Life Changes...Part Deux

[Shostakovich]

That is quite the anger issues you have there  But, pray tell, if the declared INTJ's such as myself and BC are such "losers" who "try to noodle it out about women" (whatever that means), why are we married 

Little joke their Fauntleroy - lighten up.

[GQBlues]

That little quiz was a bit tedious but tried it anyway ( more than a couple of questions are the same although worded  a little bit different...didn't really read what the result was but apparently folks like Mark Anthony, Madonna, Roosevelt, heck even Sean Connery et al..fit in the same mold as I do - EntJ.  

Here, I often thought there were only two classifications of people...those that do and those that don't.  

[Jumper]

AJ where are you?

lol
Why? am i missing something?

 I still believe the thread is typical of reactions on most internet forums,
tame in comparison to the *which oil to use* debates on a chevy or ford forum ,
and certainly tame compared to any sports forum where the rabid fans
are *wound up*

Mostly I was distracted reading about a hero in the tsunami.

http://www.badassoftheweek.com/akaiwa.html

perhaps a prime example of those who "do",   GQ?

[GQBlues]

 

That was too 'real' AJ. Thanks for sharing...

"...But it gets even worse. Hideaki's wife of twenty years was still buried inside the lake somewhere. She hadn't gotten out. She wasn't answering her phone. The water was still rising, the sun was setting, cars and shit were swooshing past on a river of sea water, and and rescue workers told him there was nothing that could be done – the only thing left was to sit back, wait for the military to arrive, and hope that they can get in there and rescue the survivors before it's too late. With 10,000 citizens of Ishinomaki still missing and unaccounted for, the odds weren't great that Hideaki would ever see his wife again.

For most of us regular folks, this is the sort of shit that would make us throw up our hands, swear loudly, and resign ourselves to a lifetime of hopeless misery.

But Hideaki Akaiwa isn't a regular guy. He's a f**king insane badass, and he wasn't going to sit back and just let his wife die alone, freezing to death in a miserable water-filled tomb. He was going after her. No matter what.

How the f**k Hideaki Akaiwa got a hold of a wetsuit and a set of SCUBA gear is one of the great mysteries of the world. I'm roughly twenty hours into Fallout 3 and I'm lucky to come across a fucking vacuum cleaner in that godforsaken post-apocalyptic wasteland, yet this guy is in the middle of a real-life earth-shaking mecha-disaster and he's coming up with oxygen tanks, waterproof suits, and rebreather systems seemingly out of thin air. I guess when you're a truly unstoppable badass, you, by definition, don't let anything stand in your way. You make shit happen, all the time, no matter what.

Regardless of how he came across this equipment (borrowing, stealing, buying, beating up a Yakuza SCUBA diving demolitions expert, etc.) Hideaki threw on his underwater survival gear, rushed into the goddamned tsunami, and dove beneath the rushing waves, determined to rescue his wife or die trying. I'm not exactly sure whether or not the dude even knew how to operate SCUBA equipment, but according to one version of his story he met his wife while he was surfing (which is awesome, by the way), so it doesn't seem like that much of a stretch to say that he already had a little experience SCUBA diving under a more controlled situation. Of course, even if this dude didn't know how to work the gear I'm certain that wouldn't have stopped him either – Hideaki wasn't going to let a pair of soul-crushing natural disasters deter him from doing awesome shit and saving his family. He dove down into the water, completely submerged in the freezing cold, pitch black rushing current on all sides, and started swimming through the underwater ruins of his former hometown..."

...see I can 'hang' with this dude...anytime/anywhere. There's a little bit of this story that borders a segment on this thread. TFF.

[dbneeley]

Based off the number of men that's hating me now, there's no way I could be "bi" even if I tried. Any of you guys wanna go out on a date wtih me?

BillyB--

Again, you seem to have an inflated opinion about yourself. You are simply not significant enough to engender "hate" at least for me.

