International Marriage Broker Act of 2005

[Maxx]

Good post Oosik

If a man such as myself needs to explain this then the additional problem to this man would be any accusation in the future made to the authorities about this man would be believed. Push 911 and people with guns and handcuffs come to take the man away. He has no defense. A smart woman would know this and depending on her nature or mood could be quite dangerous. I would steer far far away from RW who had man issues. A soft kind widow that loved and adored her late husband would be the safest bet.

Maxx

[TigerPaws]

[color="blue"][size="4"]Maxx,

 Ok I will be mean: Maybe that that is how she became a widow (Black Widow) :hairraising:
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[Maxx]

Always remember Tiger Paws the I-360 self petition is not only for abused spouses of USC but also is used by Amerasians and..... widows..... It's a 3 in 1 petition...

Maxx

 

[rkn777]

Rev. Kevin has the easy solution~ and one does NOT need to be ordained to run an NPO "Linking the Souls of Orthodox Christian Women (with smokin' hot bikini pictures) to Christian men (with histories of protective orders) in America."

I dont think it will shut down anyone in America or the FSU and it will not be prosecuted by anyone and will be an ignored law.    I*IF* and only *IF* another Anastasia King gets killed, will the agency owner ber prosecuted~ and only aftr the fact.   

It will be business as usual for everyone.    

It is Amazing though how the USA has turned into the police state the RW's we love had live live under in the past....  Maybe culture shock will not be so difficult for them now....

Richard

 

[KenC]

It is Amazing though how the USA has turned into the police state the RW's we love had live live under in the past....  Maybe culture shock will not be so difficult for them now....

Richard

Just a note on this.  Lena's response to all the laws and rules here was just the opposite of what you suggested.  She was frustrated by it all and commented many a time about how much more "freedom" was to be had in Russia.  She saw it as a great paradox.

KenC

[rkn777]

[KenC]

OK, maybe it is me not being clear.  Lena was shocked that she had much more freedom in Russia than she had in the U.S..  It wasn't that the two countries were similar but that they were so different.  With America being more restrictive than Russia.

KenC

[BC]

Ken,

Lena is quite correct imho.

I call it 'role reversal'

[TigerPaws]

[color="#0000ff"][size="4"] Perhaps I am mistaken here but  what I believe our ladies see as a reduction in freedom is in reality a more  developed (good and bad) system of rules and laws in America vs. Russia. My lady  has commented on numerous occasions that America seems to have a rule or law for  everything, while in Russia you just do what you want, this is most likely  because of our out of control legal and tort system. [/size][/color]

[KenC]

Tigerpaws,

I see it as a combination of both.  Much of Russia is like the "Wild West" where you make up your own rules as you go.  Where as here we have reached the level of "over governing" in my opinion.  One has the tendency to be out of control where the other is a bit of a control freak.

KenC

[TigerPaws]

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[size="4"][color="blue"]KenC,

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[Turboguy]

I just saw my first effect from the new law.  I get email from an outfit in Houston , TLC, that deals in Latino Ladies.   They have used tours, a catalog and a web site.  I always sorta wanted to go on one of their tours if the owner went personally because I used to write his wife and then his sister in law who 10 years ago was his Lady number 001   Anyway they sent the following e-mail out a few hours ago.


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[align=justify]On March 6, 2006 TLC will suspend address sales to Latin ladies. Under the new law we would be required to contact each individual lady with your background information before you could write her. She would then have to consent to receiving letters from you. Currently, this is an insurmountable task, since we have thousands of lady and gentlemen clients. In the future we may be able to automate this procedure on the internet. In the meantime we will continue Online Personal Ads , VIP, One on One Introductions, and our World]World Famous Singles Vacations.[/u][/size][/color][/font] Stock Up Now ! No Ladies Address Sales after March 3, 2006. [/align]
I am sure we will see some changes from the other us based companies.[/align]

[ConnerVT]

Turbo, i would be curious to see if they actually shut down, or just are using this as a sales ploy.  Maybe I'm a skeptic, but I think by March 10, they will be selling contact info again.

