Life Changes...Part Deux

[BillyB]

Finally, what will you do if the young women who will be living with you apply the same principles to you? What if they start dating younger men that they will naturally meet once in the USA?

If you would read everything you would have noticed I've already stated up thread how emotionally devastated and jealous I'll be if things don't work out with them. Guess. If things don't work out, would I kick them out of the house or not? Do you think those ladies would have accepted my offer if they thought I was mentally unstable or they may be on the street?

How would I feel they apply the same principles to me? READ my last post about how I feel on the second string benchwarmer position of a woman I'm dating finds a more desireable man.

[Misha]

If you would read everything you would have noticed I've already stated up thread how emotionally devastated and jealous I'll be if things don't work out with them. Guess. If things don't work out, would I kick them out of the house or not? Do you think those ladies would have accepted my offer if they thought I was mentally unstable or they may be on the street?

Would depend on the woman and what her motivations are.

How would I feel they apply the same principles to me? READ my last post about how I feel on the second string benchwarmer position of a woman I'm dating finds a more desireable man.

Well, it will be interesting to see how it works out IMHO. Could make for some pretty awkward moments 

[GQBlues]

BillyB-

Did I understand you correctly that you have these 2 devs about to arrive and live with you under their 'work & travel' visas for the summer?

For 3 years before, I've amassed friendships with a whole slew of people generally from CE (CR, SL, H, Poland, etc...) when they used to come in under the work & travel visa programs. There are agencies that handles and oversee visa processing, placements, employments, tenancies, etc. for these people from both sides. From what I remember, those students had to pay/consign serving agencies upfront from their side of the border who will coordinate employment, living arrangements, airfares, etc..for qualified applicants and these are part of the documents that they must have with them prior to acquiring their visas.

If successful, they in turn make monies working here most of the summer which will enable them to recoup the money they paid upfront with some left-overs they can use to take back home, or travel and sightsee anywhere in the US for the remaining time their visa allows them to.

Are you a registered home-provider or employer with one of these agencies, or affiliated to a non-profit one like this one here?

Just curious...

[Faux Pas]

Yes, some women will cry if I end my friendship with them. It doesn't matter if I enter into a relationship with a woman younger or older than I, I still am the same guy and if it doesn't work out with a lady I enter into a relationship with, I am the same guy. If a woman I once went out with doesn't want to go out with me again, the problem lies with her and her jealousy because I certainly haven't changed and will always be the same guy they once enjoyed being around. Today I feel they are my friends. Tomorrow I may want more serious relationships with them. Some men and women fall in love at first sight, others may fall in love with a person over time.

Billy, Your reading women's mind thinking skills falls a bit short here. To many, perhaps most women, you are not "the same man" that you were before you broke it off, after you break it off. What you are at that point is a man who rejected them. Logic dictates that you are one man, in the eyes of a women when possibly choosing them as a mate and a different person (in their eyes) after you've rejected them for another. I actually do not even see this as gender specific. I would look at women differently after they rejected me for another.

You seem to work yourself up into a froth of the "dating world according to Billy" and I have to tell you, you really seem to be living in your own imaginary world. When your college girls arrive go ahead and cut it off with the 20-25  ( or whatever that number was) women you are currently are dating and tell them all bets are off because you've found another. Then at any time call those same ladies up at a later point in time and see how many are interested in riding the "Billy train". I think you are going to be disappointed in the number of positive responses you receive.

Women will think completely different of you after you break it off with them once, doing it because you've chosen another is a double whammy IMO.

[Misha]

To many, perhaps most women, you are not "the same man" that you were before you broke it off, after you break it off. What you are at that point is a man who rejected them.

Very true. If a woman has an ounce of pride, she would not return to a man who dumped her for another woman.

[BillyB]

those students had to pay/consign serving agencies upfront from their side of the border who will coordinate employment, living arrangements, airfares, etc..for qualified applicants and these are part of the documents that they must have with them prior to acquiring their visas.


Are you a registered home-provider or employer with one of these agencies, or affiliated to a non-profit one like this one here?

Just curious...

I was curious too and asked questions and the RW told me for the J-1 she had to show proof of airfare and be fully medically insured and she could work anywhere as long as it was non skilled work. She was here last year so I guess she know what she's doing since her visa is approved.