The entire classification thing is interesting in this case. The fact that you test as "introverted" is fascinating, since your online persona is quite the opposite. It seems Walter Mitty is alive and well and known as BillyB--a true legend in your own mind.

By the way, I seriously doubt a true "alpha male" would be an introvert.

David

[chivo]

I took the test and here are my results:

F- feelings are very impotant to me
U- understanding others is crucial
C- compassionate and circumspect
K- kindness is always a virtue
E- educated yet egomaniacal  
R- rest I need rest from this thread

[Daveman]

Woa Nelly a male INFP.  That's a rare bird.

Heh, my introverted perception of my intuitive feelings indicate that my ManlyMan image is shot to hell... 

I took the test and here are my results:

F- feelings are very impotant to me
U- understanding others is crucial
C- compassionate and circumspect
K- kindness is always a virtue
E- educated yet egomaniacal 
R- rest I need rest from this thread

 

[tim 360]

Based off the number of men that's hating me now, there's no way I could be "bi" even if I tried. Any of you guys wanna go out on a date wtih me?

Billy you are getting paranoid.  Honestly I don't think anyone here "hates" you.  Thats a strong emotion for most men and they seldom hate a guy for doing something they think is stupid.  Some might think you're making a big mistake or half-nuts or foolish or depraved or all four, but I've seen no evidence of hate--most I think are fairly polite given the rhetoric of your posts which others may disagree with.

[acrzybear]

This whole thread is pure entertainment-it has romance   (well the perception anyway), comedy  :selfharm:, drama  , suspense   etc...... Throw in a car chase and an exploding building or two and I think you'd have a blockbuster.

My feelings are indifferent, however it is mildly amusing watching a middle age man proclaim his alpha male manliness.

[Turboguy]

Reading your comment about people hating you i got curious how many had you on ignore.  You only have 3 which is what I had the last time I looked so either you don't have that many people hating you or they hate you but don't want to miss the next installment of this saga.

Billy, many may not agree with your actions but you are obviously fairly smart and smart enough to know that the things you have posted would create some controversy.  Personally I think if people liking you was a top priority we would not have heard as many details as we have.  Personally I think you enjoy it.

[Gator]

This whole thread is pure entertainment-it has romance   (well the perception anyway), comedy  :selfharm:, drama  , suspense   etc...... Throw in a car chase and an exploding building or two and I think you'd have a blockbuster.

Disagree.  In a blockbuster,  the movie hero played by Ralph Fiennes (The English Patient) would have crossed into Libya and rescued his woman.  Absent those scenes, this is more akin to My Dinner with Andre without the thought provoking questions about the meaning of life.   

[Shostakovich]

Reading your comment about people hating you i got curious how many had you on ignore.  You only have 3 which is what I had the last time I looked so either you don't have that many people hating you or they hate you but don't want to miss the next installment of this saga.

Billy, many may not agree with your actions but you are obviously fairly smart and smart enough to know that the things you have posted would create some controversy.  Personally I think if people liking you was a top priority we would not have heard as many details as we have.  Personally I think you enjoy it.

INTJ pencil-head by day, Internet drama-queen and bad-boy the rest of the time.  Ah yes, the shadow personality of an INTJ would be an ESFP ...

[acrzybear]

Disagree.  In a blockbuster,  the movie hero played by Ralph Fiennes (The English Patient) would have crossed into Libya and rescued his woman.  Absent those scenes, this is more akin to My Dinner with Andre without the thought provoking questions about the meaning of life.   

Gator

I was thinking more of what I call bubblegum blockbuster-the movie has no actual value other then entertainment.  You know the kind of movie you forget all but the 2 (or maybe even 3) memorable scenes. 

[Gator]

Sorry Bear, I was not serious.  Forgot to insert smileys.

[TomT]

Since you want to join this conversation and take the high road with my critics, I have some questions for you. I remember reading your trip reports years ago and you visited and dated some young ladies. What was your age and their ages at the time of visit? I don't think the young ladies you visited or dated just happened to be the youngest you wrote to. If you want to be brutally honest, what was the youngest age of a woman you communicated with?

