New question, sexual in nature.

[Turboguy]

And never once did I ask whether or not Russian are better in bed than the local women here. I have no idea where you got that.

Maybe here in your first post in the thread

I happen to be a very sexual person in nature. Please do not mistake this for a "man whore" or anything like that. I am very much a monogamous person. It's just that sex is very important to me in a relationship and I would hate to meet a woman who is seemingly "the one" only to find out that she isn't for me in bed. It worries me because I have had only one truly enjoyable sexual experience since being single. I really don't like that percentage.

I have to say that I thought that was pretty much what you were asking.  I had the thought that it's too bad our former member Pike/Albert wasn't around since he was the one with enough experience with RW (he claimed to have bedded around 165 of them at the last count I recall).  Most of us as Gator mentioned don't have enough experience to really know.

I do think that to some extent satisfactory sex is in the mind and for most if the woman is built well and you have an emotional commection, the odds of satisfactory sex are much better.   I have no idea if RW are better or worse than their American counterparts but I am quite certain that there is a big difference in body condition.  It may be in part because the walk more or it may be because of diet or genetics but the average RW is built far better than the average AW.  That I am totally conviced of.

[Daveman]

It seems you are misreading my statement. The secret to have great sex lies in emotional involvement, not in technical issues. Regardless of how many or which technical parts you mastered, without a relationship it is meaningless and you will not reach the 'mind blowing' level.

If there is emotional involvement, it becomes a natural thing to satisfy each other. Without that, its just going through the motions.

I agree with that to a large degree, but I would also add that a vivid imagination and sensitivity to the situation seem to be an integral factors in migrating from good sex to a truly mind blowing experience.  Some have those traits and some don't.. and I'm not so sure it's teachable/learnable...

[Turboguy]

I think there is a world of difference in what someone considers good sex and tend to agree with Shadow to a degree that when you really have great feelings for someone there won't be any problems with the sex.

However everyone is so different in what is great sex.  For one a woman who moans and screems may be the best sex of his life since she makes him feel like a stud who is driving her wild.  For others the noise might be distracting.

Some guys would love a woman who ripped the clothes off him, throws him on the bed, ties him to the bedpost, drips hot wax on his chest, squirts whipped cream on him then removes it one way or the other, drinks wine from his belly button and totally controls the situation.

Others might find far more satisifaction with someone submissive that lets him control the situation. 

Some just like to get it over and the faster the better.

Others like to go on for hours.

One persons mind blowing sex will be anothers so so sex but all in all the odds are if you really have an emotional attachement the sex will be great.

[wiz]

The ability to sexually satisfy a man is natural or normal for women and thus, the majority of women are able to perform that on a satisfactory level.

I peg to differ with your opinion "that is natural and normal for women to satisfy a man and the majority of them can perform at a satisfactory level!"

Many women have no idea what to do in bed apart from lying there being submissive and let him do all the action and if the man is selfish they get no satisfaction. But on the other hand, luckily most of them are fast learners and after a while perform to a satisfactory level.

Turbo

Some men like it very hot and with the emotional attachement the sex is always great

[ML]

It seems you are misreading my statement. The secret to have great sex lies in emotional involvement, not in technical issues. Regardless of how many or which technical parts you mastered, without a relationship it is meaningless and you will not reach the 'mind blowing' level.

If there is emotional involvement, it becomes a natural thing to satisfy each other. Without that, its just going through the motions.

. . .  if you really have an emotional attachement the sex will be great.

I must respectfully disagree with both of you gentlemen.

I was married for many years to a wonderful woman and we were very much in love with the highest level of emotional attachment possible, etc., etc.

However, the sex was not great, which I always suspected, and this was confirmed after I later came to enjoy mind blowing sex with women where no love or emotional attachment was present.

[Blues Fairy]

However, the sex was not great, which I always suspected, and this was confirmed after I later came to enjoy mind blowing sex with women where no love or emotional attachment was present.

Madonna vs. Whore complex?  

[groovlstk]

I must respectfully disagree with both of you gentlemen.

I was married for many years to a wonderful woman and we were very much in love with the highest level of emotional attachment possible, etc., etc.

However, the sex was not great, which I always suspected, and this was confirmed after I later came to enjoy mind blowing sex with women where no love or emotional attachment was present.

I'd agree w/ManLooking here. I know several RW in our area who are married to men they claim to love and respect, but who can't get the job done in the sack. They have lovers, of course, as the prospect of a life without good sex is unbearable.

[ML]

Madonna vs. Whore complex?  

I don't know exactly what this is.  Do I have to google it, or will somebody just tell me.

[Blues Fairy]

I don't know exactly what this is.  Do I have to google it, or will somebody just tell me.

Googling would have taken you less time than posting this question.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna%E2%80%93whore_complex

[ML]

Googling would have taken you less time than posting this question.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna%E2%80%93whore_complex

OK, I read about it.

And I can resoundly reject the Madonna - Whore complex in my situation with respect to all three female characters portrayed.  i.e. My mother,  my wife and the other ladies do not fit the profile at all.

[Gator]

A sample size of 30, would give you roughly an 18% margin of error...

I was thinking 25 would be reasonable sample.  While that was a good month with AW in the 1970s, I have a way to go with RW (and hope I never reach it). 

Statistics was never my forte, so I will not and can not debate your stochastic measures.  The 18% margin of error even with a sample population of 30 illustrates the fact that our individual knowledge is too little and the possible variability too large to draw sweeping conclusions.

[Gator]

I protect and defend not females but the conception that the majority of people are endowed with or have satisfactory mastered natural or normal abilities. The ability to sexually satisfy a man is natural or normal for women and thus, the majority of women are able to perform that on a satisfactory level. When a person raises an issue claiming that the majority is impaired in some way, I tend to assume that the claimer is the impaired one.