I am not a registered home-provider or employer with one of these agencies, or affiliated to a non-profit one but students on the J-1 should be allowed to travel and work anywhere in any non-skilled work including working in hotels, resorts, and restaurants.

http://www.jobofer.org/

http://www.migrationexpert.com/us/visa/summer_work_travel_exchange_visa_us_j1.asp

Women will think completely different of you after you break it off with them once, doing it because you've chosen another is a double whammy IMO.

There's not much more I can say on this. Some of you guys are failing to understand that I'm friends with the RW I'm dating, not their boyfriend. I've had conversations with them that it won't go further than friendships with some of them. They aren't dumb. It's not a question of "IF" I will find a #1 woman, it's a question of "When" and they still accept me into their lives knowing this. I know some of those girls very well and I'm confident most, if not all, will be happy to associate with me again.

[GQBlues]

I was curious too and asked questions and the RW told me for the J-1 she had to show proof of airfare and be fully medically insured and she could work anywhere as long as it was non skilled work. She was here last year so I guess she know what she's doing since her visa is approved.

Unless the government program changed, which I don't believe it had, every applicant had to be sponsored even for these non-skilled positions by government-approved sponsoring organizations. Their visa application must be accompanied by an approved prospective employer. This is normally handled by the agency they work with in their respective countries.

The official government list can be found here.

Each of these sponsors would have a closed/strict listing of employers/landlords, etc...to insure safe travelling itineraries for these folks and is major part of their visa/passport certification process.

Some of the folks I knew back then were actually at RDC Campsite in New Hampshire and some were sponsored at Pacific Park here in Santa Monica Pier. The campsite group (Hungarians/Slovakians) stayed inside the grounds and were housed and fed as part of their agreement. They all worked as either camp guides/attendants or housekeepers. The other group in SM (CZ & Polish) worked on the fairgrounds on the pier as booth attendants/cashiers and they were scheduled to live in between 3 designated/appointed apartment dwellings sanctioned by the sponsoring organization.

Once they exercised their 'contract period', they would have about 3 weeks of freedom to go out on their own within the US, and they would all normally meet out here in LA and just party.

Anyway, this is why I asked because it sounded like these 2 devs were coming directly to you under the same program - which struck me as a bit out of the norm unless you are registered as an approved landlord for visa validation purposes.

[Jumper]

There's not much more I can say on this. Some of you guys are failing to understand that I'm friends with the RW I'm dating, not their boyfriend

If BOTH of you are simply  casually dating ,that is certainly understandable
and you would wish each other well .. and maybe later see each other again if paths crossed .. why not?

You did imply these casual situations  ,
but you added the others as well,
and  noone would shed tears if it was so * casual*.

 my response was based on your words billyb. 
your words which mean clearly some  emotional investment by the RW you are dating..
and again my thoughts are those women (as i specifed before,  the RW that would be crying)
they will not find you cutting them off ,to spend time with the college devs respectable because
you are billyb, a real man , so they naturally respect it.

Advising men that's your take on  RW is of course whats the threads about. 


 IMHO  counter points are needed as regardless being a *real* (?) man ,
that is not my experience with RW

I think you listened to the song *A man like Putin*  and took it a bit too much to heart ..

it makes a point, but I believe some satire is there..

[BillyB]

Once they exercised their 'contract period', they would have about 3 weeks of freedom to go out on their own within the US, and they would all normally meet out here in LA and just party.

I read a lot of what you read but just because a woman signs up with an agency who sponsors her J-1, it may not mean they have to work for them. I read one RW profile after translating it and she said she's looking for job offers in LA because the agency is sending her out to work in the middle of nowhere among Bisons.

If the RW comes to my city, I will review her documents to learn more on how all this works. She told my secret profile she made the decision to come to "My city" so I don't think she's playing a joke on me. She is stopping in NY first and it's always possible that she may find a job or guy more appealing than I.

I am communicating with another RW who is here on a student visa and she's currently studying in another major city but she will go back to Moscow for the summer. I told her she should take a look at coming to my city in August and she is seriously considering it. I also told here that although we are physically attracted to each other, we should learn more about each other to get a good idea if we are compatible and have similar life goals before she makes the decision to come to my city. She respects me much more for saying that. It shows I'm not desperate for any pretty face and I have standards and will not just accept anyone in my life.