Aren't you worried that GoodOleBoy will insult you too and say you look like the father of your wife or girlfriend? I don't think you have to worry. GoodOleBoy isn't an equal opportunity insulter. He doesn't have the guts to insult everyone equally here.

When I was fifty-eight, I visited a woman of twenty-seven. The other examples were more mundane (agewise, at least). 

"If you want to be brutally honest..."

Your latest attempt to goad me is as clumsy as it is amusing but, making the optimistic presumption that you would know honesty if it bit you on the ass, I briefly communicated with a nineteen-year-old once.

As always, GOB is free to express his opinion. If he chooses to focus on you, not on me, it is probably because you have made yourself a much easier target. What can he say about me, anyway?
That I am too cement-headed to know the risks?
That I am a DonJuannabe in Fat Bastard's clothing?
That I am sending thousands of dollars to prove that I am an Alpha man in love?
That I brag about my large tool and my skillful use of same too often?

This is your thread, after all. Far be it from me to shift any much-deserved attention away from you.

[erudite]

  to Tom T.

[dbneeley]

As always, GOB is free to express his opinion. If he chooses to focus on you, not on me, it is probably because you have made yourself a much easier target. What can he say about me, anyway?
That I am too cement-headed to know the risks?
That I am a DonJuannabe in Fat Bastard's clothing?
That I am sending thousands of dollars to prove that I am an Alpha man in love?
That I brag about my large tool and my skillful use of same too often?

This is your thread, after all. Far be it from me to shift any much-deserved attention away from you.

TomT--

You said it very well.

In times past, BillyB would simply be regarded as a braggart, a boor, and a poseur.

In his attempts to provoke comment, I don't think he truly realizes how ludicrous and pathetic he seems.

David

[I/O]

I don't think he truly realizes how ludicrous and pathetic he seems.

Disagree.

[dbneeley]

Disagree.

I/O--So, apparently you think he *does* recognize how ludicrous and pathetic he seems?

If true, he's a sicker puppy than I had assumed.

David

[ML]

This thread has been around for a loooooonnnnnnnnggggg time, whereas my thread on 'the man is always wrong' is one day old.

But I am struck by some similarities in the comments of posters.

In both Billy's case and my own, there are many here who strongly disapprove of what we are doing, actions we have taken, etc.

Because of this disapproval, many posters use every opportunity possible to attack us from all sides; even going so far as to lie repeatedly about their own thoughts, behaviors, etc., so that they can continue to attack.

Even when Billy's (and my) current words have nothing to do with the topic that caused the posters to originally disapprove of us; the goal is to attack, attack, attack.

Oh yes, the next post from these attackers will be:  "Don't delude yourself into thinking that you are so important we would bother continually attacking such piss ants."

Sorry, I have written that so you can't now use it . . . but you will be creative we know.

This truly pathetic behavior in attacking Billy from every angle (while continuing to lie about their true selves) makes any of his pathetic behavior pale in comparison.

And no, I don't know Billy or anyone else here; and will never meet Billy or anyone else here.

[Ade]

You say;

And no, I don't know Billy or anyone else here

And yet you proclaim;

This truly pathetic behavior in attacking Billy from every angle (while continuing to lie about their true selves) makes any of his pathetic behavior pale in comparison.

Personally, I can't claim to know anyone's "true self" here and I have to go by what they write. Billy's writing is plain for everyone to see and, although there seems to be a marked difference in interpretation, to me what seems fairly obvious is that he's patently wrong on some of his oft repeated points; he definitely talks a lot about himself, he's really not that intelligent and, going by what he's written, he's definitely not that wise either. Of course, how you rate intelligence and wisdom are relative; to a child, even the most dumbass adult is wise beyond words.

