Life Changes...Part Deux

[Faux Pas]

Do you understand the situation there?  Enter Libya as a US citizen?  I suppose  he could have flown to Niger or Chad, forged a passport, obtained a yellow hat and entered Libya as a mercernary to help Ghaddafi.

Billy proclaims to be a GOOD man. Not a GREAT man 

[GQBlues]

Do you understand the situation there?  Enter Libya as a US citizen?  I suppose  he could have flown to Niger or Chad, forged a passport, obtained a yellow hat and entered Libya as a mercernary to help Ghaddafi.

I do, though I don't believe it'll help much at this time though with the current state. It would've taken 1-2 weeks to get the visa as they lifted the Arabic translated application sometime last year. They even allowed tour operators to process the tourist visa applications before the trouble began.

At the very least, it would not have taken much time to zip to Ukraine and meet them there. He'll be front and center in her life (and mumski) from here on in and these moments in our lives are when these really all come to light. Walk the talk. After all, that's what he's been alluding to this entire saga, no? I don't think the rock of Gibraltar and western union are affiliated. There are times money should not be the first choice to ease a troubled soul and mind. Some folks do associate money for that, but...que sera, sera.

But that really wasn't the point (actually being there, but rather the effort). I know I would've done it. I would gone to Ciudad Juarez if my wife or fiancee was stuck there and trouble was brewing in a heartbeat. But that's just me. I am not second-guessing BillyB nor you or anyone, I'm saying this would've been a slam dunk for me. Like he said, we all have our own different methodology in life, which I wholeheartedly agree with. Don't you?

[tim 360]

At the very least, it would not have taken much time to zip to Ukraine and meet them there. He'll be front and center in her life (and mumski) from here on in and these moments in our lives are when these really all come to light. Walk the talk. After all, that's what he's been alluding to this entire saga, no? I don't think the rock of Gibraltar and western union are affiliated. There are times money should not be the first choice to ease a troubled soul and mind. Some folks do associate money for that, but...que sera, sera.

But that really wasn't the point (actually being there, but rather the effort). I know I would've done it. I would gone to Ciudad Juarez if my wife or fiancee was stuck there and trouble was brewing in a heartbeat. But that's just me. I am not second-guessing BillyB nor you or anyone, I'm saying this would've been a slam dunk for me. Like he said, we all have our own different methodology in life, which I wholeheartedly agree with. Don't you?

GQ, YOU ARE THE MAN!  Billy time to man-up and pack your bags.

[Turboguy]

I can agree with what you said about going there GQ but I have a feeling the State Dept would not have allowed him to persue that option.  As hard as they were working to get American's out of there, I don't think they would have been too eager to allow an American in.

[dbneeley]

I can agree with what you said about going there GQ but I have a feeling the State Dept would not have allowed him to persue that option.  As hard as they were working to get American's out of there, I don't think they would have been too eager to allow an American in.

Turbo--

I agree with that, but there seems no good reason he could not have already met them in Ukraine--if not when they arrived then shortly thereafter. When a fiancée's life has cratered around her, surely a man who claims to love her so would want to provide all the help and comfort he could. I suppose there are varying levels of "love" in these situations.

If this is not a "family emergency" that would justify extraordinary measures, I'd be hard pressed to think of another that might qualify. Sorry, but this smacks a bit of the "I'll love you 'till death do us part--so long as it's convenient."

Of course, I may be mistaken and a bit harsh since he may not have posted all the details as yet.

David

[I/O]

I/O, yes. If she is 175-180 cm or higher, she is perfectly "model" equipped.

Nope. 

[pitbull]

Nope. 

Oh, I see... They prefer short-legged babushkas for models down under, right? 

[I/O]

Oh, I see... They prefer short-legged babushkas for models down under, right? 

Ya never know......

[Rubicon]

Turbo--

I agree with that, but there seems no good reason he could not have already met them in Ukraine--if not when they arrived then shortly thereafter. When a fiancée's life has cratered around her, surely a man who claims to love her so would want to provide all the help and comfort he could. I suppose there are varying levels of "love" in these situations.

If this is not a "family emergency" that would justify extraordinary measures, I'd be hard pressed to think of another that might qualify. Sorry, but this smacks a bit of the "I'll love you 'till death do us part--so long as it's convenient."

Of course, I may be mistaken and a bit harsh since he may not have posted all the details as yet.