There are plenty of RW on student visas and work visas in the USA. If they are willing to pay their way to see me, I will think they are serious about me and give them my attention when they get here. I still would always question their motives.

 noone would shed tears if it was so * casual*.

that is not my experience with RW

C'mon AJ, you know that's not right so why say such a thing? Although RW can be strong, they cry when they are leaving friends or friends are leaving them for a long time or forever. Why is it so hard for you to believe a man or even I can be just good friends with a RW? When it's time to go separate ways, some will cry over losing a good friend.

Last week I had two sobbing RW talk to me for emotional support. I feel honored that I'm one of their "go to" friends for emotional support. They may not be crying in front of everyone about a problem but they, like all women, are very emotional and cry.

Seven Brides for Seven Brothers was an excellent movie with real men involved and I leave you with the song "Sobbin Women"

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KvgdpRB81s[/youtube]

[GQBlues]

Billy-

I am not implying to the non-validity of your story or your wom(en)'s sincerity/ies. My curiosity was brought by some points you were saying regarding 'summer' 'work' 'travel', etc...

Student / work visas are different than summer work travel programs, FWIW. Here's some FAQs about summer work/travel guidelines...

Can I change my residence during my program?
Check with your sponsor prior to becoming a participant. Whether you can change your residence during your exchange program depends on the contract or arrangements you made with your sponsor or the potential employer. Some pre-arranged employment conditions include accommodations as a part of the employment agreement. In this case, you cannot seek other housing. If housing is not part of your exchange visitor program, you can change housing. You must however, keep your sponsor informed of your U.S. address. The U.S. address is where you reside in the United States. Regulations require that the U.S. address be reported to your sponsor within ten days of the change.

Can I change my place of employment during my participation in an exchange visitor program?
Check with your sponsor prior to becoming a participant. Whether you can change your place of employment during your exchange program depends on the contract or arrangements you made with your sponsor or the potential employer. Some pre-arranged employment conditions will not permit a change of employment. If you change employment without authorization of your sponsor, your exchange visitor program will be terminated. A participant whose program is terminated must leave the U.S. immediately. Failure to comply can create legal difficulties for the participant that will affect his or her further ability to travel, study or work in the United States at any time in the future.

The rest can be found here.

[BillyB]

The rest can be found here.

Can I work at more than one job while participating in the Summer/Work Travel program?
There is no regulatory prohibition against having more than one job. However, check with your sponsor prior to accepting a second position.

The above statement found in your link tells me that every agency or non profit organization does things differently. I remember the RW profile where I read she wanted a job in LA. She is ready to bolt on the job the agency said they found for her. Maybe it's perfectly legal for her not to accept a job she doesn't like?

My secret profile found out that the RW who said she'll come my city was not only working in NY last year but she went to other cities and South Dakota to meet a boyfriend who is no longer her boyfriend. She never told me this because she probably doesn't want to talk about her ex's if she's thinking of a relationship with me. I have no problem if she's had past boyfriends. It happens. The fact is if she can travel, then she can get away from NY or the base where the agency is located.

How do those agencies get paid? I don't know. Maybe they get paid by the government for bringing in people to work our tourist and service industries. Maybe they count heads in order to get paid and it probably doesn't matter where in the US the heads go as long as they are accounted for and working legally.

I've always said our government doesn't care about kicking out illegal immigrants because we actually need them. Our own citizens aren't putting out enough babies for the population to grow as fast as our growing industry demands so immigrants are needed.

Many of the programs to bring in RW are not available for RM. They are only offered to educated RW. Women are better suited to increase population than males.

I think our government really doesn't care if the single, educated RW screw American males, have babies, and stay here in America due to the benefits for our economy.... besides the benefits for the American male. Some of the RW I know knows a or a few RW who are overstaying their visas. Our government is more focused on finding terrorists or illegals that are doing hard crimes over the illegals that want to stay here and be productive or pump out babies.

With enough work and study visas offered to females all over the World, it is possible someday our President can promise two educated women for every man!

[GQBlues]

The above statement found in your link tells me that every agency or non profit organization does things differently. I remember the RW profile where I read she wanted a job in LA. She is ready to bolt on the job the agency said they found for her. Maybe it's perfectly legal for her not to accept a job she doesn't like?

You may have misunderstood. The specifics was for an additional job, not the primary. If they see fit to work a secondary job, it must fall within the contractual parameters the student initially signed up with the sponsoring primary which was used as her/his basis for acquiring the visa. He/she has an obligation to dance with the partner he/she brought to the prom.