[Faux Pas]

ML, is this an admittance that you are in fact the "guy" in your other thread? You should start another thread and not pollute Billy's with your whining, crybaby. At least ask Billy's permission before you join him at the hip. Your threads are not similar  

[TomT]

ML,

When you put something out there for public discussion, you have to take the bad with the good. As I recall, there were critics, supporters and those who had no particular leaning. As always, those with the strongest opinions are the ones who are loudest. Be that as it may, trust me, you and Billy are very dissimilar.

[Harb]

Hello.  I have read this thread while lurking.  I am on a business trip staying at a crappy hotel so I can kill time here. 

Sorry to say Billy but mies is right about intentions here.  The internet makes a small world and I know this family personally.  It is your life to do as you want and maybe you enjoy sending money in such situations.  It is not a lot of money but in that part of Ukraine it is still a substantial sum.  I don't care what you decide to do but you should do it with eyes open.  You have not judged this family well.

[BillyB]

What is your bottom line intent in this huge thread?

To help people out. To improve their lives and their relationships. I'm sure some people here have even improved their sex life after reading this. I'm so confident in my ability to find quality women that I started this thread before getting to my destination. I can't fail. I'm too happy to fail and I'm too good of a man to fail. When I'm on dates with women, I see their reactions and behavior towards me and I know I'm better than my competition. The women even tell me I'm better than most men they've dated. Guys may not like it but guys like me are kicking their butt when it comes to courting women and we will catch the wife material girls first if they don't make some adjustments with their attitude and behavior. I'm not here to tell guys I can do this once, or got lucky, but I can do this over and over again with fantastic results. Newbies get enough nice advice told to them here. I'm giving them a real experience. Mine.

that PM was not a warning, but rather a "softener", after I though I might have been a bit harsh on you, and didn't want my words to cause you bad mood. If you did not understand even that tiny bit, and took it as a warning, maybe it's your subconsciousness, not the forum members, is giving you warning signals.
 I tried to warn you only once, long time ago (more than a year). There is no warning contained in any of my recent posts in this thread. Do you see a warning in them?

I love you too Mies. Thanks for caring but I'm a big boy and got to live my life and do it myyyyyyyyy wayyyyyyyyy.

most I think are fairly polite given the rhetoric of your posts which others may disagree with.

If you see a guy walking down the street with his lady who may have a different age difference, of a different race, and culture and another man makes a snide remark and he gets a beat down, don't feel sorry for the guy getting a beat down. Nobody can see me walking down the street with A but I'm telling people my life and if I get some snide remarks, I'm going beat down some people at my own discretion. I'm being nice enough so this thread doesn't get sent to “No Holds Barred” forum where people can scream their heads off. I started this thread, I didn't start the fight. I'm not only telling a story but giving people examples of a strong man who would be attractive to females. Earlier I showed strength through tolerance. Now I've shown strength by verbal muscle. I needed examples and a few people volunteered. Maybe you thought they be polite but don't feel sorry for them. Those that insult others on the internet sit behind the safety of their computers so nobody actually gets hurt.

Your latest attempt to goad me is as clumsy as it is amusing but, making the optimistic presumption that you would know honesty if it bit you on the ass, I briefly communicated with a nineteen-year-old once.

Tom you're more than 20 years older than I but I don't condemn you if you communicated with some of the youngest women. You both made your choice but again you prove along with my other critics that you're no different than I in how young of a woman with a large age gap you'd consider entering into a relationship with. What is different is that you guys are hypocrites. Look at the guys who liked your post. Erudite, your buddy, ripped me earlier for entering into a relationship with A isn't affected by you communicating with a woman young enough to be your grandaughter. This isn't about me entering marriage with a young lady is it? Something else is bugging you guys. Don't let the life I'm enjoying affect you.

When I was fifty-eight, I visited a woman of twenty-seven.