David

having been on disability for so many years you seem to have forgotten what it's like to work in the real world.  first of all Billy just took a vacation recently to Ukraine, so he probably does not have any vacation days available.  secondly, even if he did, most companies require several months of advance notification of when specifically you want to take your vacation days.  you cannot just up and leave on a moments notice and expect to have a job when you return--that is called a terminable offence and most companies would certainly terminate your employment to make an example, because they need to have reliable people working for them.  if Bill were to do this and lose his job, what good would he be to A??  he than could not afford to support her.  sometimes I wonder where your common sense is, David.  kind of like your idea that it was illegal for him to contact her at the age of 17, even though he did not meet her in person IIRC until she was 18.  do you really think that the "thought police" were going to arrest him for what he might have been "thinking"??  if you are really so concerned about what happens to underage women, look into what happens to those that are kidnapped and forced to go to Bosnia or Czech.  maybe you could put your money where your mouth is and give to a charity which helps these young women who are actually suffering from real crimes.

[BillyB]

A and mom are looking for jobs but the economy is bad and job opportunities are slim. All of mom's documents listing her experience and qualifications was left behind in the hospital in Libya. Most medical facilities won't hire her without seeing the documents. The medical facility she worked in before knows her capabilities but they want mom to pay the director there for her job. One reason mom left Ukraine is because she didn't like the mentality of other medical professionals bribing patients for services. Mom isn't going to pay the director for the privilege to work. Mom tells A it's probably better to die in Libya than in Ukraine. A has bought a computer with some of the $1500 total money I sent in a short time. She will finish her expensive education that mom already paid for. She does her lessons on the computer and takes her exams in Europe.

When A landed in Kiev, she was met by reporters and later seen herself get interviewed on TV. The news reported that the government welcomed their citizens from Libya with a blanket and warm meal but A said that was a lie since she didn't receive anything from the government when she arrived.

A says she can't get a hold of her friends in Libya. I made the mistake of asking A if she was able to get some friends to look after her kitten. A started to cry and said she didn't want to talk about it. I may not know what happen for a long while so I'll assume nobody wanted to look after the kitten and A either let the kitten loose on the street or tried to take it to the airport only to be told animals are not allowed which would mean the kitten would have to cross a runway to freedom or run into a panicky mob of people and get stomped to death. I wouldn't blame anybody of A's friends for refusing to look after an animal. In war, priorities come first and humans are more important than animals especially when feeding an additional mouth is a burden with food becoming scarce and prices going through the roof.

Mom and A decided to live in mom's unfinished apartment. It lacks heat and some rooms still need to be remodeled. A said mom scolded her for telling me all their problems they've been having lately finding a job. Mom tells A that telling me their problems is the same as begging for help and I'm not her husband yet and not obligated to help. I tell A that I consider her and mom family and what kind of man am I if I live in a warm house and eat good and my lady is cold and hungry.

A was offered to sell cheap cosmetics door to door but was told she may not get paid if she doesn't sell enough. A did not accept the job because she doesn't want to waste time working a job where the boss determines if you should or should not get paid at their discretion.

I ask how much money A has left and A refuses to tell me. After her buying a computer, clothes and food, I'll send some more since I estimate it isn't much. In my last few calls, A never talks about the past or present problems. I like how mom teaches A. When times are tough, be strong and try to solve your own problems without help from anyone. A tries to give mom the money I sent but mom refuses to take a dime. Mom has too much pride. I convinced A she should take it and buy things for mom.

When I date ladies, I would dump them fast if they ask for gifts or money but A never asks and because she is now my lady and earned my trust, I will freely give without hesitation.

In other news I went out with a  RW friend a couple of nights ago. She told me some of what's going on in her life and I gave advice. She is one of the ladies I've dated in the past and who I've mentioned earlier in this thread as the lady who read this forum and recognized me in my avatar. I don't know if she read this thread but when we were talking about relationships, she said she knows I've dated lots of women before her and after her. I don't mind is she participates in this thread. I hopes she beats up on some of the girly men here.

Billy,

How tall is A? Looks like she has an excellent body, maybe she could work as a model in the US. Good age for this too.

A is 176 cm or 5' 9". It is possible she could still be growing. I've dated two models before and A looks better than both of them. I live near a major city and if A wants, she can do some modeling since there are modeling agencies that are always looking for new faces. A has most features required of models, long legs, long neck and big eyes. As far as looks go, I understand everyone has their preferences. Some of my friends say I've dated more beautiful FSU women. Others in this thread have said A is as beautiful as women come in the FSU.