My secret profile found out that the RW who said she'll come my city was not only working in NY last year but she went to other cities and South Dakota to meet a boyfriend who is no longer her boyfriend. She never told me this because she probably doesn't want to talk about her ex's if she's thinking of a relationship with me. I have no problem if she's had past boyfriends. It happens. The fact is if she can travel, then she can get away from NY or the base where the agency is located.

Most if not all of them do, Billy. Guys and gals. Once they complete their program, they are free to roam and screw the brains out of anyone from and in Anywhere, USA that they meet here in the States, or simply go sightseeing during the 3-4 weeks period before having to leave for home. They either snap the camera lens and/or simply just snappity-snip anyone. That's what I implied upthread when I said they have ample time to party to their hearts content once they're done with their respective programs.

Everyone takes turn forking the current prom queen. What else is new?

[BillyB]

You may have misunderstood. The specifics was for an additional job, not the primary.

You might have misunderstood me. If it's perfectly legal by our laws for a J-1 applicant to work a secondary job that is not found by the agency and it could be perfectly legal to work a primary job in America that is not found by the agency. Every agency and non profit organization does things differently. It's quite possible an agency will allow a RW to find any primary and secondary job in the US as long as she reports to them where she's working.

The RW who is coming to see me said it is legal for her to work anywhere in America. Her documents issued by our government allows it. If she has contactual obligations to an agency or organization who may have promised businesses such as Atlantic City Casinos some workers, she may have to keep those obligations until her services are not needed and then she can go find another primary job on her own or go home or party everyday with her hard earned money.

I read in your link "Some pre-arranged employment conditions will not permit a change of employment." That also means Some pre-arranged employment conditions WILL permit a change of employment. It all depends on what a contract says.

The RW coming to see me said she had a job offer in another city but she believes it's fake. She was already hunting for jobs before she was approved for the J-1. Why would she waste time hunting for work when an agency would do the job hunting for her? Who knows what kind of program she signed up with? When I read her documents, I will have a better understanding of what she can and can't do. There are other RW not living in America I communicated with looking for jobs. Again, why would they waste their time doing that if they have to accept what an agency gives them? Maybe they have that option ot find their own primary job.

[tim 360]

Billy,  there seem to be many different types of student/work/exchange programs from the little I know.  Some have to pay their way over and with some the employer pays for their travel.  Some can change jobs and some can't.  Some provide for lodging and some don't.  There are FSU employment agencies that recruit students for working at Disneyland and resorts all over America summer and winter.  There are also agencies in Brazil and other South American countries that send students here on these programs.  I've met students from all over even from Macedonia, Bulgaria, Crotia...some programs do seem to differ.  Good luck.

[BillyB]

Some have to pay their way over and with some the employer pays for their travel.  Some can change jobs and some can't.  Some provide for lodging and some don't. 

When a young, beautiful, educated RW says she's going to come stay with me and she is paying her own way, I tend to think it's too good to be true so I've done tons of reading on the J-1 and came to the same conclusion as you Tim.

 The RW coming to see me is paying for her own airfare, lodging, and medical insurance so she may not be tied down by some agency demands.  I once sat next to a young woman from the former Yugoslavia flying to America for work. She told me her airfare and lodging is paid for by the company she has to work for. I suspect she has limited options in choosing or changing jobs.

[GQBlues]

You might have misunderstood me.

I'm starting to believe so as the story line seem to change a bit...LOL.

*My Link* is a governmental website dealing specifically for this program. I'm surprised you didn't pull that one out yourself before. No secret profiles necessary. So once again...

Can I change my place of employment during my participation in an exchange visitor program?
Check with your sponsor prior to becoming a participant. Whether you can change your place of employment during your exchange program depends on the contract or arrangements you made with your sponsor or the potential employer. Some pre-arranged employment conditions will not permit a change of employment. If you change employment without authorization of your sponsor, your exchange visitor program will be terminated. A participant whose program is terminated must leave the U.S. immediately. Failure to comply can create legal difficulties for the participant that will affect his or her further ability to travel, study or work in the United States at any time in the future.

...while *some* permission, by deduction, may be obtained but it is still up to the participant's sponsor's discretion/approval. In essence, it is not *up to her* but rather it is *up to the sponsor's discretion*.