Brilliant!  Show-off.   

Fabio, you will discover with a number of RW that behind their beautiful facade lies a brilliant mind.

[Gator]

There have been plenty of responses from people who understand my question just fine.

I see responses all over the place:  get over your ex-wife, become more emotionally connected, develop a vivid imagination and sensitivity to the situation, most of them are fast learners and after a while perform to a satisfactory level, the majority of women are able to perform that on a satisfactory level, etc.

If you are that open to possible explanations, here is one from left field.  I have heard only one other man state that sex was not satisfying.  Actually, it was hearsay as conveyed to me by his ex-wife, whom I dated briefly this year.  She and her husband divorced when he decided to come out of the closet, something she did not suspect much less realize.

[Boethius]

I know a lot of gay men.  None ever had any good sex with women, so I doubt that's fabio's issue.   

[ML]

It worries me because I have had only one truly enjoyable sexual experience since being single.

. . . most of them are fast learners and after a while perform to a satisfactory level, the majority of women are able to perform that on a satisfactory level, etc.

If you are that open to possible explanations, here is one from left field.  I have heard only one other man state that sex was not satisfying.  

Are we just splitting hairs over semantics here?

The OP didn't say his women weren't able to perform 'satisfactory.'

Probably his 'truly enjoyable sexual experience' refers to something somewhat above the level of satisfactory.  He can elaborate if he wishes.

And for completeness, let me clarify that sex with my wife was satisfactory, in terms of it reached the appropriate conclusion for both parties.  But great or truly enjoyable or mind blowing; it was not.

[Gator]

Boethius,

So the fact that Fabio had one satisfying experience eliminates that possibility?

The AW divorced from her gay husband admitted that he had known for a long time but repressed it (which I find sad that he felt compelled to do this because of a mostly intolerant society).

With regard to our RWD member, I am bewildered by his selection of the name Fabio.  Maybe we should defer to Sculpto.    

I did say my explanation was from "left field,"  and I offered it only after being rebuked by Fabio when I was attempting to help him.  

No skin off my nose.

[Gator]

Are we just splitting hairs over semantics here?

Could be.  I asked Fabio if he would clarify, and he refused.  So plug into such an open ended question whatever you wish. 

Weird question by the OP.  Then again this place at times can seem tedious to me.

[BillyB]

Some guys would love a woman who ripped the clothes off him, throws him on the bed, ties him to the bedpost, drips hot wax on his chest, squirts whipped cream on him then removes it one way or the other, drinks wine from his belly button and totally controls the situation.

You just making a statement or giving a hint?  Your wife is reading this thread!

[Boethius]

Boethius,

So the fact that Fabio had one satisfying experience eliminates that possibility?

Pretty much.  The "tone" is not one of a gay man.  I know gay men who were married, and gay men who dated women.  The ones who were married found one woman they could "bear" to have sex with - not exciting, but just that they could manage to do it.  They have feelings for these women, just not sexual feelings.  And they all, every one, had (usually anonymous) sex with men.  The ones who dated women were denying the truth.  They usually admitted it in their thirties.

I had a high school friend who, when young, used to have a lot of anonymous sex with men in cars and parks.  He said the men were usually wearing wedding rings, and in cars, there often were child car seats in the back seat.  

The AW divorced from her gay husband admitted that he had known for a long time but repressed it (which I find sad that he felt compelled to do this because of a mostly intolerant society).

That's usually the case with gay men who are married.  They lead double lives, or lie to themselves.  Or both.

[groovlstk]

Weird question by the OP.  Then again this place at times can seem tedious to me.

Exactly. Fabio asked a coy, open-ended question and if there is misunderstanding it's the OP's fault, not those who responded.

[fabiodriven]

Exactly. Fabio asked a coy, open-ended question and if there is misunderstanding it's the OP's fault, not those who responded.

If they don't understand the question then there is no need to respond.

[fabiodriven]

So the fact that Fabio had one satisfying experience eliminates that possibility?

One satisfying sexual experience since being single. While married I had 6 years of mind-blowing sex that appears to have scarred me. Once you're used to having Filet Mignon every night it's tough to go back to hamburger.

[Boethius]

If they don't understand the question then there is no need to respond.

Or, as groov pointed out, you can write more clearly.  No one here is a mind reader.  So, cut out the passive-aggressive crap.

[Jack]

   Once you're used to having Filet Mignon every night it's tough to go back to hamburger.   

This is a very true statement, in my opinion. I don't know what percentage of men can, do or will agree with such.  But then as all men are different I expect that with some men all "dinners" will be filet mignon.   

I also saw something on this thread I think written by gator that I smiled at as it was something I could relate to. I'm not quoting exactly but something to the lines of the worse "dinner" I ever had was excellent.  I believe this could also be a true statement for many.

With regards to this hole process we must always remember that all men (and women) are going to be different.  What this forum brings to the table is the opportunity for all to express their own personal views, thus allowing others the free, unobstructed choice of information they can digest and hopefully allowing them to make their own best choices. 

[Gylden]

This is a very true statement, in my opinion. I don't know what percentage of men can, do or will agree with such.  But then as all men are different I expect that with some men all "dinners" will be filet mignon.   

I also saw something on this thread I think written by gator that I smiled at as it was something I could relate to. I'm not quoting exactly but something to the lines of the worse "dinner" I ever had was excellent.  I believe this could also be a true statement for many.

With regards to this hole process we must always remember that all men (and women) are going to be different.  What this forum brings to the table is the opportunity for all to express their own personal views, thus allowing others the free, unobstructed choice of information they can digest and hopefully allowing them to make their own best choices. 

Well said Jack!  I am 100% in agreement with this.