One of A's hobbies is photography and it's probably why she's good at striking a pose. With professional advice and top notch camera, she can do much better in photos but for now she wants an education.

If anybody here feels I'm model material, don't be shy and say it. I won't object!

Just because I don't participate in the 'show and tell' or what I describe as 'relationship exhibitionism' you shouldn't read too awful much into it. Marriages will have highs and lows, that's quite normal. 

If you want to keep your family matters private, you shouldn't predict other people's failures based off your “experience”. You're already telling too much. Since you don't want to give it a rest BC, let's cut the BS. You read my postings for years. You don't have to always agree with me. You don't even have to like me but you can't deny that I'm a very intelligent man. So when you come here and tell me I'm naive and compared me to Photoguy, people are going to question your intelligence or your motives.

Just because you predict someone's relationship is doomed based off your experience doesn't mean I or others are naive. It's just that we're being polite to you and not commenting on what your “downs” are in your relationship. I KNOW some of you married guys have problems. You get into shouting matches with your wife. Someone has an alcohol or spending problem. Your wife doesn't want to be intimate with you anymore. Your love for each other deteriorates and your life becomes empty. You  then come here to blame your problems on culture differences or age difference. You refuse to blame the failures on the individual or individuals in a bad relationship.

One message I been trying to send people here is that when you search for a person in your life, you judge them as an individual. Many of the men here have failed to understand that message especially those who think I'm here to teach people to catch only young women. If a woman is a lady, classy, elegant and family oriented when she is 18, most likely she will be even a better woman when she is 30, 40 and so on. If a woman is a biatch and gold digger when she's 18, she will likely be a better and more efficient gold digger later in life.

I KNOW what some of you married guys are going through. That is why I'm a very picky person and won't marry the first or 31st woman I date just because she has a pretty face. I'm picky because I don't I don't want to be in your shoes. I don't want to live your life, and I don't want to be YOU. Faux, GoodOleBoy, Kuna and BC.... I'm going to say it again. I don't want to be YOU. I don't want to be the married guy that comes to the forum with nothing better to do than to pass out cheap shot insults. I don't want to be the married guy with nothing better to do than play with other people's photos. I don't want to be the married guy that comes to the forum and predict  people's relationships are doomed based off my experience and failures.

Someone PM'd me and mentioned I'm getting hammered in this thread but I don't think so. Lots of guys would love  to have the life I'm having instead of the life of my critics. They hope to have many ladies to choose from. They hope to associate with many fine women and date them. They hope to marry a fine lady. I'm not lucky because I can do what I'm doing over and over. I'm confident I can get results because I know me and I know what kind of ladies are attracted to me. I “get it”. I don't struggle figuring out who the scammers and gold diggers are. They are easy to identify. There are a lot of fantastic and sincere women sitting at home because a lot of men don't know how to identify a quality woman from scammer.

Life is tough. It's even tougher if you're stupid. For those who are struggling with success with ladies, you need to make some adjustments. You may need to make an attitude adjustment to get different results

Some RW I've dated  pretty much say the same thing. They think only 10% of the men out there are husband material. Those are sorry numbers. That means a lot of you men are losers in one way or another in the ladies eyes. The ladies say many men are drunks, lazy, unemployed, stupid, unfaithful and very few men(10%) are marriage material because they have none of those bad qualities. Being sober, working and being faithful are not that difficult to achieve. Stupid could mean you may have to get educated, change your views on how the world works, and/or get an attitude adjustment so you're not so grumpy and hard to live with.

I'd like to address some of the newcomers to the forum. You will find over time that there are happy couples that post. Husband may give friendly advice to people and occasionally give high praise to his wife. His wife may come here and praise him occasionally. They will never give credit to their happy marriage to them being from different cultures or have and age gap. They will never predict you will have the same success if you marry from a different culture and/or have a large age gap based off their experience. It would be ridiculous for them to say that because the truth is success and failure is due to the individuals involve in relationship. Over time you will read other people in marriages blame age gaps and culture for their failures or predict other people's doom without having any idea about the quality of the individuals in the relationship they are commenting on. Maybe they do have an idea of the individuals but are in massive denial that others can do better than themselves.

