these days. We're a bit spoiled on price really.

Back to the OP, it's not rocket science, the aim of the game is still the same, you're simply playing on unfamiliar territory in another language. The women in your life are either stalagmite or stalactite (Tights come down) and it isn't likely to change much by going half way around the world or putting on some "creative" show.

[ECOCKS]

As some have mentioned, you should consider letting them setup the first couple of dates, it tells you something about the gal's personality and lets you get the lay of the land.

Best of Luck!

[Faux Pas]

Thanks UTRO! I'll look into that