ML and Ukrainian Women.

[Patagonie]

The cultural shock is often expressed in differences between
two countries.
Unfortunately they can quickly expressed (or being understood) as superior or inferior qualities.
I have fought with my girl too ML and now i am very cautious to NOT hurt her and avoid the cultural match : this in our country considered as low quality or ....
And the cultural match can happen very quickly. Difficult thing to manage ! Minefield !

[I/O]

I said to him:  "She is from Ukraine.....................

I don't need to read further, you've insulted her to the extent it will never be forgotten, never. You may obtain something which vaguely resembles forgiveness but it will never be forgotten..........ever.

[ML]

Thanks for all the helpful hints guys.

But, didn't I make clear that:

1) My Gal is different
2) Our relationship is different
3) I am near perfect
4) She is very forgiving
5) And many more such   

[Anotherkiwi]

Thanks for all the helpful hints guys.

But, didn't I make clear that:

1) My Gal is different
2) Our relationship is different
3) I am near perfect
4) She is very forgiving
5) And many more such   

...and you're also 90 years old, so she'll probably forgive even your dribbling when in company! 

[ML]

Ha!   You are just jealous that I can attract a woman half my age.   

For you, that might be 'jail bait.'

[Anotherkiwi]

Ha!   You are just jealous that I can attract a woman half my age.   

At the moment, seeing I'm single, that is all too true 

For you, that might be 'jail bait.'

Thanks for the compliment, but I'm about twenty years too old for that scenario. 

[ML]

My Gal was interested in going to an Orthodox church today to 'get the water.'
(Last year she never mentioned  wanting to do this.)

I checked the phone book and there was only  one such church listed.

I called it and they told me they had celebrated the 'water day' a couple of weeks ago under the 'new calendar.'

I wanted to say:  "How  can you claim to be Orthodox, if you don't follow the Orthodox calendar?" . . . but I didn't.

[Ranetka]

My Gal was interested in going to an Orthodox church today to 'get the water.'
(Last year she never mentioned  wanting to do this.)

I checked the phone book and there was only  one such church listed.

I called it and they told me they had celebrated the 'water day' a couple of weeks ago under the 'new calendar.'

I wanted to say:  "How  can you claim to be Orthodox, if you don't follow the Orthodox calendar?" . . . but I didn't.

I know, very annoying.


Around where I live there are two: one follows Western calendar and provides services in English, another follows Eastern calendar and provides services in Old Church Slavonic or English.   I think they belong to different church authorities.

[BBC]

I wanted to say:  "How  can you claim to be Orthodox, if you don't follow the Orthodox calendar?" . . . but I didn't.

Ranetka +1

ML, your gf was right - in the majority of cases the Orthodox events stick to the old calendar, i.e. the Epiphany supposed to be on 19th of January. You simply choose to call to the "wrong" church which followed western style. 

[ML]

A crisis is brewing !!!  

One of our neighbors proudly presented us with a fresh loaf of labeled 'Ukrainian Bread' that she found at a local grocery store (on opposite side of town from us that we never go to).

Wow, was it very good tasting; even better than anything I had tasted in Ukraine.  My Gal wouldn't go that far; but she admitted it was very good.
Tastes great with just butter on it.  We used it as dessert tonight.  A very heavy, rich, full bodied taste.  Has about 12 different grains in in;  if the label is to be believed.

For those of you not 'in the know' from my previous posts in this thread, we had a small crisis in getting bread out of the daily menu during her first weeks here over a year and a half ago.  Don't ask . . . read about it !!

She has been fully on board with the 'no bread' routine all this time . . .
but now we both know this great tasting stuff is just a few miles away.

Will this be the equivalent of other couple's arguments about money, sex, and in-laws?   

[ML]

Can anyone top this?

When I got up this morning, I found a 2 X 3 piece of paper on floor of my bedroom.

On it, written in red ink (that my Gal uses to grade papers) was written:  "I love you Valentine."

Went into my private bathroom and found an identical note on my sink, then another on my toilet stool (lid down).

Gal heard me up (she was already studying), came into my bedroom, pushed me on bed and had her way with me.  I tried to resist.

When I put my jeans on,  found another note in the pocket and another in my shirt pocket.

Into kitchen and found another note on breakfast bar, another on dinning table, another in my big easy chair and another on seat of my car.

Came to office and one on floor inside door and another on my keyboard.

She won't tell me the total number yet to find.

Seems better than the big Valentine card I got her.

But,  I have a diamond ring I am going to give her at dinner tonight.
No, not an engagement ring.  It's actually called an Anniversary Ring, according to jewelry store people.  Has 3 rows of diamonds, with 9 small diamonds in each row.

[Muzh]

Does your gal knows you talk to strangers about your sex life?

[Patagonie]

Can anyone top this?

When I got up this morning, I found a 2 X 3 piece of paper on floor of my bedroom.