Turboguy and VWRW is one of the happier marriages I've seen on this forum. That's the kind of marriage I would like to be in. I also look at the people who praise their spouse, post happy and post photos of their family especially babies. What I read from those people is that they are happy. I'm not naive. I know what I want and how to get it and definitely know what I don't want to the point I can be a happy single man for years until I find what I want.

With the recent situation A was in I got a little tolerance and a short fuse. My goal is not to dig into your lives but you you guys want to bite, I'll bite back and someone IS going to get their feelings hurt. If you guys have any questions about me or A and ask them as polite as Pitbull did, you will get a polite response.

Don't put me down to put you up. If any of you have some happy paths to success to share, then speak up educating us about your model of success. You may have a better idea than I to catch quality women so don't keep it a secret. You want to beat me? You want to hammer me? Then tell us how your path to success and let others be the judge. If you don't understand how to get the job done yourself, how are you qualified to tell me the path I'm taking sucks?

btw.. If my fiancee had gone through the same as yours, my butt would be sitting in an airline seat, no matter what she said, instead of at a WU counter forking over some cash.  You really should have greeted her and FMIL in Kiev with a warm coat and taxi.  Flight time would have been less than posting time on RWD.

I've read this post when you first wrote it but you changed it although there is no evidence that you edited it. You said something to the tune of that maybe I can't afford the trip. You and others have had a hard time believing this story and occasionally plant a seed into people's mind why it isn't happening. In this case if I can't afford a trip to the FSU, this story can't be true. Put your money where your mouth is and lets feed some hungry RW.

To be clear, I can take off work anytime since I run a business and do what I want. For those who thought I should go to Libya need to be smarter than that. Difficult to get a visa and get it ASAP, especially during a crisis. Things happened so fast, that when I got word that an evacuation was initiating, there was less than a day before A was to go to Ukraine. I wasn't even sure she would be catching the plane and you want me to be there to welcome her with a coat and taxi? I didn't know what airport or if she even caught the right plane. Did you read what SteveOR said earlier? 38 foreigners were on the plane to Ukraine. For those that don't understand, in situations like in Libya, people are willing to catch a ride anywhere out of there even if it doesn't take them home.

A is not stupid. She knows I want to see her right away. She knows I want her to be with me right now. I don't need to tell her otherwise she will think I stupid. After A arrived to Ukraine, I asked her when is the best time to visit and she said she needs time to get a job and her life in order. We decided in April when the weather is better and she's in a better position to see me.

Yes I love her that is why I can be patient with her. She needs to catch up on her studies and find a job. The last thing she needs is me to show up and feel obligated to entertain me and lose another week or more on her studies and job hunt which will compound the stress she's having.

When you guys get a pretty woman for a girlfriend, do you do strange things to prove your love that you wouldn't normally do for a not so pretty girlfriend? Power of the Bush? Can you think intelligently with the big head and be considerate of a woman's needs instead of your own? Many of you guys would make decisions based off your emotions. Men aren't supposed to do that. That's what women do. Emotions can make a person run into a hail of bullets to save a loved one but you got to make sure the loved one is there to be saved and you got to make sure you don't have better options.

I do not need to show up in Ukraine ASAP to prove my love. A already knows I love her. I made the wise decision to give her an ear to listen to her and money to help her get on her feet without showering her with emotion and burden. I gave her everything she needs now. She's not in a hospital or on a bed traumatized crying all day everyday to the point I have to physically help her back on her feet by being present. She's over the incident in Libya. The past is the past and the only concern she has now is the future.

As of recently she has said many thank you's and that she is lucky to have found me and she is happy to have me. She has learned I'm generous, patient, and understanding during this crisis. Since I can't find her a job or help her study, it's best I stay back for now and let the tough girl take care of business. My actions or lack of will be noticed and is appreciated by A. Based on her words and tone of voice over the phone, her admiration of me has grown.

And of course, I admire A's photos  thanks for posting them Billy.

Even though we're far away, we've shared our lives through a lot of photos and I will be posting more.

I would be curious to know how the things will be progressing when A will be in the US in her status as Billy's wife.

I'm curious too! One reason A is a safe bet for a wife is because her attitude is to help her husband through all the problems. Of course A is not dumb to marry a man with many problems but she understands life isn't perfect and thus she would be happy to have even a normal marriage instead of disaster.