Your post upthread however told us she's free to work anywhere she wants, whomever she wants as long as it is a non-skilled work. This does not fall in the 'summer' 'work' travel' program. It may fall in the temporary non-immigrant work program, which technically can take as much as a 12 month period (i.e. BrianW's au pair love interest), but not the former. Or at least not what you're trying to lead us to believe before.

[BillyB]

Your post upthread however told us she's free to work anywhere she wants, whomever she wants as long as it is a non-skilled work. This does not fall in the 'summer' 'work' travel' program. It may fall in the temporary non-immigrant work program, which technically can take as much as a 12 month period (i.e. BrianW's au pair love interest), but not the former. Or at least not what you're trying to lead us to believe before.

GQ, your link of the governmental website agrees with me more than you. You seem to be too focused on pre-arranged employment agreements and the obligations that go with it but you fail to understand the RW who is coming here has no pre-arranged employment agreement. Read below from your link:

Must all program participants of the Summer Work/Travel Program have pre-arranged employment before entering the United States?
No. Students entering the United States without pre-arranged employment must have sufficient financial resources to support themselves during their search for employment. Sponsors are required to undertake reasonable efforts to secure suitable employment for participants who have not found suitable employment within one week of commencing their job search. Therefore. participants should contact their sponsor if they have not located employment within one week of arrival.

Do you finally understand that people who come here on a J-1 can financially support themselves and seek their own work without an agency even if it's for a limited time? I told you I done some reading and come to the conclusion what she said can happen...can happen. Why are you continually saying this can't happen and doubted I did any reading on this issue? Even if one doesn't follow the rules perfectly, I doubt there is little enforcement on a person who is in the States spending their own money and contributing to our economy. I'm a little debated out on this issue. You might want to debate Tim instead since him and I agree.  Get your wife's permission, make a profile and question RW who are looking for jobs before they ever step foot in America on why they are doing that. You think they are wasting their time. They don't think so because for some, it's their right.

[GQBlues]

Billy-

That may well be the case. I said upthread while I doubt there's been any changes to the program, my experienced in this before was an agency from their side of the border had to insure there's a coordination sponsor that have itineraries like employement, lodging, etc..in place. The participant pays for the expenses up front and the monies they will eventually 'make' will more than make up for the upfront cost with some 'expected' residuals.

That is part of the reason why I asked you before if you are a registered employer/landlord/sponsor, etc. There needs to be a 'sponsoring body' that monitors each and every participant's visa stay.

Thus, I stand corrected - partly.

In reading the information, including that from Moscow.USembassy, a segment called 'Self-Placement Arrangement' laid out what each participant and sponsor must adhere to prior to departure (I'm sure you read that already). BUT she still must have a sponsor whether or not she already have a scheduled employer prior to her departure. Some employer do overhire because some participants never show up, thus when the student arrives, the position is no longer available. Thus, the sponsor must make due diligence to seek placement for the participant. It doesn't mean she can work anywhere she wants, anytime she wants during her SWT period.

As for this part of your post...LOL.

I told you I done some reading and come to the conclusion what she said can happen...can happen. Why are you continually saying this can't happen and doubted I did any reading on this issue?

You mean after I gave you the link that you likely didn't even know existed, or otherwise would've given it in the first place. Yeah, now I do and I'm glad I can help...

[GQBlues]

As for regarding your secret profile in dealing with your scheduled J-1 recipient/s, LOL. You may want to read this.

Better than a good chance your addy will be on file....

[tim 360]

I think there are some "agencies" (I know some are in NYC) that specialize in this and probably know of every detail and exception...and every trick in the book.  And of course they have offices in other countries and somehow they must be making money $$$.  I knew a couple college girls from Omsk, a few years ago who each said they had to pay about $3000 each to come here and work in Disneyland and they said they could NOT switch jobs, but at the end they had 30 days to travel before going back to Omsk.  But I have met others who also paid their way and could swich jobs.  Again,  it is the "sponsor" who decides.

If you go to Nantucket or the Jersey Shore there are many student/exchange/employees working there in the summertime.  A few told me the sponsor was the agency and a few others told me it was the hotel where they worked.  I do know that in the past many seasonal resorts have been using this temporary labor pool so they could get inexpensive employees.  I think that places like Disney, 6 Flags, large hotels and resorts who hire many of these students probably handle all of this in-house.  As with anything somebody is making/saving money with this program.

