ML and Ukrainian Women.

[ML]

The bread war has long been over.  As I posted a couple of times earlier in this thread, she has completely embraced the no bread (actually just reduced bread) concept as she has seen the results with her weight.

We both compromise every day.  That has not been a problem.  I have given up tons  of business opportunities to help with her daily English lessons.

Every intelligent person knows there are many tests of the relationship.

[Boethius]

I was being facetious about the bread war.


"of a relationship vs the relationship?  (asking for clarity in what you're saying).   If so, I disagree.  I can only view this from my own experience of marriage, and those of friends around me.  Personally, I never had any "tests" in my relationship.  I married, for better or worse, for life.  I never worried about ranking, or whether there was a tit for tat.  I'm not saying others who do this are wrong, just that the statement is not universally true.

[Gator]

I suppose the compromise is a test of your relationship.  But remember, women who compromise all the time begin to resent it.  Then one day, she leaves and he has no clue why.

I misssed this comment while away golfing.  It is so true.  I have a feeling (no evidence) that few RW are victims of being walked over for a long period of time..   

[ML]

Update:

Gal has decided to just take the tuition scholarship and forego the Graduate Assistantship, at least for the Fall semester.

With regard to the timing of her summer trip back to homeland, I finally told her to choose any time she wanted.  She choose the time that fit best for us to do the things here at the best time.  So all is well. 

She bought the tickets last night also.  Saved about $300 over next best price by going Aeroflot JFK to SVO and then down to KBP; same routes on the return.

These prices jump around some every day, so you never know which route and airline will be the best deal.

[ML]

Gal finished all final exams in the Intensive English Program for Spring 2012 and got all A grades.

She also took the TOEFL 2 weeks ago and achieved higher than the minimum score required for graduate school here.

(Note: I avoided use of term 'passed TOEFL' because there is no such thing.  Each college or organization sets their own required minimum score.)

Now she is studying for the final exams for the two calculus courses she is sitting in on.  She isn't getting credit for these courses, but she wants to keep the pressure on herself by aceing these exams also, which she has been doing.

She is anxious to finish up these exams so she can get out into the yard full time for a few weeks.

[Daveman]

Gal finished all final exams in the Intensive English Program for Spring 2012 and got all A grades.

She also took the TOEFL 2 weeks ago and achieved higher than the minimum score required for graduate school here.

(Note: I avoided use of term 'passed TOEFL' because there is no such thing.  Each college or organization sets their own required minimum score.)

Now she is studying for the final exams for the two calculus courses she is sitting in on.  She isn't getting credit for these courses, but she wants to keep the pressure on herself by aceing these exams also, which she has been doing.

She is anxious to finish up these exams so she can get out into the yard full time for a few weeks.

Congratulations Gal!


Keep up the good work!   

[ML]

I have been gone from here the past month.  Like going cold Turkey.

Gal and myself had a great time the month of May doing a thousand things we hadn't gotten the chance to do when she was busy with school.

Nearly 11 months together without any major hitches.

But alas, now she has flown back to the homeland for a month long visit.

I shall miss her . . . but it is also sort of neat to get some free time by myself for a change.

[The Natural]

I was wondering where you were at. Good to see you're okay.

[ML]

I was wondering where you were at. Good to see you're okay.

Thanks for your concern. 

I think I hinted in another thread that I was spending far to much time on this forum for awhile and needed to attend to other matters.

Now that my Gal is gone for a month, I will probably waste more time here!!

Good to read that your trip seems to be going well Natural.

I have been to Crimea many times, but mostly in the triangle area of Simferopol, Yalta and Sevastopol.

[ML]

The art of ballet raised to a new level
 
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=GsTqmEeBKhw&vq=medium#t=41
 
 
 
 This should win any conceivable talent contest.

[Anotherkiwi]

The art of ballet raised to a new level
 
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=GsTqmEeBKhw&vq=medium#t=41
 
 
 
 This should win any conceivable talent contest.

Words (almost) fail me!!!!!!
 
Absolutely unreal. 

[ML]

Some months ago my Gal told me of an acquaintance who had gotten Hepatitis from dental work performed there.

Now that she is back visiting, she has heard of a second person who got Hepatitis after dental work at a different dental clinic.

So apparently this is not uncommon.  Death can occur from Hepatitis, as I understand it.

Anyone else heard of this Hepatitis from dentist in FSU situation?

It would be another factor to consider in the decision as to whether to get dental work done in FSU or not.

[Belvis]

So apparently this is not uncommon.  Death can occur from Hepatitis, as I understand it.

Anyone else heard of this Hepatitis from dentist in FSU situation?

Never heard about Hepatitis from a dentist in FSU. Usually people like to tell horror stories about AIDS from dentists My explanation is simple, Hepatitis-C is a venereal disease so dentists look a more acceptable reason to blame for.

[Boethius]

Hep C is a bloodborne virus.  It is most commonly transmitted by intravenous drug users in the West.  It can also be transmitted through poorly sterilized medical equipment.  It can be transmitted by sexual contact, but only if blood is present.  Hep A and Hep B can be transmitted through bodily fluids.  Hep C is far worse than the other two.