A and I have talked about everything from who does the dishes and wash clothes to how many times I would desire her in a day. There will be no surprises when we are married. Most people have problems in their marriage because they fail to communicate. If A fails at any of her responsibilities, I will let her know and if she doesn't correct herself to live up to her responsibilities and let herself go, I will probably end the marriage. I don't expect A to stay in the marriage either if I fail to live up to my responsibilities. The way A has handled herself and got her life back on track after Libya impresses me. She can handle the difficult shituation and not act like a helpless baby.

A has many of the same beliefs as I when it comes to marriage and the roles of husband and wife. Although I've earned the title of MAN in her eyes, it would take a lot for me to destroy my marriage with her. A doesn't believe in divorce. It's against her religion, against her family tradition and against her personal conviction. She doesn't tell her family past her mom that I'm divorced otherwise they would try to prohibit her from marrying me. She comes from a long line of women that don't divorce their husbands and save themselves for their husbands.

I want to give an example of the type of woman I'd be interested in. Below in the link is an example of a woman that has the same beliefs as I pertaining to marriage and the roles of the husband and wife. Read all her profile and you will see she's willing to submit to her husband but is a strong enough woman to not allow her to be a slave to an ungrateful man.

Her profile is only a few days old and if I weren't taken, I'd write to her. She seems classy, elegant and very much a kind lady. If she likes my looks and writes me then she may like my attitude and I would visit a woman like her and could marry her if we're a good match. Although some posters want to claim I only target very young women, the truth is I target all women...that are quality ladies regardless of age.

At Bride.ru the ladies write their own profiles without advice from agencies so most likely it's their own words. If you're single, don't be stupid and write ladies like her. She may eliminate most men based on looks and eliminate most men or all men based on what they say. She will have some  favorites out of the batch of men that write her. She may allow some men to call. If you're one of the guys she allows to call, be respectful and don't call her at work or sleep. Don't call often sending signals your desperate but call enough to show you like her. She will pick her favorite man and she will talk a special way for him only. If you're that man, I hope you have enough brains to know that you're her favorite and all you have to do is make plans to meet her, court her and claim her. She may not tell you that she's yours but you have to feel it in her behavior and voice. Before I visited A, I posted a photo of her in this thread. I knew she was mine before I even stepped on the plane. I knew my good manners and behavior with ladies will seal the deal with her. The only thing I had to determine is if I want a woman like her in my life and her good manners and behavior during my visit to her made my decision easy.

http://bride.ru/ph/htcgi/ladies/872/872516P4.html

I seriously doubt posters  e-feelings are hurt?
Some will bother to post their thoughts ,others wont even bother.
That's far closer to reality than your current delusions on the motivations of others

AJ, recognize things for what they are and women will find your mind sexy. Stupid will get you in trouble. Do you really believe I'm only targeting very young women? Do you really believe some people are pissed at me for marrying an 18 yo even after BC got a free pass for what he would consider with an 18 yo? My critics aren't angry at me for those reasons. Only Boethius is truly upset I'm marrying an 18 yo woman because she thinks it's immoral and thus all parties involved including A and mom are immoral. I got more respect for Boethius for saying that than the other jokers that haven't got the guts to blame a woman for anything. If a guy has to scream 50 times that he doesn't approve what I'm doing, what I'm doing isn't what is bother him, it's me that's bothering him. Wake up AJ. I think it's about time to make another call for the men around here to MAN UP.

[JR]

That's on long assed post LOL!

Well Billy, I don't give you very good odds with an 18 yo but it's your life....live it!

P.S. Know of a lady who wanted to leave her FSU country real bad and had the money to make it happen. She signed up with and English language school here in California, paid the fees and they had her a student visa in two days. Your lady could be here in less than a week.

And I do wish you both the best.

[Partizan]

Hi Bill, I hope everything works out for you and your lady. I'm glad she is back home safe with her mother. I see you have extensive experience with FSU women. Where did you meet them, online or in your hometown?

[Gator]

Billy, I don't keep up with every post.  I have one observation and perhaps it has been discussed before. It seems that your attraction towards the daughter is mostly physical stimulation, and the mother completes  the relationship by providing the mental stimulation missing with the daughter.

Could you have a fulfilling, enduring relationship with just the daughter?

My lady's 22-yo daughter is staying with me.  She is a  beauty and remarkably voluptuous (and literally is harassed every day at her university).  She knows more English than her mother, yet my discussions with mama are 10x more interesting.  Yes, some of this is personality.  Yet, most of it is because the daughter is still a kid.  And she is 22, not 18.