[BillyB]

If businesses go out of business, it'll be because of a lack of customers based on this new law. I don't have a history of anything but I wouldn't want the extra hassles of this law. For some men, it's hard to take this path in their lives and the extra hassles may just be what it takes to say this is not for them. This law will not only decrease the bad men but the good men availiability for foreign women to marry.

The law is a "feel good" "pat each other on the back" kind of law". It's goal is to protect women(finacee) and males(fiance) but it's obviously more to protect women. It's a bad law because if a violent man likes to beat up woman and if he can't do it with a foreign woman, he'll do it with a domestic woman. The law is stupid and it will decrease the violence towards one group of women only to have violence against another group of women increase. Violent men are not going to curb their behavior just because of a marriage law. The government should target these violent men but that would be a problem in America because we can't tell the innocent from the guilty since many men have have been victims of false domestic violence charges.

I suggest the government dictate ALL people's worth as a person and ALL people must carry a card that has a number based on a rating system that shows how good or bad you are as a person. You should also be married to a person with a similiar rating so nobody would cry foul when entering into a union. Just kidding. I prefer two people getting to know each other the old fashion way by getting to know each other better over time.

[TigerPaws]

[color="#0000ff"][size="4"] [align=center][color="#808080"][size="1"]http://www.latinaffairs.com/new%20law.htm[/size][/color][/align] [align=center][color="#808080"][size="5"]International Marriage
Broker Regulation Act of  2005[/size][/color]
 [/align]     [align=center][size="4"]
[/size][size="3"]You  may or may or may not of heard of the law called
International Marriage  Broker Regulation Act of 2005.[/size][/align] [align=center][color="#ff0000"][size="2"]READ AN [/size][/color][size="2"][color="#ff0000"]EXCERPT FROM THE  LAW[/color][/size][/url][/font][size="3"][color="#ff0000"]
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The law placed unfair demands on international  online dating webmasters
and invades the privacy of our  clients.[/size][/align] [align=center][size="3"]Do to the passing of H.R.  3402 Subtitle D, I am now being deemed a "marriage broker". This is for  providing contact information or "facilitating communication" between American  men and foreign women. I am required to collect the complete criminal history,  marital history of each American man that wants to join my website.

I  must also obtain how many children the man has and the ages of those  children.
I am then required to turn over all of this personal information to  each and every foreign lady the American wants to contact.

This law is a  clear violation of an American man's first amendment rights, and the law leaves  me exposed to being sued when the information falls into the hands of a foreign  national that chooses to use the information to harm the American.

This  law gives more protection to a foreign national than our own citizens during the  dating process, and the potential harm to the American man is very obvious due  to the release of such personal information.[/size][size="4"]
 [/size][/align] [align=center][size="3"]The supporters of this law  are attempting to dry up our market with scare tactics used against  international online dating members without concern for their rights and  privacy.[/size][/align] [align=center][size="2"]The new Bill was  introduced by[/size][size="3"] [/size][/b][size="2"]United States
Congress Woman Maria Cantwell[/size][/b][/align] [align=center][/align] [align=center][size="2"]Feel like telling her what you think  of this new Law,
[/size][size="2"]you can  contact her here

[/size][size="3"]We need to come together as one to let our voice be  heard.[/size][/b][/align]    [size="2"]Contact your Congress Representative
And tell her or him,
what you  think of this law

Click  here[/size][/b]
  [size="2"]Your Civil rights are  being violated

[/size][/b][size="2"]Contact your
American Civil Liberties  Union[/size]  [align=center][size="2"]Act now, please sign the petition to  amend this law and pass the word
 [/size][/b][/align] [align=center][size="2"]Please sign our  Petition today.[/size][/b][/align]   
[align=center][size="3"]Or better call  your local Newspapers - TV stations etc.[/size][/b][/align] [align=center][size="3"]The law's intent is  honorable, but behind the intent is specialized women groups to try to put our  sites out of business. The lack of common sense and the requirements of the law  supports my theory that their goal is to put us out of business versus  protecting women immigrants. The women's groups, including N.O.W. are well  organized and we have no such Male Organization in the U.S. with such political  power. [/size]