In my area a large resort that in previous years hired many students for the season cut back this year when some new law required that they pay roundtrip travel for international student employees.

Heres one:  http://www.jobofer.org/

The above link will show you how this works and who the sponsors are.

I have a funny feeling there is a whole lot of gray areas here and my knowledge is limited.  

[BillyB]

You mean after I gave you the link that you likely didn't even know existed, or otherwise would've given it in the first place. Yeah, now I do and I'm glad I can help...

Why would I need to supply a link before you supplied it? You think your link has the only answers on the internet? After what I read on other websites I was satisfied way before you showed up debating that a RW could not choose her own job anywhere in the USA. If I displayed your amount of skepticism to women, I'd be a lonely guy.

I pretended to believe you just wanted to debate the little issues of what a RW can and can't do on J-1 after you said "I am not implying to the non-validity of your story" but it's obvious you thought I was a liar or stupid after saying :

"Your post upthread however told us she's free to work anywhere she wants, whomever she wants as long as it is a non-skilled work. This does not fall in the 'summer' 'work' travel' program. It may fall in the temporary non-immigrant work program, which technically can take as much as a 12 month period (i.e. BrianW's au pair love interest), but not the former. Or at least not what you're trying to lead us to believe before."

Most people reading what we write will not read all the links and try to figure it out. They will take your word or my word at face value and think the other is a liar or doesn't know what they're talking about. It certainly wasn't my intention to spend a page debating whether or not a J-1 recipient can look for their own job  when you had the answer the whole time.

I stand corrected - partly.

I'm glad you agree with me, maybe.

I received an email from the J-1 RW today. She's very, very sorry that she was out of communication with me for a few days. Yes, RW have the ability to apologize.... if they care about you. She did not answer my phone calls because she still has her Russian mobile phone and if she answers and runs out of minutes, she will lose the ability to recharge it since she's in America. She wants to save her phone for absolute emergencies. Will you skeptics check the validity of the phone recharge situation for me too? She and her friend are in NY now and they will buy the tickets to my city in a few days and notify me when they will arrive.

As I mentioned before, if she's willing to spend her own money to see me, I will stop my current dating scene and give her all my attention until I or her determine we aren't made for each other. From my online and phone communications with her, she is an outstanding lady and if she's willing to pay rent when she stays with me without showing displeasure, then I will begin to understand she's willing to do her fair share in a relationship and is a woman a guy can build a life with.

If we aren't made for each other, I will go back to dating local ladies and if there is no marriage potential among them, I would consider to invite another RW on a work or student visa who's willing to pay her way here.

[GQBlues]

Billy-

All non-governmental information site pertaining to the subject of SWT are for the most part service organization/sponsors/agencies. Information you'll generate in those sites mostly explains how their service is rendered in their effort to assist/serve both the participants and/or any prospective employer.

The redundancy department, once again, reports no participant traveling under the SWT program can seek employment all on their own wherever or whenever they feel like it. That's basically the premise of your argument when you said they are free to work "anywhere they want" as long as it is a non-skilled work. That isn't true. Otherwise there'll be a massive line along the strip getting a slot at places like Spearmint Rhino or other cultural and art-related places like it. This is all up to the respective sponsor's discretion and NOT the participant/s themselves.

Also, once they complete their primary obligations (work) slated in their respective programs, they are forbidden to get any other work. The period left in their visa (30 days) is supposed to be spent 'in preparation of their departure' back to their home country.

[BillyB]

The redundancy department's once again reports, no participant traveling under the SWT program can seek employment all on their own wherever or whenever they feel like it. That's basically the premise of your argument when you said they are free to work "anywhere they want" as long as it is a non-skilled work. This is all up to the respective sponsor's discretion NOT the participant's themselves.

Also, once they complete their primary obligations (work) slated in their respective programs, they are forbidden to get any other work. The period left in their visa (30 days) is supposed to be spent 'in preparation of their departure' back to their home country.

First you say "I stand corrected" and now this? What part of this you don't understand from the government link you supplied? Students entering the United States without pre-arranged employment must have sufficient financial resources to support themselves during THEIR search for employment. and If housing is not part of your exchange visitor program, you can change housing. You must however, keep your sponsor informed of your U.S. address. The U.S. address is where you reside in the United States.