[BC]

On the practical side, why not just do a K1 with mom and do a K2 for the daughter.  Would resolve all their woes.

[Faux Pas]

On the practical side, why not just do a K1 with mom and do a K2 for the daughter.  Would resolve all their woes.

 

You sick Bastid

[Turboguy]

On the practical side, why not just do a K1 with mom and do a K2 for the daughter.  Would resolve all their woes.

That is the funniest thing I have read for a while. 

[BC]

You sick Bastid

Hey Faux... I was being serious..  would take some cojones but doubt anyone at the consulate would bat an eye at the interview.. pics together, proof of traveling/meeting together - it all fits like a glove..  Being able to save two damsels in distress at the same time?? It's perfect, a no-brainer.

[ML]

She signed up with and English language school here in California, paid the fees and they had her a student visa in two days.

Hey, you knew that couldn't be true, even as you were typing it!  :-)

First and foremost . . . no school can give a student a visa ; whether in 2 days or in 2 years.

All any school can do is give the student a Form I-20 which the student then takes to US embassy in home country to START the process for a student visa.  Even the interveiw times are scheduled 2-4 weeks or farther into the future.

And it isn't even easy or quick to get I-20.  Can take several months to get all the school applications submitted, recommendations, transcripts from prior high schools, universities certified, translated into English notarized, get the financial proof in proper order, certified, notarized, etc.

[Faux Pas]

Hey Faux... I was being serious..  would take some cojones but doubt anyone at the consulate would bat an eye at the interview.. pics together, proof of traveling/meeting together - it all fits like a glove..  Being able to save two damsels in distress at the same time?? It's perfect, a no-brainer.

You were serious..... really?
 

I don't think Billy has any doubt as to the magnanimous size of his cojones. Just ask him.

[BC]

You were serious..... really?
 

I don't think Billy has any doubt as to the magnanimous size of his cojones. Just ask him.

Faux,

In the face of Da MAN I succumb.. I've converted to the rah rah club and from this day will do all possible to support him with reasonable and well thought out ways to help him achieve his goals.

But... Something keeps nagging me..  He does not seem to be here for help or support at all, regardless where it comes from or it's form.  It seems we should humble ourselves and awe his counsel instead..

Just think about it... I've just learned from His Testicular Self that I've wasted almost 9 years of my life being married to my wife..  Hmm.. Our daughter is almost 18 now.. Should I divorce?

I'm so depressed and confused now.. Please, someone, anyone tell me it's not true..

[Lily]

A and mom are looking for jobs but the economy is bad and job opportunities are slim. All of mom's documents listing her experience and qualifications was left behind in the hospital in Libya. Most medical facilities won't hire her without seeing the documents. The medical facility she worked in before knows her capabilities but they want mom to pay the director there for her job. One reason mom left Ukraine is because she didn't like the mentality of other medical professionals bribing patients for services. Mom isn't going to pay the director for the privilege to work.  

Billy, if the Mother is a medical professional, why wouldn't she consider skilled immigration to Canada? Some medical professions are in the list. She may be able to include A as her accompanying unmarried daughter. Did you ever suggested this to her?

[GQBlues]

....When you guys get a pretty woman for a girlfriend, do you do strange things to prove your love that you wouldn't normally do for a not so pretty girlfriend? Power of the Bush? Can you think intelligently with the big head and be considerate of a woman's needs instead of your own? Many of you guys would make decisions based off your emotions. Men aren't supposed to do that. That's what women do. Emotions can make a person run into a hail of bullets to save a loved one but you got to make sure the loved one is there to be saved and you got to make sure you don't have better options.

Strange things?!? Sending money as the first act to ease your concern is what would be 'strange' to me. Immediate association to certain things in situations that hardly have any need for such can have undesireable consequence...but hey, that's just me. It's been said before...we humans are mere creatures of habit.

If you don't mind me asking, did A asked you for money during your conversation, or did you just assumed they'll need it and thus gave it?

As for past GFs, I actually had to sit there and think, "What strange thing have I ever done to get laid with my past GF(s)? Hhhmmm...do people actually have to do that? Do strange things to get laid with their GFs, I mean? I know you didn't really say it that way...but the whole proving your love hero-complex flavor generally implied it? yes?