On it, written in red ink (that my Gal uses to grade papers) was written:  "I love you Valentine."

Went into my private bathroom and found an identical note on my sink, then another on my toilet stool (lid down).

Gal heard me up (she was already studying), came into my bedroom, pushed me on bed and had her way with me.  I tried to resist.

When I put my jeans on,  found another note in the pocket and another in my shirt pocket.

Into kitchen and found another note on breakfast bar, another on dinning table, another in my big easy chair and another on seat of my car.

Came to office and one on floor inside door and another on my keyboard.

She won't tell me the total number yet to find.

Seems better than the big Valentine card I got her.

But,  I have a diamond ring I am going to give her at dinner tonight.
No, not an engagement ring.  It's actually called an Anniversary Ring, according to jewelry store people.  Has 3 rows of diamonds, with 9 small diamonds in each row.

Good to love and to be loved.
 

[calmissile]

Good to love and to be love.
 

+1

[Anotherkiwi]

Does your gal knows you talk to strangers about your sex life?

He's been doing it for years - do you really think her's likely to stop anytime soon? 

[Ranetka]

But,  I have a diamond ring I am going to give her at dinner tonight.
No, not an engagement ring.  It's actually called an Anniversary Ring, according to jewelry store people.  Has 3 rows of diamonds, with 9 small diamonds in each row.

It's nice to know you are actually human and can do things that are not necessary.

[Ranetka]

Does your gal knows you talk to strangers about your sex life?

Hopefully it turns her up even.

[Anotherkiwi]

Hopefully it turns her up even.

Turns her up or turns her on? 

[mies]

I said to him:  "She is from Ukraine and needs this for some special holiday dish."

I often tell locals about specialty Ukrainian food. Must confess, I get extra kick when they get/look disgusted, for example when hearing about how pig's brain are sold and cooked 

As for "dirty fish" - tell this to people eating oysters and shrimps.

The bottom line - I would not be offended by the phrase like this one, but I may be offended by the tone it was said with.

The best apology would be the promise to eat the whole herring in public She will not believe in it, of course, but appreciate for sure. 
Herring was a trash fish in SU, actually, because it was the cheapest. Nevertheless, many FSUW like it, just like kids like the trash fast food from MacDonald.

It wasn't herring. Most likely it was Merluccius (frozen) and Carassius because they have inferior quality/taste of meat and were the cheapest. Herring wasn't a trash food, it is and was a staple and "must have", with wide range of prices depending on how fresh (not half-rotten)/tasty and fatty (the more fat the better) the cured herring was. 

I don't need to read further, you've insulted her to the extent it will never be forgotten, never. You may obtain something which vaguely resembles forgiveness but it will never be forgotten..........ever.

based on her reaction, I tend to agree. She may still remember it in 20 years. Moments like this are usually added to the "little black book" - the registry of insults, bad behavior, and "crimes."

[mies]

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[mies]

My Gal was interested in going to an Orthodox church today to 'get the water.'
(Last year she never mentioned  wanting to do this.)

I checked the phone book and there was only  one such church listed.

I called it and they told me they had celebrated the 'water day' a couple of weeks ago under the 'new calendar.'

I wanted to say:  "How  can you claim to be Orthodox, if you don't follow the Orthodox calendar?" . . . but I didn't.

Your gal was right, the local church was wrong. In Ukraine this holiday is celebrated on the 19th of January, and people go to the church "to get water" on the 19th. In my hometown you see the long queues of people lining outside of several churches. 
For educational purposes:

 - pay attention to the date this video was taken (probably in school it was on 18th because the 19th is the state holiday and school may be on recess), and the scenes from 3' 23"
That's what ML will need to do too, next year 

[ML]

One of my Gal's distant relatives recently got immigrant visa for Ireland along with wife and 10 year old son.

After first day of school, the son came home and exclaimed:  These girls are so ugly!

The parents told him when the time was ready, he could visit back in Ukraine and find a pretty gal.

[ML]

Today was semi-annual 'Health Fair' in town at the largest Mall.
Blood tests available for $30 with about 25 items tested which would cost around $300 if done individually at doctor's office.
Many free test such as blood pressure, EKGs, breathing, balance, check for skin cancers, etc.

Afterwards, we went for breakfast.

Gal said she was paying because it was Military Day or Man's Day.

I appreciated, even as I was on other side during 'Cold War.'

[ML]

There was recently a posting about a film clip of the Chinese gal coming to marry a WM.  I  wanted to put this in same thread, but couldn't find that thread, so I'm throwing this in here.

Just noticed in local paper that the University here is screening a film "In the Name of Love."

Apparently it won Best Documentary at some film festival.  Write-up says it looks at social, political, economic and demographic challenges facing RW today, which leads them to seek western men.

Don't know if this film is balanced; or will it just be another sensationalized film ridiculing MOB participants.

Anyone seen it ?