There was a case in Florida in the late 1980's/early 1990's, where a dentist with HIV infected 10 patients.

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00001877.htm


So, it has been known to happen.  Here, by the way, is the story of that dentist's first known infected patient -

http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20113381,00.html

[ML]

Just talked with my Gal.  I told her of some disbelief here that one can get Hepatitis from dentist.  She had had some more input regarding the latest case, and the woman has Hepatitis B. 

After a visit with Infectious Specialist,  this woman was informed that the most common method of getting Hepatitis B in Ukraine now is from a dentist or from a manicure. It so happened that this woman had both a tooth extraction AND had a manicure that involved some bleeding within the past 6 months. 

[Belvis]

In Russia there is a programm of vaccination  against Hepatitis B. All kids are required to have one.  Though the vaccination could be suspended in Ukraine in 1990s because of the mess after SU break-up.

[newjason]

Nice to have you back  ML. 

Now that you mention it , My ex Ukrainian GF was really freaked out about getting hepB from the dentist too.  She also threw away her manicuring tools but only after a person from questionable past used her nail file, and she then used it too. 
I think it's possible to spread disease in these activities, but It is very very unlikely that dentists would be the source of this.
Unless of course they were an IV drug user, which is also more common in Ukraine than I had ever imagined.
When I found out that patients give themselves their own injections, I did not believe it at first.
But I did find out that it is in fact true. 

I think that it is much more likely this person may have shared a needle and (un) intentionally pricked herself and instead of admitting to such stupid and risky behaviour, she found it easier to blame the dentist.
That may just be the "go to " guy for infected drug addicts.  "the dentist did it to me "
Kinda like , the Butler did it.

I am positive that my ex had a HUGE drug habit that sometimes if not all the time involved shooting a needle. I can think of no condition where you would need to give injections to yourself vs eating a tablet or drinking an anti-biotic. 
No, injections are for immediate delivery of narcotics, and not for aspirin or prozack.
This also explains the crazy shift in her personality and behaviour once she returned to ukraine.

I mean, really, when have you ever heard gossip of an IV drug user giving hepB or C to himself because they are stupid?  No it is a much more dramatic topic when the person blames the dentist or the lady at the salon. The fact that drug users lie and are in denial is another factor that I would entertain before going to Dr. Tooth and making such accusations.
Oh, and just because one has a perscription, and it is leagal , doesn't make that person exempt from being an addict.

If conditions are so dirty in a dentists office, this would get around and no one would be going to the dentist. Better to get a cavity than a hep virus.  I know things are very sub par compared to the west, but common,  how many other patients mouths would have had to be touched and no hand washing being done to spread a hep virus? 
Like working with power tools in a persons mouth all day without rinsing or any disinfection at all? maybe then. maybe.
Where do they get their facts from? have they tested anyone for this?  I am really curious now
It's also possible that she got it from her BF, during...  whatever... 
People don't want to believe the truth even if it's laid out right in front of them.
Fantasies are more fun, and make you not responsible for your actions or non actions.

  Hey kinda like here ..

hehe, that's my devils advocaton for today   
of course that's just my opinion

Since when did everybody become so gullible anyway?
Or more simply when did Jaosn become so skeptical?
Don't answer, it's a rhetorical question.

 

[Anotherkiwi]

...I can think of no condition where you would need to give injections to yourself vs eating a tablet or drinking an anti-biotic. 

Have you not heard of insulin injections for diabetes?

[missAmeno]

I can think of no condition where you would need to give injections to yourself vs eating a tablet or drinking an anti-biotic. 
No, injections are for immediate delivery of narcotics, and not for aspirin or prozack.

I can. I am originally from Ukraine and when was kid and in my teens was given injections of antibiotic penicillin and anesthetic novocain (its common to use for reducing the pain from injection of penicillin) due to bronchitis on several occasions. They were prescribed and my mum was the one who had to inject them. Every time injections were prescribed only if bronchitis was really bad or been going on for prolonged period of time and nothing else helped.

And thats simple example, there can be many reasons why injections could be required.

[ML]

Just received this pic so that I "wouldn't forget her."

Being a leg man, I never noticed her eyes before . . . honest!   

Not too bad for 40 something.

[Gator]

ML,
 
Fine looking woman.   Missing her, huh?   That says something.   
 
And she has not been gone that long.  That really says something.   You are justifiably proud as well as horny.

[ML]

My Gal has been gone for 3 weeks now, and still one week to go before she is back with me.

The fat AW are starting to look not so fat recently.

This is dangerous.

[steveh1155]

In Russia there is a programm of vaccination  against Hepatitis B. All kids are required to have one.  Though the vaccination could be suspended in Ukraine in 1990s because of the mess after SU break-up.

The CDC recommends hepatitis A and hepatitis B vaccinations for Americans traveling to Ukraine.

[Anotherkiwi]

The CDC recommends hepatitis A and hepatitis B vaccinations for Americans traveling to Ukraine.

That's a bit mean-spirited towards the rest of the world    - do they think we're already infected?

[ML]

My Gal is scheduled to get on plane early Saturday morning to fly back to me.
Will she get on this plane?
Who knows!