Life before for me: I was having way too much fun to go and waste my time having long term, drama-filled relationships. I never understood the point at the time why most men actually wanted relationships and/or marriage. So many delicious willing women, sheeessh.

Why park the car when you have a full tank of gas and hundreds of open roads to drive, 'knowwhatImean?

I can honestly say there was really only one gal I was in love with enough to officially term a GF (outside of my wife) before. She's a jewel. All of the others are those who I can condoned (tolerated was likely more the mode) calling me a BF for no other reason I didn't mind seeing her exclusively for a while and drop the others. But those are very few and far in between and hardly went over a month. After swimming in the sheets with the same gal for a week straight, regardless how 'hot' she is, I get bored stiff and I lay in bed thinking I should be out there right here and now as I may be missing out on someone bigger and hotter. Then when I do...it's lather, rinse, repeat.

Heck, even that was boring sometimes....

The first time is always the most exciting one, I think. New curves, new body lines, new scent, new low audible bedroom noise, etc...yum! The second time, things have the obvious tendency to become...familiar. If she's really 'hot'', boredom gets delayed, sometimes abated, but then one or two more washing...I'm longing for the 'reset' button. No soup parties, no meeting the parents, no undies in my drawers....

I do not need to show up in Ukraine ASAP to prove my love. A already knows I love her. I made the wise decision to give her an ear to listen to her and money to help her get on her feet without showering her with emotion and burden.

I am happy she feels that way. You will be perfect for each other...

I gave her everything she needs now.

Which is what? Money?

She's not in a hospital or on a bed traumatized crying all day everyday to the point I have to physically help her back on her feet by being present. She's over the incident in Libya. The past is the past and the only concern she has now is the future.

Good news! Great to hear that BillyB. SmoothO will approve. You're the perfect graduate to Dean's school of smoothness. Personally, I really think you guys will be fine. You gotta do your thing. There is no other way really...and I mean that sincerely.

[Gator]

Hey Faux... I was being serious..  would take some cojones but doubt anyone at the consulate would bat an eye at the interview.. pics together, proof of traveling/meeting together - it all fits like a glove..  Being able to save two damsels in distress at the same time?? It's perfect, a no-brainer.

I too had a good chuckle.   However, if mama and daughter are inseparable, your idea is a good one.  If BillyB gets a K-1 for the daughter, it will take years and years to get a family visa for mama.  A student visa for mama? She does not seem to be student material.

[Faux Pas]

Faux,

In the face of Da MAN I succumb.. I've converted to the rah rah club and from this day will do all possible to support him with reasonable and well thought out ways to help him achieve his goals.

But... Something keeps nagging me..  He does not seem to be here for help or support at all, regardless where it comes from or it's form.  It seems we should humble ourselves and awe his counsel instead..

Just think about it... I've just learned from His Testicular Self that I've wasted almost 9 years of my life being married to my wife..  Hmm.. Our daughter is almost 18 now.. Should I divorce?

I'm so depressed and confused now.. Please, someone, anyone tell me it's not true..

Yeah I don't know how I could have been so blind and missed it earlier. All I need do for a healthy happy relationship is consult Billy Strongcack. The kool-aid is tasty. I could quit beating my wife and she'll put out again and erase my need to pass out cheap insults. It is amazing how far a marriage can deteriorate in just a year and a half. Thanks Billy! May I have another?

[BC]

I too had a good chuckle.   However, if mama and daughter are inseparable, your idea is a good one.  If BillyB gets a K-1 for the daughter, it will take years and years to get a family visa for mama.  A student visa for mama? She does not seem to be student material.

Yepper.  It sounded like they both enjoyed living outside UA anyway so returning is probably a bummer.  Add the impending marriage/emigration, having to regroup their lives, leaving mother behind issues etc.. quite an emotional mix..   The idea appeals in many ways including both mother the and daughter being able to attend the wedding (albeit in a convoluted way) which may otherwise not be possible since a tourist visa is probably out of the question considering the circumstances.

I just hope he hasn't sent off the K1 for daughter yet, but guess even then a 'change of heart' could plausibly explain retraction and submission of a new one on behalf of the mother.  Probably stranger things have happened before.  I wish I were privy to some of the experiences of a Consul behind that bulletproof glass.  I bet they have some real doozies to tell.

Reminds me of that old line.. "Be careful with your prayers as you may get more than you bargained for."