[size="3"]Thank you for reading this
Diego.  January 21/2006[/size][/align][/size][/font][/color]

[Bruno]

From the same site refert by TP:

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The new Law in the United States makes it impossible for any online dating website to comply.
Latin Affairs has decided to discontinue providing Contact Information
for Ladies from Cuba, Trinidad and Colombia.

Since we are in a Position to comply with the new Law here in the Dominican Republic
click here to meet our Dominican MembersSo, another "victim" of the new law... i think that it is only the beginning...

[TigerPaws]

[size="4"][color="blue"]Bruno,

 I agree, a friend sent me the link on that site, I am sure more agencies will be moving off shore as soon as they are able to.[/color]
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[Kevin]

How about paragraph 4. Stating American agencies can only have American clients.


4) LIMITATION ON DISCLOSURE.An international marriage
broker shall not   provide the personal contact information of
any foreign national client to   any person or entity other than
a United States client

[TigerPaws]

Kevin,

 What is your take on all of this and what will you do?

[Journeyman]

Gentlemen,

Could you help to clarify one item for me on this new law?  I am confused by people citing this law as limiting fiancee visa applications to:

1.  A lifetime maximum of 3, period.
2.  A lifetime maximum of 3 of those applied for after
      the law was enacted.
3.  Simply one (1) per year.
4.  One per 2 year period.

Are any of these statments correct?  Can you provide a clear and concise statement of the law on this point?  
Thank you in advance for your help.

Journeyman

[philb]

Here is one attorney's take on it.

http://usaimmigrationattorney.com/nucleus/index.php?itemid=2#more

See number 2 under "What exactly are some of the provisions".

 

[Gary Bala]

REPEAL IMBRA: The fight continues...

Here are two new Stop IMBRA websites which have come online...  

http://imbra.org/  

http://internationalmarriagebrokers.com/  

Those who haven't yet read my Immigration Blog article on IMBRA, here it is again:  

"The Backdoor Law That Sabotages International Romance"  
http://usaimmigrationattorney.com/nucleus/index.php  

Please take a moment to read my electronic petition to repeal IMBRA. If  you agree, please take just a moment to sign (if you have not already  done so.) (Please note that your name as you type it will be visible to  the public, but your E-mail address will be masked.)

We need signatures to help convince Congress and others to change this law.  

Many thanks!  

http://new.petitiononline.com/imbra05/petition.html  

PS: PLEASE PASS THIS PETITION TO ANYONE YOU KNOW WHO SUPPORTS OUR CAUSE AGAINST IMBRA!
_________________
Web: http://www.garybala.com  
E-Mail: gb@garybala.com  
Tel: 610-446-(VISA) 8472

[TigerPaws]

Rvrwind,

 How do you see this new law effecting your business?

 

[Bruno]

Rvrwind,

 How do you see this new law effecting your business?

 

"Another problematic issue for the foreign owner (or U.S. owner living overseas) is the Consular Interview for the visa. Under this law, the Officer is required to ask the lady if they met through an IMB (as broadly defined in that law). IF the answer is YES, he MUST ask if the IMB provided the lady with all the background client information on the U.S. client and secured her signed written release before the couple communicated. If NOT, then the Officer presumably has the discretion to DENY issuance of the visa because of the broker violation (even though it was a foreign company). "


These law can be a problem for foreign compagny too when it involve American customer...

[ronin308]

While it's a potential problem, it's not much of one unless the lady want's an out of the situation.  It's very easy to coach and prepare what she says during the interview so that even if they did meet through an IMB she will say and sign statements that reflect otherwise.

This is especially true of the woman who simply wants to get into the US.