Does it make sense if there is no agreement, there is no answering to the agency except reporting where you are working and living in the USA?

You want to come here to say everything is clearly defined but you fail to understand there can be many scenarios under a J-1 and there are many ways to write a contract if there is one. With that in mind it is possible for a J-1 to work anywhere and choose their own primary job.

I didn't come here and tell everyone I have all the answers which you seem to be doing. What I did say is I don't have all the answers but I've accepted that it is possible the RW coming to see me can do what she said she can do after doing some reading on it. I quickly found my own sites for answers and I'm satisfied but you seem to think I need yours too and I have to be lying since only yours gives the answers. I'm also aware some people don't honor their contracts and violate their visas. I said I will review her documents if she gets here. Have patience. If she is violating her visa, I will question her motives.

I've been playing defense while you've been playing offense. How about you play some defense and tell everyone why you spent days and hours posting and researching an issue that doesn't affect you? Is it because you care about me? I've been questioned about my behavior but some of the behavior I've seen here may force a guy into absitenence.

Everybody has some kind of reputation, even online. How bad you want to help or hurt your reputation depends on you. I knew starting this thread and talking about the positives in my life will get people to react in different ways including negative. I'm having fun and success and I'm trying to give people some tips and ideas that may get them the same success and fun at the risk of some people hating me. I knew that. If my dating tips and my real personality isn't going to catch women, then anybody can debate it and even give their own tips on what works for them. Maybe some would like to debate it but can't? Maybe it's just easier to find one lie which would make everything I've said null and void? I feel much of what I said here is going to help some guys out there at the expense of my reputation. This thread isn't about feeding my ego. Anybody else can help too instead of bickering till the cows come home. I know some guys after reading this thread may improve on their interaction skills with women when talking to them or through physical contact. Maybe some guys will start exercising to look better for the ladies. Maybe they will learn to gain the courage to walk away from insincere women. Maybe they will gain the needed confidence and that alone is a big part of being a MAN. Before anybody debates confidence doesn't make a MAN, I want to say confidence is based on something, arrogance is based on nothing. This thread can help RW too. If we as men become better, then it benefits them.

I'm off to a lunch date with a RW. Be back in a few.

[GQBlues]

I didn't come here and tell everyone I have all the answers which you seem to be doing.

I told you I done some reading and come to the conclusion what she said can happen...can happen. Why are you continually saying this can't happen and doubted I did any reading on this issue?

I've been playing defense while you've been playing offense. How about you play some defense and tell everyone why you spent days and hours posting and researching an issue that doesn't affect you? Is it because you care about me?

See reply No. 152. Offense/defense, LOL, pretty funny.

Maybe it's just easier to find one lie which would make everything I've said null and void?

Hhhmmm Lie? I wouldn't know...so definitely any allegations won't come from me.

I'm off to a lunch date with a RW. Be back in a few.

Have fun...

[BillyB]

I guess since no mention of what can and can't happen with the J-1 in your last post GQ and considering you or I don't have the complete answer on what can or can't happen with the J-1 visa the RW has that's coming to visit me, you now agree a J-1 recipient can live and work anywhere they want outside of an agency agreement if they have their own finances to do so? Sounds impossible but it is possible a young beautiful educated RW can fly herself on her own dime to a guy's doorstep anywhere in the USA and live with him.

I think there are some "agencies" (I know some are in NYC) that specialize in this and probably know of every detail and exception...and every trick in the book.  And of course they have offices in other countries and somehow they must be making money $$$.  I knew a couple college girls from Omsk, a few years ago who each said they had to pay about $3000 each to come here and work in Disneyland

Tim, maybe we guys at RWD can chip in $, buy an apartment in NY, set up an agency, and charge J-1 recipients $3000 for the 4 months in the Summer they are in country and we'll find them a job or a husband whichever comes first of course. After summer is over, we can charge RW on student visas rent for a place to stay in an environment with other FSU ladies. It'll be a hit and our apartment will be booked year around! We can offer the single ladies the potential to meet men listing them online. We charge the men who'll fly in all over the country $50 a date. WE can offer our male clients an Western style apartment too, interpretations services....even if they don't need it and pass out prizes and balloons during their stay! Wishful thinking but maybe not a bad idea to make some money and import honey.