Was she the 27 yo on your past trip report that took one look at you and walked away? One purpose of my thread is to prevent those things. You can be part of the solution telling of your experiences yet  you chose to be part of the resistance. There are already too many guys jumping on a plane for a stranger. Some men don't even call the women prior to their visit. They can't even tell if a woman is into them because there is a failure to communicate. I know how sincere “into their man” women think, act and talk. I knew A was mine before I even stepped on the plane.

Manlooking started a recent thread where he said a guy was devastated after seeing his fiancee lit up and smiled more with another man than she's ever lit up and smiled with him. Lots of men show up in the FSU and think their special but in reality, their woman settles for them since nothing better has come their way.

Hello.  I have read this thread while lurking.  I am on a business trip staying at a crappy hotel so I can kill time here. 

Sorry to say Billy but mies is right about intentions here.  The internet makes a small world and I know this family personally.  It is your life to do as you want and maybe you enjoy sending money in such situations.  It is not a lot of money but in that part of Ukraine it is still a substantial sum.  I don't care what you decide to do but you should do it with eyes open.  You have not judged this family well.

Welcome to the forum Harb. It's an honor to have your first post right here. You may have read this thread but you've failed to understand. How much money do I spend on my dates? For entertainment I take many of my dates to parks. How much money does that cost? I recommend to men to keep their wallets shut and win the ladies over with who they are, not what they own. I tell men to walk away and don't look back if a woman takes you shopping on early dates. When I visited A and mom in Ukraine, how many times did they resist my money when I offered to reimburse them for something they bought for me? Men could only wish to have the hospitality and manners A and mom displayed towards me. They even bought a pearl necklace for me to take home to my mom. Have you seen her photos? If A is looking for money, she could find plenty of men on the internet and in real life who'd give it to her. She has pride, dignity and she doesn't need my or any man's money.

A is not just a woman I dated. I consider her my family now and she and her mom is in a crisis situation. I don't want her to starve or struggle. I know the money I sent her is a good amount for that part of the country but if she is my family, it's her money too and I don't look at it as giving to charity or to impress her. I let my ex wife spend most of the money I made. I don't mind if my woman is taken care of better than myself. I will not tell ladies I date this but if a “sincere” woman can win my heart, she will learn how much I'll take care of her and how generous I can be.

You are simply not significant enough to engender "hate" at least for me.

You don't hate me even though you called me a braggart, boor, poseur, ludicrous and pathetic. Other people don't hate me even though they called or insinuated I'm  immoral, pedophile, pervert, child molestor....etc. It's good to know that I'm loved by all so I shall proceed......



Good news. The Ukrainian government is helping their citizens who fled Libya by finding them jobs. Mom will not accept a job at a supermarket if that's what they find her. She will only accept a job that utilizes her skills and/or pays a decent wage.

A and I have exchanged tons of photos. She is interested in my life and those in my life. She asked for my family photos often and we discuss those photos in detail on the phone. She takes a great interest in my life in many ways and this is one of them. Trading photos is one way we share our lives with each other although we are far apart.

When my grandfather on my father's side died, my grandmother entrusted me with precious family photos. Out of all her grandchildren, She wanted me to pass them on to future generations. My sister made a book from the photos so everyone would have copies but I have the originals, there are lots but I will only share a few here.

First photos are of my grandmother and grandfather with relatives. Second is of my great grandfather with grandfather as a child. Third is of my great great grandparents with my grandmother and her sister as children. Third is of my great great great grandfather.

I joined the Army when the 1st Persian Gulf War started. I knew my father joined the Army when the Vietnam war started but I learned only after my grandfather passed away is that he joined the Navy when WWII started and my great grandfather joined Army when WWI started and my great great great grandfather joined the Army when the Civil War started. I learned that I come from a long list of men that join the military only in a time of war. I won't tell my sons this until much later in their lives. I'm curious if they have the same mentality as their forefathers.

If A remains my wife until I die, like my grandmother she will choose who gets to carry the photos next and pass on to future generations. Maybe it'll be one of our children, grandchildren or even great grandchildren.